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Katkishka
United States658 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:50 OhJesusWOW wrote: Nope. We'll just see some different strategies from Terran...finally. Like what? Pure bio? Tanks are still the most solid solution to banelings, but since.. A) zergs know how to handle thors with mutas now B) marines are bio it seems like terran has no strong AA to deal with baneling/muta, besides Ghosts, which are way too expensive to handle mutas decently anyway. | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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bertolo
United States133 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:51 BlueyD wrote: Chat channels, woohoo! My only concern with this patch is the zealot build time change. It will probably make PvZ and PvP more interesting, but those early terran bio pushes were already tough to deal with... Chat channels, "Soon" by blizzard standards.  | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32149 Posts
Siege tank is the only one I like. BCs I've ran into like twice in some 100+ 1v1s (interestingly enough, both were on Kulas and they teched directly to it after an FE. It's surprisngly effective). Don't think it will effect much. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:53 orgolove wrote: Everyone comparing the tanks with bw, bw tanks were much cheaper than sc2 tanks. Given their increasing cost and higher pop count, they should be more powerful. And they were, until this nerf. Sigh... They don't overshoot now and that is a HUUUGEEE difference. | ||
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Katkishka
United States658 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:53 Lann555 wrote: Very dissapointing. We will most likely have to wait another 6-8 months before chat channels are mentioned again and we might never see em at all at this rate. The game was just released like a month ago. This is the first balance patch since then. I don't think this has anything to do with the eta of chat channels. Besides, blizz stated it wouldn't be in the first month of release. | ||
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link0
United States1071 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:33 Bommes wrote: Most people use tanks as kind of backup against everything because you can secure your whole frontline with tanks out of 1 factory, because they just demolish the first front line of the enemy once you have 4-5. MorroW abused that pretty well against both Z and P. Pure mech play will still demolish ground... maybe you have to micro a bit more, but hellions just ROAST zealots it's ridiculous. Pure mech play won't be hurt that much from these changes. Not saying that we saw a lot of mech play recently, but there's no reason why it should be suddenly bad. And it's always cool to play a race or strategy that is considered as being not strong. I hated playing terran recently, thought about switching to Z. Love how everyone is overreacting to these news again. Just let Blizzard do their work and play the game, as long as you're not 1,2k+ diamond it doesn't effect you anyway. And even if you are you still shouldn't blame Blizzard for imbalance but try to find a way around it. . What are you like a gold level player? I never said hellions are weak, but massing hellions is not "mech play". Mech play involves slowly and carefully controlling space using tanks. Tanks are now useless vs Toss in TOP LEVEL PLAY. And yes, the huge tank nerf does affect my play, as I play against lzgamer, qxc, huk, nony, and slush regularly. | ||
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Mentymion
Germany259 Posts
The reason for nerfing build time of Zealots is FUBAR! This will not affect only early pushes...it will have impact on fucking everything !!! PvT is so screwed that i will play as many 1on1 right now before this match ups turns into complete garbage... David Kim is a faggot.... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Floophead_III
United States1832 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:47 NeoOmega wrote: Baby Steps. Balancing a game like this requires a gentle touch. 1 problem at a time. The NP fix has to be implemented because thors are too strong in TvZ. WAY too strong. Infestors are the only true counter to thors since lings are melee, suck, and die to hellions which are easy to get along with thors. | ||
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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OhJesusWOW
United Kingdom127 Posts
I can not forsee the future. I would have to guess moar drops, possibly some moderate Banshee and/or Ravens (with Hunter Seeker Missile) play, or possibly Ghosts for snipe. I'm sure Terran will be fine. Their compositions are just going to get more interesting. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:46 XerrolAvengerII wrote: anybody remmeber back when tank was 35 +35 in BROOD WAR??? Brood War comparison is basically worthless because 1) it's extremely hard to quantify the lack of overkill, and 2) pure damage numbers are meaningless without relevant attack speed comparisons. | ||
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DoctorPhil
Netherlands168 Posts
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:52 Katkishka wrote: Like what? Pure bio? Tanks are still the most solid solution to banelings, but since.. A) zergs know how to handle thors with mutas now B) marines are bio it seems like terran has no strong AA to deal with baneling/muta, besides Ghosts, which are way too expensive to handle mutas decently anyway. Banelings deal +light. Lemme help You,as Zerg offracing Terran. Cancel creepspread. No creep = slower banelings = less problems. I agree spreading mutas is pretty too strong,probably will be dealt with thor splash buff. You can ALWAYS tank Banelings with some marauders. Maybe consider Ravens + HSM in Your composition? Dropping auto-turrets to tank?  Also You don't need to push with BIG MAIN FORCE,You can always do drops,make some hellion harass... Try to pull Zerg off its flanks! Hope it helps  About Zealot time nerf.. I don't care,might be easier to hold 4gate. I don't cheese in ZvP because it is really fun matchup. | ||
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Tempest[OEC]
United States417 Posts
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
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ig0tfish
United States345 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:55 Floophead_III wrote: The NP fix has to be implemented because thors are too strong in TvZ. WAY too strong. Infestors are the only true counter to thors since lings are melee, suck, and die to hellions which are easy to get along with thors. Thors are not easy to get. They cost 300/200, take 60 seconds to build, and cost 6 supply. And require an armory along with factory with tech lab. | ||
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