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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 25 2010 22:14 GMT
#61
hellion > firebat/vulture...

whatever you call the equivalent, i love them.
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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
August 25 2010 22:15 GMT
#62
what the heck...

you can'T be serious.
reavers are way cooler than collossi or immortals.
the awesome micro and harrass possibilities. and those well known "wooooowww" moments.

nothing compares to reavers.
ltortoise
Profile Joined August 2010
633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 22:24:40
August 25 2010 22:23 GMT
#63
Marauder >>>> Firebat - (don't know if it's fair to call these two equivalent, but whatever)

Stalker is cooler than the Dragoon imo (WTF BLINK)

Void rays are cooler than...scouts? Goes without saying.

Clearly the medivac is cooler than the dropship.

BW siege tanks are cooler than sc2 siege tanks, not-withstanding AI discussion. The BW tanks
look cooler and were far more massable.

Goliath >>>>>>>>>> Thor. God I hate the Thor. POS unit that walks at .2 mph. Thors dont even lock their navcom. Lame-ass unit.

I prefer the sc2 battlecruiser to the bw battlecruiser. Just seems like a better and more usable overall unit.

Edit: As for zerg, I think we can all agree the baneling is what the scourge always wanted to be.
Decko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
August 25 2010 22:28 GMT
#64
An Immortal against a Reaver would be the hardest of hard counters. :D

Superman does good, you're doing well.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
August 25 2010 22:32 GMT
#65
Um... are we talking just cool factor or usefulness?

Lurker > w/e unit supposedly replaced it, can't think of any zerg unit that requires detection to fight off(tunneling roach kinda).

New queen better than old queen but not by far, I liked the fact that the old queen was a fast flier and with sc2's casting mechanics all it would need is a cheaper broodling spell like 75 energy. If new queen had like a mid/late game speed upgrade though...

Corruptors > Devourers they just look too cool (like bio matrix sentinals), there not a pain to get either. 8 would've loved to see devourers in sc2 maybe hots.

Old overlord better than new one and overseer combined even though I like changeling and creepdrop after lair. Overlord should've stayed the same making overseer a speed and sight upgrade with abilities... IMHO.

T1.5 hydras > T2.5 hydras... wtf?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 22:35:59
August 25 2010 22:34 GMT
#66
Better units, hmm...

Baneling
Marauder > firebat
Queen > Queen
Void ray > Scout

Other than that the sc1 versions were more fun from my spectator PoV.

Especially the vulture, I used it much more than I used the hellion in the campaign and in custom maps where I can choose between them. Only downside is immortals laughs at mines, taking 10-11 to get through its shield.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4007 Posts
August 25 2010 22:56 GMT
#67
Some units are lacking battle sounds:
Archon
Siege Tank
Ultralisk
Hydra
Zealot
But are definitely good, apart from that.

Some could look look different:
I'd be in favor of giving the tank a circular dual-barrel again, it looks more powerful.
The muta icon still looks like a T-Rex.
Stalker shots are too puny, dragoon balls were better.
Zerglings look/move too much like Silverfish instead of ferocious attacking beasts.

Some units lost powerful spells, but I believe this was intentional, it's now a little harder to turn the game around in 1 move:
No reavers killing all workers in 2 shots
No darkswarm enabling you to traverse the map virtually untouched
No irradiate, immediately getting rid of all muta harass
No emp rendering archons useless in 1 hit
Mind control only lasts 12 seconds instead of forever
All these changes may make units less 'cool', but they serve a purpose.

But overall i'm very happy with most units.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3806 Posts
August 25 2010 23:17 GMT
#68
There are two aspects to this post. One deals with aesthetics which I already discussed in the one of the threads the OP is referring to like this one.

The other deals with actual functionality. I don't see the point of making such comparisons because the units that don't share the same name (aside from the Queen) fill a different niche that didn't exist in the original game.

Out of all of these new areas being filled in I like the Void Ray & Sentry, Brood Lord & Queen, and Banshee, Marauder, Medivac & Raven.

In the aesthetic thread I only talked about units and buildings that transitioned from Brood War to this game so I want to add I really like the design of the Baneling, Infestor, Nydus Worm & Overseer, Banshee, Marauder, Medivac, Ghost Academy & Raven and the Twilight Council, Colossus & Stalker.
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
August 25 2010 23:23 GMT
#69
Just wanna chip in and note Brood Lords are INFINITELY cooler than guardians and better too!
O_o
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 25 2010 23:25 GMT
#70
reaver is soooooooooo much better than collossus!
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Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
August 25 2010 23:27 GMT
#71
the broodlords are 100x better then the guardians from BW.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 25 2010 23:28 GMT
#72
How can you think the colossus is better than the reaverrr !
hydezyne
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States38 Posts
August 25 2010 23:31 GMT
#73
The queens get my vote for most improved unit. They definitely feel more like caretakers of the nest now.
There is Power in Simplicity
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 25 2010 23:36 GMT
#74
Warp prisms are amazing compared to shuttles. I'm too lazy to build pylons everywhere so I started bringing warp prisms everywhere with my army now lol.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 25 2010 23:37 GMT
#75
Pretty much everything air that is not a muta is better than their BW counterparts. Also Ghosts.
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cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
August 25 2010 23:37 GMT
#76
Really? People like the SC2 zealots over the SC1? I really miss just how badass each zealot blade hit sounded like. Really made it sound like it would hurt. But the SC2 zealot blade hit just sounds a little.. out of place. Which reminds me.. they really should put the DT blade sound back as well. That was so much cooler.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12042 Posts
August 25 2010 23:41 GMT
#77
I really love the Hellion, much prefer it to the vulture/firebat.
Medivac I prefer to the dropship.
Vikings/Banshees are so much cooler than Wraiths ever were.
SC2 Battlecruiser just seems more badass and actually useful.
Ghosts of SC2 > Ghosts of SC1 considering they're actually useful and fun to use.
Thor = Goliath, I'd say they're both cool for seperate reasons.
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Rokit5
Profile Joined April 2010
236 Posts
August 25 2010 23:44 GMT
#78
On August 26 2010 05:07 Ndugu wrote:
Archon. Just kidding.

Actually, I'd have to agree with Collosus. I would love for Protoss to have a unit that could be microable with Warp Prisms like Reavers were-- but Collosi fill the army role better.

If immortals were a bit more useful except in very niche situations, I'd LOVE the stalker/immortal over Dragoon situation.


I agree. However in one of day9´s tv daily, he casts a game were TLO uses warp prism and collosi to do some early harras with greath succes. Maybe this will be a viable strat someday, only time will tell. I still think people will start to use neat stuff like storm drops/ more often, the game is just too new.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
August 25 2010 23:45 GMT
#79
The goliaths in SC2's single player look so gay compared to the SC1 goliath


hahaha i love that you said that particularly because the portrait is without a doubt, dustin browders face, guess he wanted a cameo in his game
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 23:49:13
August 25 2010 23:47 GMT
#80
Reavers > colossus for sure. From a spectators perspective these 2 units arent even close. No unit caused more "wow" moments in sc1 than the reaver. That unit is just so damn exciting.

I cant believe one guy thinks sc2 zealot > sc1 zealot. That is just wrong. I would take speedlots over chargelots any day. Speedlots were so awesome in sc1. Chargelots just arent that great. When a player got speedlots in sc1 that changed the game, but getting chargelots doesnt change the game much.

medivacs are definately cooler than dropships. warpprism is cooler than the shuttle.
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