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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
Day9 and JP had the most amazing game analysis. | ||
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Adsee
United States221 Posts
On August 28 2010 14:04 Darkside- wrote: It's a feedback thread on the casting, not a compliments thread. If we don't tell them what they did wrong in addition to what we liked, how are they every going to improve? I agree with this, but still, the amount of crap these two guys get for casting is ridiculous, and the fact that most of it is just nonconstructive insults (like the comment below you) is really unfair to them. While Day9 is definitely a better caster than either HD or Husky, the fact is he has a lot more experience then them in the SC community. Both of them work hard at what they do, and, as time goes by, they will get better. | ||
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SeaSmoke
United States326 Posts
A previous post had it right though, HD and Huskey are to me the "play by play" guys and Day9 and JP should be analysts. Sometimes Day9 and JP have too much knowledge and step on eachother while their speaking too. Do I think they're going to be the best? No, they're one of the first mainstream duo's EVER...just chill and have fun with the casts. | ||
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nglt
United States187 Posts
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BeefAvenger
Canada54 Posts
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
Honestly though they are average/bland at casting. I hope people don't take this as some sacred ground, it's opinion and they already have large enough subscribers it doesn't matter what people think their casting is, they will still be invited to events etc for pure marketing reasons and that's fine, good for them. Honestly though I would rather do without having MLG use them, but for the growth of SC2 it's good. But every minute of watching MLG just makes me pray GSL arrives and artosis/tasteless can start casting. I am not saying they are horrible, or bad, it's just my preference in casting is more tasteless/artosis/rise favored. Heck I like Klazart (mainly because he live casted a lot of SC1 and is a savior fan  We all have different tastes/preferences. GSL come sooner  | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On August 28 2010 14:04 Darkside- wrote: It's a feedback thread on the casting, not a compliments thread. If we don't tell them what they did wrong in addition to what we liked, how are they every going to improve? Perhaps just focusing on providing constructive feedback rather than simply pointing out the mistakes would be more useful. I'm not saying you did it, but a few of the other commenters simply complained rather than provide feedback. I thought all four casters did a good job, but I think that HD and Husky both need to work on some things. HD needs to follow the bases a bit more and look at the minimap more regularly. He occasionally makes predictions that are obviously wrong if you look at the players' bases or the minimap. If he fixes that, I think he has a good voice for casting and does a good job at giving play by plays. Husky needs to end sentences. I think that's why he is unable to give that many strategic insights: any insight he has gets overpowered by his stream of consciousness commentating. I remember a specific example where he was commenting on banshees being a good early game counter to tanks, but instead of going into why that would benefit Gretorp (for example, apply pressure while expanding), he saw Silver's marauders and commented that they were also being good against tanks. While both these things were true, neither player had tanks on the map or were in the process of getting tanks so the comments didn't add anything to the game. Husky does that very often: He starts a thought and continues linking that thought to whatever occurs on the screen. That style is great for exciting battles, but not so good for providing strategic insight. So I would suggest that he tries to focus on making fewer but more cohesive points when he commentates the less exciting parts of the game. As has been said, Day and JP really commentate well together. Perhaps it's because they've casted things before (as I understand it), but unlike the casting at IEM, Day and JP are not talking over eachother. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
day9 and jp are great commentators with good analysis on the game. I like HD and husky since they are entertaining and they both have the "radio voice" or "commentating voice". They may not be as knowledgeable as day9, but I give them credit for trying at least. Obviously day9, tasteless, or artosis are great commentators because they've been playing SC:BW for years. Although SC2 is a different game, it isn't a 100% completely different game, so some things are easily carried over. | ||
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jamesltl
Malaysia159 Posts
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
I like Day[9] and jp and HD and Husky. You can too. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
On August 28 2010 14:17 SeaSmoke wrote: Criticism is fine, but don't take it so far guys. Everyone hating on HDH is doing the same thing people who watch every single sporting event on television do...complain about the broadcasters. When a play by play guy makes a mistake and calls the name of the starting running back when actually the back up had gone in on that particular play, you just make fun of him a little and that's it. When HDH make a bad call, everyone immediately goes berserk and calls for them to be banned from casting. A previous post had it right though, HD and Huskey are to me the "play by play" guys and Day9 and JP should be analysts. Sometimes Day9 and JP have too much knowledge and step on eachother while their speaking too. Do I think they're going to be the best? No, they're one of the first mainstream duo's EVER...just chill and have fun with the casts. I think it's dumb to harp over them making bad calls in games, because really any commentator does that. It's the annoying habits like horrible opening and closing phrases ("seeee you guysth next time!!!!!") and forcing in awkward wording everywhere just to try and sound smarter than you are while tripping over easy sentences (HD). Things like those can and should be fixed, if you want to improve and be taken seriously when you talk. I know it's hard to break bad habits, but as a pro SC fan, I'd be happy of they'd at least try a little bit so we don't have to turn down the volume whenever that duo comes on. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On August 28 2010 14:22 zoLo wrote: Haters gonna hate. day9 and jp are great commentators with good analysis on the game. I like HD and husky since they are entertaining and they both have the "radio voice" or "commentating voice". They may not be as knowledgeable as day9, but I give them credit for trying at least. Obviously day9, tasteless, or artosis are great commentators because they've been playing SC:BW for years. Although SC2 is a different game, it isn't a 100% completely different game, so some things are easily carried over. I don't think you get it. It's also personality. I can go to somethingawful/non teamliquid sites and probably around here and find people that don't like tasteless, day9, etc. It happens, it's just people's preferences. I could list more clearly but it would be entirely due to my preferences The things I don't like about day9 commentary are what a ton of people like about it. On the other hand though HDH are just "weaker" casters in general and honestly are much better at marketing themselves / getting subscribers. Which is not a bad thing and an entirely valid reason to be there and have success. They put in good work in getting to those points and had good plans / played beta hype correctly. | ||
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BattleSheen
United States58 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
Exaggeration and hyperbole are fun but the best commentators - in sports and otherwise - strive for accuracy with entertainment. There is not brilliance and perfection in every StarCraft 2 game but how often do we hear words like that? There's really, really not cause for yelling and screaming in most SC2 games and yet people keep raising their voices during every single game. Save the bursts of energy for times when they are truly warranted. It fizzles quickly when you overuse it. Your words become meaningless and your screams become annoying if you go from 0 to 10 in every game. That said, I enjoyed this for the most part! | ||
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Surrealz
United States449 Posts
There are a crapload of wayyyy better community casters, but they aren't chosen for this big event because they aren't partners with youtube and crap like that (HD and Husky are). To be honest I mute HDH when I'm watching a game they are casting. Its seriously useless. They have a crapload of undeserved fame and I really feel sorry for the GOOD casters getting less respect and views than them. | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
I greatly enjoyed watching both sets of casters and look forward to day 2. | ||
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clik
United States319 Posts
Basically the problem with HDH is both of them are just playbyplay commentators. They cancel each other out and bore people. Pair one of them with someone like Day9 and it will be much better. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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