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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 28 2010 07:49 GMT
#41
Never offensive GG

unless they have just floated all their buildings to the corner of the map.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 07:54:00
August 28 2010 07:50 GMT
#42
On August 28 2010 16:11 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 16:10 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I GG before my opponents on the ladder often because of how late some gg's occur. I never mean it as an insult, but when I have a sinking suspicion they're not gonna' gg or the game is going to end very shortly (and i mean like, I'm in their base and they have no army) then I do it as a slight nudge for them to leave, but also I usually mean it (well, as much as you can in a random game).

People are going to take that the wrong way for sure.... it sounds like you mean:

"haha you suck now say gg and get out you noob"


I'm aware how some people perceive it, but I figure with how late I gg they're either not going to say it or they're basically being BM anyways for not gg'ing early. It's not like once I think the game is mine I type it out. More often than not an opponent will leave or they'll do a gg, but I should say that I do it whereas in BW I never felt I had to.

edit: I also will once again reiterate a point that the SC community really needs thicker skin about these to the point that it shouldn't even be talked about. Too much time watching the korean scene (which I am obviously guilty of as well) has led us to think anything typed other than gg, gl, hf is basically bm.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
makoplux
Profile Joined April 2010
88 Posts
August 28 2010 07:52 GMT
#43
I once got pre-gg'd by someone and came back. Well... he said "you can gg whenever you want" about 20 minutes later i survived a huge fight (my marine viking vs. his viking battlecruiser) with only 6 marines left. I used that small victory to get a force of about 20 marines to end a 45 minute game. The guy then said "you're a joke bro" and "I had this game easy" before leaving.

I've seen him posting on TL forums too but I dont care enough to call him out or anything.
who is john galt?
leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
August 28 2010 07:53 GMT
#44
I only offensive GG when it's OVER and they won't leave. But that's not premature, it's saying quit wasting our time.

However, there is nothing better than a premature offensive GG against me. That just fires me up so much, and I don't say anything until my own offensive "gg" at the end.
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
August 28 2010 07:56 GMT
#45
In a game like SC, i'd say no. However, in games like DotA and what not, its actually quite neutral near the end of the game, since its very obviously who's going to lose/win. In fact, i kind of take it as good mannered when people take the time to say GG while they're destroying the final remnants of my base, since i'm always under the assumption that my opponents (and sometimes teammates) in such games are complete trolls.

Just a thought
JF dodger since 2009
Iscariott
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17 Posts
August 28 2010 07:56 GMT
#46
On August 28 2010 16:18 Apollys wrote:
Oh you mean offensive GG. I thought you just mean leaving when the game wasn't really decided yet.
Yeah offensive gg is like one of the most bm things ever, makes me want to ... never mind


Why get so heated about it? Either you've really already lost and are being a bit of a dick for dragging the game out. Or the guy is off his rocker and you're planning a comeback. Either way there's no need to get upset about it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 28 2010 07:57 GMT
#47
It makes you a faggot
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 28 2010 07:58 GMT
#48
Never prematurely gg. If It looks like its totally lights out and it really was a good game, say "wp" or something other than "gg". Maybe even expand and commend him on something he did, what made the game so good. If you roll into his base all high and mighty and you come and say "gg" it comes off as arrogance.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
August 28 2010 08:03 GMT
#49
Thats just the most BM someone can ever get on me.

I don't care for anything else, call me names, block my expansions with pylons and barracks for all I care. But you don't GG until the opponent has forfeited. It really gets my blood boiling.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 08:08:07
August 28 2010 08:07 GMT
#50
Well it's always bad mannered, but some faggots deserve it imo.

I had a protoss on caverns proxy 4gates, hide a pylon in my main; I fought off his units while taking down the pylon, and then counter attacked him. He makes cannons while stalling with sentry, so I sit back and macro up, securing my nat. He starts attacking me with dts so I pull all my units back to my base and fend off the dts with my new units/turrets. My raven came out not long later since I sort of anticipated dt, and then I make a banshee to scout/harass with. It scouts that he proxied 4 more gates and his dt tech rofl. So I kill that shit and attack again, with a fairly large army. So he's still stuck in his main, and makes a bunch of pylons and cannons, with like 8 sentry constantly making fields on his ramp. So I say "can you please just leave" which is basically same thing as offensive gg imo. I feel I was 100% justified in this situation ~~
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Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 08:17:53
August 28 2010 08:09 GMT
#51
Offensive "GG" is so fucking bad manner. If your opponent hasn't wronged you in any way, there's no excuse for offensive GG. Even if you're that kid on the first page who likes to "tell his opponents that its been a good game" regardless of who wins... For one, don't just say "GG" and expect them to magically know that you're one of those guys that likes to take a break and comment on how stellar you think their play is. You should be focusing all your attention and energy on defeating your opponent until that GG comes out. hence, dont fucking offensive "GG." just end the game.

However, after you've been BM'd or they're hiding buildings with no chance of comeback, i suppose it's okay as your opponent really opened the door by not quitting after you buttfuck them.

