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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
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Darkside-
United States52 Posts
On August 29 2010 07:18 Darksoldierr wrote: i think all the commentators was great, even in "mixed" combo HD and Husky both got a LOT better when paired up with Day9. He was able to provide the strategy analysis while they could do playbyplay and hype. I wouldn't mind at all if that's what happened in the future; they only seemed to suffer when paired together. | ||
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Twe3k
89 Posts
Day[9] all the way. JP, needs to be replaced imo. Husky needs to Look the part. Casters shouldn't look like 14 year old kids who rolled out of bed to come to a starcraft tournament. and HD needs to play the game more than once a week so that he knows what he is talking about. | ||
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Chewie
Denmark708 Posts
Please don't be concerned with it. And I don't agree with a lot of the stuff people complain about here. I think you have great game understanding and entertaining commentary. You're a great team that compliment each other well. Keep it up, you'll just get better. | ||
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Jhax
Ireland201 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
I think the real morale of this event is that X + Day[9] = awesome where X = Anything. I'm sure if you put a box turtle next to him, it would be fun to watch. | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On August 29 2010 07:53 Antisocialmunky wrote: JP was quite quiet. I think he is a better host than a commentator. However when he does talk, it makes sense, he's just doesn't have the volume or energy of a shoutcaster. I don't really mind. I think the real morale of this event is that X + Day[9] = awesome where X = Anything. I'm sure if you put a box turtle next to him, it would be fun to watch. JP doesnt have enough "Sauce" ;P. on a more serious note i thought everyone did great, and they will only get better. | ||
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Yurie
11923 Posts
The commenting made some dull games worth watching while still keeping up my interest. Thanks for an excellent service.  | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
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PuZzLE.LoKo
United States47 Posts
Still, I don't think Husky brought anything special to the casts at all. HD, JP, and Day9 seemed much more familiar with the game and with the players that they were commentating on. Also, Husky was by far the most unprofessional looking. He appeared to have just gotten out of bed. In general, I'd like to see all of the casters put just a bit more effort into looking more professional when they cast. After all, they are representing a lot more than just themselves when they cast. Day9 and HD did the best imho. I'd really like to see JP and Husky make more of an effort to get to know the players they cast. Day9 and HD seem like they know most of the players and their play styles personally. | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
The adoption of the word blunder by all English commentators is pretty tiresome as well. It is said too often. I usually associate this word to mean a huge mistake. I'm not sure if that is the fully correct meaning, but hearing "a little bit of a blunder" when an SCV arrives 10 minerals late to build a supply depot it just sounds completely wrong to me. | ||
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Rashia
Sweden68 Posts
It might have been intended by Huk, but then It was a really bad move, as it ended him losing way to many units. And sometimes they predict one thing, and It ends up pretty much the opposite of what they predicted , they become stunned, which makes em look pretty stupid. Guess they have to look and play more games, so they can get a better feeling of the flow of the game. Sean and JP do the normal routine, good as always. Edit: Ohh I forgot.. Husky looked like a hobo! god dammit buy a cheap suit jacket, and get a haircut. | ||
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Fadetowhite
Korea (South)302 Posts
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leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
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zTz
United States476 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + sarcasm... | ||
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Mylin
Sweden177 Posts
Don't get me wrong difference between the games is that the general understanding of SC2 as a game is still very poor (from pros to casters like Day9) and about 90% of gameplay is just applied BW knowledge. As such casting becomes a bit difficult when you can't say for sure how certain things are even though you have a decent idea. My whole point here is that the longer SC2 is played the harder its gonna be to cast games and this is where I think casters like HD and Husky simply won't cut it anymore. However casters like Day9 are just gonna stand out even more cause even though he might not be able to play the game like a pro I have no doubt he'll be able to understand it just as well and thats when his casting is gonna start to shine for real (just as it did in BW). | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
Caster tournaments let the best caster win casted by idra | ||
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Kishkumen
United States650 Posts
On August 29 2010 09:11 RyanS wrote: My criticism is of day9 and JP. They are always pointing out tiny player mistakes, which I think is wrong to do. "The pool was put down at 235 minerals, little bit of a blunder." "The factory was late." To me that is like saying, "Our tournament has lesser caliber players with unrefined and sloppy play." Definitely the wrong message to send. The adoption of the word blunder by all English commentators is pretty tiresome as well. It is said too often. I usually associate this word to mean a huge mistake. I'm not sure if that is the fully correct meaning, but hearing "a little bit of a blunder" when an SCV arrives 10 minerals late to build a supply depot it just sounds completely wrong to me. Those tiny mistakes they point out can have a significant effect on the game. Would you rather they just ignore them and then look mystified when someone misses a timing or doesn't have enough units to attack/defend? It's like a missed shot in basketball. I don't think anyone says, "Man, these NBA players are awful at basketball" when the commentators point out that they miss a shot. | ||
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Shakes
Australia557 Posts
HD & Husky looked pretty awkward in front of the camera, especially when things were a little messed up, but I've seen profession TV presenters struggle with that (infamous Bill O'Reilly autocue tantrum anyone?) so it's something they'll get used to. As far as the commentary itself goes, I think the big thing they can learn from Day9 is just staying calm and keeping things understated. They are both a bit too excitable, which isn't so bad for one guy on a youtube video, but when you have the two of them, it doesn't really play off each other well. If you're going to have two over the top commentators you really need them to be two that disagree with each other so you can have them trying to one up each other with more and more ridiculous statements then get a good laugh at the end when one shows themselves to be completely wrong. People have talked about play by play and analysis, but one thing I think is missing from the commentary and hasn't been talked about much is the role commentators should play in explaining the game state. Day9 does this really well in his daily shows, he'll pause and say something like "Wow, player A has 20 more food already than player B, that's such an advantage to just have more stuff" but in his live commentaries where he can't pause the game even he seems to neglect this. Really wish commentators would focus on that a bit more, we can see that someone is walking their stalkers and zealots towards the enemy base, would be nice to know how many units to expect to be there once they arrive. Explaining the game state is a huge part of most sports commentaries (eg how often in basketball do you hear "Bulls are on a 10-2 run the last 3:30" or "Kobe Bryant with 8-13 shooting tonight after that made basket") yet it's really not done nearly enough in the SC2 commentaries I've heard to give a good sense of the big picture. | ||
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proxY_
United States1561 Posts
Honestly, Day9 with another pro like Gretorp is probably the best I've heard. Day9 by himself is incredible but I think 2 people is usually more interesting than one. | ||
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