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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:34 Batch wrote:5 second zealot build time nerf is a 5 second zealot build time nerf and nothing else, don't try to exaggerate the change. An attack with 12 zealots, 12 stalkers and 6 sentries built from 4 gateways will be delayed by 15 in game seconds. It is a change that changes some push timings but it will not completely ruin protoss as some people tries to claime. all zealots is 5 sec slower so it wont be only 15 sec delay its will be 1minute ingame | ||
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Tiax;mous
669 Posts
On September 07 2010 04:26 KhAlleB wrote: all zealots is 5 sec slower so it wont be only 15 sec delay its will be 1minute ingame ehm no , it'll be 15 seconds , 4 gateways = 4 zealots at a time = 5 seconds delay 12 zealots = 15 second delay still i believe 15 second is big and will hurt Protoss pretty bad. i don't understand why can't Blizz simply make bigger maps to help Zerg early defence instead of tweaking little details , seconds etc. Lazy Blizzard lazy | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On September 07 2010 04:30 Tiax;mous wrote: ehm no , it'll be 15 seconds , 4 gateways = 4 zealots at a time = 5 seconds delay 12 zealots = 15 second delay still i believe 15 second is big and will hurt Protoss pretty bad oops i forgot this variable | ||
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Hunch
Canada336 Posts
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mierin
United States4946 Posts
On September 07 2010 04:20 JudoChopper wrote: Marauders ARE nerfed in single player, they don't have stim... I hadn't thought about that, apparently too OP for single player, but fair game multi. | ||
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Aikin
Austria532 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 07 2010 04:34 mierin wrote: I hadn't thought about that, apparently too OP for single player, but fair game multi. Marauder Concussive Shells also apply an AoE slow in single-player. THAT would be extremely OP in multiplayer. | ||
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dump
Japan514 Posts
do they use marauders less? | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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ArYeS
Slovenia268 Posts
On September 07 2010 08:41 hifriend wrote: When they say "increased from 33 to 38", don't they mean 5 seconds in normal speed? i.e. quite a bit less in fastest? Everything is in in-game timing, that means 5s on "normal" speed. | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong748 Posts
but man I'm so frustrated that there probably isn't going to be any changes done to the marauders anytime soon.. even though they've been broken since beta.. makes me want to smash the keyboard :p | ||
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mierin
United States4946 Posts
On September 07 2010 08:39 dump wrote: i wonder what the situation's like in korea? do they use marauders less? I've been watching the GomTV stuff, and aside from AugustWeRRa (epic BC play), I can't recall a game where marauder wasn't at the core of an army. EDIT: ...and even he had plenty of marauders :\ | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
I've just logged into my EU B.net account and it says a downtime tomorrow but apparently just for 30 min or so. Edit: Now with a screenshot http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4898/screenshot2010090712495.jpg | ||
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
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dump
Japan514 Posts
both in terms of using them and in fending them off, higher damage and lower health means that you need better control. it makes the game that much more decisive and that much more fun to watch. one thing i love doing is dropping cheap units into the mineral line and letting tanks blow up their own scvs. can't do that if the damage is reduced. it just kills the friendly fire aspect of the tank metagame, which is what made it so risky and fun to use in brood war. instead of improving their tank skills, people are just going to resort to other units, like (oh god not again) marauders. | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On September 07 2010 05:15 TheYango wrote: Marauder Concussive Shells also apply an AoE slow in single-player. THAT would be extremely OP in multiplayer. I'd rather the Marauder has AOE slow like in multiplayer rather than stim. That's what makes it too OP imo. You'll never be able to run away from a Marauder army with stim. As of now, Marauders can be used as tanking units, DPS dealer to Armour as well as chasing down fleeing army. It does it well at all of these roles. It even has a relatively long range too. | ||
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