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FrostShadow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
April 13 2011 04:56 GMT
#14821
On April 13 2011 13:54 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:51 FrostShadow wrote:
They should mention that morrow beat MC in game 2 of his series, to further prove it was possible.

I too was hoping IdrA would break through MC.


i didn't see the game (spoil it so dont' spoil others) but how did he win it?


+ Show Spoiler +
MC went blink stalkers, MorroW crushed it pretty easily and went on to win the game, closing it out methodically. (He had a huge advantage after the botched attack though.) MorroW did lose the series, but he took a game off MC on what was the worst zerg map.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:56:46
April 13 2011 04:56 GMT
#14822
On April 13 2011 13:54 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:51 FrostShadow wrote:
They should mention that morrow beat MC in game 2 of his series, to further prove it was possible.

I too was hoping IdrA would break through MC.


i didn't see the game how did he win?


+ Show Spoiler +
MC got overconfident and went 1 base all in blink stalkers

Morrow was able to defend and got way too ahead for MC to come back
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
hinnolinn
Profile Joined August 2010
212 Posts
April 13 2011 04:56 GMT
#14823
Why do people keep using game 2 morrow vs mc as proof of anything? MC didn't even get any upgrades, did he even have a forge?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 13 2011 04:57 GMT
#14824
On April 13 2011 13:56 FrostShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:54 blade55555 wrote:
On April 13 2011 13:51 FrostShadow wrote:
They should mention that morrow beat MC in game 2 of his series, to further prove it was possible.

I too was hoping IdrA would break through MC.


i didn't see the game (spoil it so dont' spoil others) but how did he win it?


+ Show Spoiler +
MC went blink stalkers, MorroW crushed it pretty easily and went on to win the game, closing it out methodically. (He had a huge advantage after the botched attack though.) MorroW did lose the series, but he took a game off MC on what was the worst zerg map.


ok thanks! ^_^
When I think of something else, something will go here
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:59:53
April 13 2011 04:57 GMT
#14825
On April 13 2011 13:54 FrostShadow wrote:
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On April 13 2011 13:52 JJH777 wrote:
IdrA already is one of the greatest players on the planet.


They mean he could be even better if he got through his mental barriers.

(At least that's what I think they meant.)


They seem to think that Idra's issue (and this is coming from Incontrol, who presumably knows Idra from a more personal level) is that he can't take accountability for his losses - ie he can't take losses, and when they happen he tilts, sometimes towards an entire match-up.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 04:58:44
April 13 2011 04:58 GMT
#14826
On April 13 2011 13:54 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 13:51 FrostShadow wrote:
They should mention that morrow beat MC in game 2 of his series, to further prove it was possible.

I too was hoping IdrA would break through MC.


i didn't see the game how did he win?

ninja'd.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 13 2011 05:01 GMT
#14827
iNcontroL comments that the main complaint regarding nyduses is that they're too expensive, Day9 starts cracking up.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
schiznak
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia258 Posts
April 13 2011 05:02 GMT
#14828
It didnt get improved, it takes 20 years to get any zerglings out of it one by one.
"That's very e-sports of you to have the camera focused on the people instead of the game" -ultradavid
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
April 13 2011 05:02 GMT
#14829
Damnit, they need Artosis for this balance discussion and he left >_<
Nakas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
April 13 2011 05:03 GMT
#14830
Artosis switched to Toss, remember?
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
April 13 2011 05:03 GMT
#14831
On April 13 2011 14:02 GwSC wrote:
Damnit, they need Artosis for this balance discussion and he left >_<

He's a protoss too though.....................................
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 05:06:46
April 13 2011 05:04 GMT
#14832
Ok, that scourge example is probably the best I've ever heard.

EDIT: Also, I miss scourge.

EDIT2: iNc, I've been complaining about Zerg 1aing and poor positioning for attacks for a while. Do you think the level of play would be higher if we didn't have unlimited unit selection? Maybe 20 unit control groups instead.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 13 2011 05:04 GMT
#14833
On April 13 2011 14:02 schiznak wrote:
It didnt get improved, it takes 20 years to get any zerglings out of it one by one.


yup, Nydus would be so much scarier if unit transfer was instantaneous instead of 1 on 1

that might be a bit too broken though. however, I've been wondering if Blizzard would be able to encourage more Nydus usage if they increased the HP on it.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 13 2011 05:05 GMT
#14834
This discourse is really good! I like it!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Nakas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
April 13 2011 05:05 GMT
#14835
Sooo... why did they refuse to discuss zerg balance in this much depth last week when Idra was on?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 13 2011 05:05 GMT
#14836
On April 13 2011 14:04 Jibba wrote:
Ok, that scourge example is probably the best I've ever heard.

EDIT: Also, I miss scourge.


Agreed. Its so true I actually completely forgot about that lol ^_^
When I think of something else, something will go here
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 13 2011 05:06 GMT
#14837
On April 13 2011 14:05 Nakas wrote:
Sooo... why did they refuse to discuss zerg balance in this much depth last week when Idra was on?

Because it would've been met with nothing but, "Zerg is terrible, protoss is imba."
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
April 13 2011 05:06 GMT
#14838
On April 13 2011 14:03 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 14:02 GwSC wrote:
Damnit, they need Artosis for this balance discussion and he left >_<

He's a protoss too though.....................................


Obviously, but he knows a lot more about what its like to play Zerg at higher levels than the rest of the cast.
BUT. I want to add...
This kind of discussion is exactly what I was looking for last week, when everyone (including myself) was in here complaining about Idra's comments being brushed aside. Believe the game is imbalanced or not, there can still be discussion about what Zerg can do better and have ideas thrown around. I'm finding they are making some really interesting points about what Zerg can be doing differently right now.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 13 2011 05:07 GMT
#14839
On April 13 2011 14:05 Nakas wrote:
Sooo... why did they refuse to discuss zerg balance in this much depth last week when Idra was on?


I'm not sure they are just talking about Zerg but a mentality. They're all former BW players, really strong ones, as I recall - so they are drawing upon their previous experience to talk about a very similar game.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 05:08:43
April 13 2011 05:07 GMT
#14840
oops
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