• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:44
CEST 06:44
KST 13:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)83ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo37Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Old Replays From 1.4.6 The future of the SC game model
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ProGamer Paychecks Story Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12398 users

Is SC2 Boring To Watch? - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 26 27 28 Next All
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
August 28 2010 19:55 GMT
#21
we're gonna see no toss after that >.<
hadoken5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
August 28 2010 19:55 GMT
#22
On August 29 2010 04:34 hadoken5 wrote:
I mean all it pretty much is now is Reapers into MMM against zerg and just straight to MM against Protoss. And all the other side desperately trying to counter it. I am just not getting to same level of excitement as I got during the King of the Beta tournament. It's really just about countering MMM. Even TvT is now only MMM with some vikings and banshees.

I even find Protoss boring now as all they do is try to counter MMM, they can't try anything creative as they will just get rolled over. Anyone else absolutely bored to death with this?

The only reason we have all these "new up and coming" Terran players that are beating pros is that MM(M) (with ghost! yes I have to mention that because if I don't I will get a million responses saying "against Protoss you need ghost... sometimes) is because it is so easy to do and so powerful and so EASY to do. Sure there are "tight" timings but it really doesn't take too long to figure them out and then just "skillfully" kite your opponent. A lot of people say that Terran is seen so much in tournaments because it is the most familiar race, however the ratio of NEW, PRO Terran players to Protoss/Zerg players in tournaments is astounding.

To close I just want to say that I KNOW that this is NOT the case on the KR servers. So is it just that on the KR servers they learned to counter it? Or is it that they just don't do it good enough? What you guys think

P.S not a balance issue, more of a strategy issue ITT

EDIT response:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 04:44 Rea-Rea wrote:
How to beat a terran going MMM against protoss...

Storm, collosi, stalkers, immortals. Storm is key.

The point here is not even how to beat MMM, its just that seeing MMM every single game of the tournament(since Terran plays in every single game) is getting boring.

HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
August 28 2010 19:55 GMT
#23
Huk vs Kiwi game three was pretty interesting as well, nice work Huk!
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
August 28 2010 19:56 GMT
#24
Personally I think its retarded that you have to get high templars or colossi to beat 2 units that you get out of a rax...
Apologize.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 28 2010 19:57 GMT
#25
were some good matches in there.


but overall i agree. hurr 4gate, duurrr MMM spam. well thats what ive been talking about in my map thread. thats what most of the maps promote. and now we get a patch that further promotes pure MMM play. yay.




but also we didnt have many tournaments since release. IEM was amazing. mlg is worse (but players are too on average). nothing terrible about beeing "the worst" out of 2 big tournaments.

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
August 28 2010 19:58 GMT
#26
I really get bored by watching MMM. In starcraft 1 I loved bratOK replays, in sc2 they are just boring for me. That's the reason I play mech against protoss.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 28 2010 19:58 GMT
#27
Sputty worded the OPbetter IMO.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
hadoken5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:08:33
August 28 2010 19:58 GMT
#28
On August 29 2010 04:56 Neo.NEt wrote:
Personally I think its retarded that you have to get high templars or colossi to beat 2 units that you get out of a rax...

Personally I think its retarded that as Zerg you have no way to win if the Terran does MMM properly.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
August 28 2010 19:58 GMT
#29
On August 29 2010 04:55 slained wrote:
we're gonna see no toss after that >.<



Yeah you totally called that one. Oh wait you're an idiot.
White-Ra fighting!
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
August 28 2010 19:59 GMT
#30
This was probably the most interesting tournament so far. The matches last night, specifically drewbie vs socke, were fantastic, and every match today was also great. Only the first few matches weren't interesting because they had random people due to open registration.

Saying that this is boring is like saying that Broodwar is boring because everyone opens the same. That isn't what either game is about.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 28 2010 19:59 GMT
#31
If you go into a stream with the attitude of "omg all these op strategies going to suck so much" then yeah, the games will suck. If you go into it with a "I cant wait to see these games!" attitude, then they're fun. Games are fine. You just have a sucky perception of them.
Life is Good.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
August 28 2010 20:01 GMT
#32
--- Nuked ---
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 28 2010 20:01 GMT
#33
Have you guys watched Masq vs Slush? Masq is like the definition of the typical Terran player who thinks he can roll any Zerg by making reapers. His control was so horrible I literally started cracking up in the middle of the stream. But it literally goes to show how many Terrans can get around by using these strong builds and completely rolling over inexperienced players, whereas when you actually run into a clear superior player you will have your ego stripped away and be completely humiliated. Bastards, eat it.
Cider
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
August 28 2010 20:02 GMT
#34
I agree with Alou. I really enjoyed the games. The PvPs are pretty interesting.
You can't spell Courage without Rage
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
August 28 2010 20:02 GMT
#35
its pretty good, but I'd like to see more of the players and crowd. Interviews and stuff
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
August 28 2010 20:03 GMT
#36
it's not the final finals....
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
August 28 2010 20:04 GMT
#37
On August 29 2010 04:58 hadoken5 wrote:

Personally I think that as Zerg you have no way to win if the Terran does MMM properly.

I hope you are kidding. Fungal growth and banelings would like to have a word with you...
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 28 2010 20:04 GMT
#38
On August 29 2010 05:01 Snuggles wrote:
Have you guys watched Masq vs Slush? Masq is like the definition of the typical Terran player who thinks he can roll any Zerg by making reapers. His control was so horrible I literally started cracking up in the middle of the stream. But it literally goes to show how many Terrans can get around by using these strong builds and completely rolling over inexperienced players, whereas when you actually run into a clear superior player you will have your ego stripped away and be completely humiliated. Bastards, eat it.


Masq is a great player. It was probably nerves. It doesn't help that Slush played perfectly either. Terrans aren't just laughing their way to the podium because of easy strategies, because if you haven't noticed, all top 3 are Protoss.
Life is Good.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 28 2010 20:05 GMT
#39
I don't find it boring really. Game's still fun to watch. Just not as fun to watch as pro BW.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Dougz_G
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom3 Posts
August 28 2010 20:05 GMT
#40
i'm really losing interest aswell, no zerg has made it so boring. now we've got PvP mirror matches for the finals, i may not even continue till the end..=\
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 26 27 28 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
02:00
S6 Americas Server Qualifier
CranKy Ducklings200
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft597
RuFF_SC2 227
NeuroSwarm 164
ProTech140
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3268
Rain 2697
Shuttle 388
Snow 100
Mind 86
ggaemo 58
Noble 20
Bale 19
Purpose 8
Icarus 6
League of Legends
JimRising 957
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King78
Other Games
summit1g15592
m0e_tv282
Maynarde162
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick796
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 60
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP30
• Mapu19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1360
• Rush567
• Stunt259
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
6h 16m
RSL Revival
1d 5h
RSL Revival
1d 12h
Bombastic Starleague
1d 15h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.