On August 28 2010 16:56 Iscariott wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 16:18 Apollys wrote:
Oh you mean offensive GG. I thought you just mean leaving when the game wasn't really decided yet.
Yeah offensive gg is like one of the most bm things ever, makes me want to ... never mind


Why get so heated about it? Either you've really already lost and are being a bit of a dick for dragging the game out. Or the guy is off his rocker and you're planning a comeback. Either way there's no need to get upset about it.


No. It's up to the loser to leave the game. If he wants to stay as you take 4 bases and a-move BCs through his base, well fuck him, but offensive GG is one of the best things to get upset about in this game. A lot moreso than terran.
Speak the word...
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 28 2010 08:23 GMT
#52
On August 28 2010 17:09 Ry-Masta-T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 16:56 Iscariott wrote:
On August 28 2010 16:18 Apollys wrote:
Oh you mean offensive GG. I thought you just mean leaving when the game wasn't really decided yet.
Yeah offensive gg is like one of the most bm things ever, makes me want to ... never mind


Why get so heated about it? Either you've really already lost and are being a bit of a dick for dragging the game out. Or the guy is off his rocker and you're planning a comeback. Either way there's no need to get upset about it.


No. It's up to the loser to leave the game. If he wants to stay as you take 4 bases and a-move BCs through his base, well fuck him, but offensive GG is one of the best things to get upset about in this game. A lot moreso than terran.


I want to point that this is terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible. If it is 100% clearly over and all you're doing is wasting your opponents time, then you're the asshole, not the person who says GG.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 28 2010 08:24 GMT
#53
On August 28 2010 16:53 leve15 wrote:
I only offensive GG when it's OVER and they won't leave. But that's not premature, it's saying quit wasting our time.

However, there is nothing better than a premature offensive GG against me. That just fires me up so much, and I don't say anything until my own offensive "gg" at the end.



Yea, but you dont know if it's over, i've had plenty of custom games where after killing my main base, my opponent says "you lost" then leaves the game, when infact i had a huge army about to engage him for one last fight.

Just never GG if you're winning.

Also, i've had a game once where i GG'ed (i was losing) and the other guy goes "you're a faggot" then he leaves
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
August 28 2010 08:32 GMT
#54
I think 'offensive' gg is fine, in the unusual case where you're about to destroy the bad guy's last lousy building and you feel the need to say it before the game ends from natural causes anyways. Offensive gg as a way of pleading with the bad guy to quit is just obnoxious.

Of course if you're killing the last base because the bad guy was bm and refusing to leave (rather than because it was a close base-trade type game, or the bad guy was too noob to surrender), you might feel disinclined to give out a gg.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 08:41:11
August 28 2010 08:39 GMT
#55
Jaedong vs Flash Game 3 MSL Hana Daetoo

Flash is basically doing it when he sieges the ramp vs jaedong. Takes his hands off keyboard, lowers head.

PS- In bw, in a lagless game there is this slight delay the moment a player is about to leave the game. I was always pretty clutch about slipping in the gg before they left the game.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
nybbas
Profile Joined April 2010
United States71 Posts
August 28 2010 08:39 GMT
#56
Wouldn't talking shit to the person you are beating when they GG first be considered worst?

Say I am getting my ass kicked and I GG, and he says NOT REALLY SCRUB... For some reason I am always paranoid about this and dont want to give assholes a chance to do it, so I just quit without saying anything... or if I GG I quit out of the game as fast as possible...

As soon as I learned that we were all so offended by offensive GG's I stopped doing it, I used to do it when I was in the middle of their base with said 20 bc's (just to give an example, I don't even play as terran) finishing off his buildings. But I did this due to my stupid fear of people BM'ing me... as much as I tell myself people who talk shit when I lose don't but me, they really do hahaha. So I kind of figured I was doing the guy a favor by being like "hey man, sure I kicked your ass and got 20 bc's in your base, but still good game" and didn't see it as a "haha GG FAG U SUX!"

I think if there are offensive GG's being thrown out, most people using them don't realize how BM it is, and think they are being friendly by saying it, when in reality they are being a-holes and not even realizing it. When I BM someone who cheesed me, or is trying to drag the game out with pylons etc. I will talk trash to them, not just say "gg" (now that I think of it, I wonder how many people back then in beta were doing this to me because of the offensive gg?! awww.)
Toxiferous
Profile Joined June 2009
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 08:45:10
August 28 2010 08:44 GMT
#57
oops doublepost
Toxiferous
Profile Joined June 2009
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 08:45:59
August 28 2010 08:44 GMT
#58
oops triple post wtf is wrong with me

How do you delete post v.v
Toxiferous
Profile Joined June 2009
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 08:46:13
August 28 2010 08:45 GMT
#59
On August 28 2010 15:48 Supafly wrote:


I'm guilty of GGing prematurely because I thought they were on the verge of leaving without a word.


Thats a ridiculous rationalization to constitute bm.

Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
August 28 2010 08:45 GMT
#60
Always depends on the situation. Most situations won't warrant it, but if an opponent has been super BM and you manage to get a hold of the win I don't see anything wrong with the good ol' Offensive GG.

gg
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