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On August 29 2010 09:11 RyanS wrote:
My criticism is of day9 and JP. They are always pointing out tiny player mistakes, which I think is wrong to do. "The pool was put down at 235 minerals, little bit of a blunder." "The factory was late." To me that is like saying, "Our tournament has lesser caliber players with unrefined and sloppy play." Definitely the wrong message to send.
The adoption of the word blunder by all English commentators is pretty tiresome as well. It is said too often. I usually associate this word to mean a huge mistake. I'm not sure if that is the fully correct meaning, but hearing "a little bit of a blunder" when an SCV arrives 10 minerals late to build a supply depot it just sounds completely wrong to me.
Those are pretty big errors relatively speaking to higher level players.
If you are playing at the highest levels those tiny mistakes do have noticeable effects on games. For example a slightly late pool can get you killed in a rush situation. Just look at LzGamer's vs Incontrol G2 where Lz pretty much had the game won but got tanks slightly late and lost or the or LzGamer vs Incontrol G3* where Lz was less than 5 seconds late on Stim.
*May have been CathonLuck vs Huk
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basically, day9 plays A LOT, which makes him such an excellent commentator... But can we expect this from all the commentators? Especially with a game this young?
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I thought they did a pretty good job, I watched as much of the tournament as I could.
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On August 29 2010 11:27 kickinhead wrote:
basically, day9 plays A LOT, which makes him such an excellent commentator... But can we expect this from all the commentators? Especially with a game this young?
It's a preference thing. Do you want a commentator that knows what the hell is going on? HD himself even admitted that he only plays one ladder game a week. That's just not good enough, IMO. Actually, I'd love to have Day9 cast with another top top pro player just to get more insight. JP is humorous and exuberant and brings out the funny while doing most of the play by play.
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they just need to convince husky that NEVER shutting up is bad. That guy talks from 5 minutes before the game til 10 minutes after the game without taking a breath. He comes off as obnoxious. Nobody is going to rival day9 on knowledge of the pro game, but they should at least work on not being annoying.
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Day9, HD, and Husky all do great jobs in my book.
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I have never really been a fan of Day9's SC2 commentary. SC2 isn't a complicated game and in depth analysis is pretty much pointless. I did however like his SC1 commentaries. It helped me understand the reasoning for Pro gamer strategies.
For example, I always thought it was stupid not to get fast reavers for PvP but I remember there was one game casted by Day9 that explained the reasoning, which is that if a player is weaker with reavers, a fast range into early expo opening can put you into a good position vs reaver openings. That depth just doesn't exist in SC2 and I feel that Day9 overanalyzes SC2 to the point where its frustrating.
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On August 29 2010 11:59 hacpee wrote:
That depth just doesn't exist in SC2
People will find out depth like that later.
I mean.. SC2 is out for only one month. Don"t forget that.
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To me this tourney proved HD has no place next to Day9, JP, or Husky.
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I got introduced to teamliquid and the whole sc2 scene with the help of HD and Husy and for that I thank them. But as I got more and more into starcraft the more I drifted from watching their vids. HD and Husky just aren't as entertaining or informative as Day[9] is.
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On August 29 2010 12:33 SentrySteve wrote:
To me this tourney proved HD has no place next to Day9, JP, or Husky.
i think hd is the best co caster in that he always stays calm, and gives good straight points and builds off the others sometimes. but day 9 vs husky is really a preference thing, both are funny and have pros and cons. husky makes battles fucking insane and i love his humor. but sometimes he talks over the other commentators. day 9 is also funny and laid back, and gives good insight at the right times, but he really cant make the big battles as entertaining as the others.
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On August 29 2010 12:02 Noocta wrote:People will find out depth like that later. I mean.. SC2 is out for only one month. Don"t forget that.
Day9, HD, Husky, and a ton of others have been casting the game for like a year.
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On August 29 2010 09:11 RyanS wrote:
My criticism is of day9 and JP. They are always pointing out tiny player mistakes, which I think is wrong to do. "The pool was put down at 235 minerals, little bit of a blunder." "The factory was late." To me that is like saying, "Our tournament has lesser caliber players with unrefined and sloppy play." Definitely the wrong message to send.
No, it's like saying 'these players are making mistakes that could easily cost them the game' because it really could. Really if you don't understand how big of an impact these little errors can have you shouldn't be criticising!
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HD is an ok co-caster.
He has the voice but little knowledge. Because he only points out the obvious, he'll get muted by most top players.
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On August 29 2010 02:40 Gentso wrote:
Casters in order from best to worst
1) Day9
2) Husky
3) HD
4) JP
HD better than JP? haha
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I've never been a fan of Husky and HD personally. Their commentaries are definitely not top level commentaries has it has been pointed out, and the form of excitement they bring to their casting is non-contagious. Also their flow was off and they didn't seem to be working too well as a duo, but that could have just been the nerves. They are tolerable though, and I still did enjoy the matches they casted, which I feel is an important point, I just didn't enjoy them as much as I believe a different caster would enable me to.
On the other hand, I love Day[9], he even taught me a build order to use with the ladies. 8 Dinner 10 Movie 12 Move in for the kiss, and if that fails then you try to get back into the game through harassment, it's genius.
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HD did a better job today when he was casting with Day, imho.
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I think they all did a good job but you could notice that HD and husky were new to this. I think they got valuable experience that they will use at future events.
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On August 29 2010 11:59 hacpee wrote:
SC2 isn't a complicated game and in depth analysis is pretty much pointless ...That depth just doesn't exist in SC2 and I feel that Day9 overanalyzes SC2 to the point where its frustrating.
What are you on? Of course SC2 has depth. Saying that it's currently shallower than BW might be fair but saying it "isn't a complicated game" and "depth doesn't exist" is just wrong.
I enjoyed all the commentators tbh. They all have their strengths and I enjoyed Husky & HD's enthusiasm and style.
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On August 29 2010 12:33 SentrySteve wrote:
To me this tourney proved HD has no place next to Day9, JP, or Husky.
HD is one of the few guys who can compete with commentators from other e-sports, play by play wise.
Day needs to stop casting as much as he does he gets so annoying, because he simply burns out himself as a caster he jsut says the same things a million times per broadcast.
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