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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On December 14 2010 07:47 Condor Hero wrote: when they said tea and whiskey is good, i assume its iced tea ? any specific brand ? Not necessarily ice tea, I'd assume it's hot tea since whiskey can be enjoyed with hot coffee as well (Irish Coffee). Then again I don't really know for sure. | ||
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Pwere
Canada1557 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On December 14 2010 03:13 Two_DoWn wrote: This is why a drunk cast would be funny. And I definitely agree that based on the comments that most people have never been drunk before. There is a difference between head in a trash can and normal fun drinking. hahahaha he's even in chillmaster mode when he's drunk | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 14 2010 07:03 fush wrote: seriously people, take the show for what it is. if you find something that's not for you, then skip the portion or the episode. these guys are taking time to make some free entertainment for the community. enjoy it. rather than nitpicking on every little thing that you don’t agree with… that’s not being critical, it’s just being an ass. I don't think anybody is seriously upset about anything. It's just that people are casually talking about stuff that happened in the show, including bits they didn't like, or discussing a topic mentioned in the show, etc. Somebody takes it more seriously, somebody takes it less seriously, but in the end people just want to talk about stuff. It's part of this thing called popularity, and that's supposed to be a good thing. You can look at it like it's people complaining about people complaining about the show, OR you can look at it the normal way and call it discussion, because that's usually what conflicting opinions lead to (at least when they don't lead to a fistfight). I really don't like the comments about forums in the show either. The forums are kind of their entire audience, and it's also somewhat hypocritical given the post quality of you-know-who lately. =P | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
from what i heard from oGs guys, oGsMC has really good standard play and good macro. but it's not enough for protoss. you have to learn good, fast timing attacks that hit around 7min-12 min mark too. now that he executes those well, he is winning. | ||
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Teejing
Germany1360 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On December 14 2010 09:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote: i dont really think white-ra's strength is his macro from what i heard from oGs guys, oGsMC has really good standard play and good macro. but it's not enough for protoss. you have to learn good, fast timing attacks that hit around 7min-12 min mark too. now that he executes those well, he is winning. Now that's something I was wondering. Is there something inherent about Protosses design/make-up that makes "macro" play -- or basically trying to force a long game -- unrealistic? Because of all the races, Toss seems to have some of the craziest late game units. Is it the unit cost and tech tree just too expensive to risk a long game? | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On December 14 2010 09:54 Defacer wrote: Now that's something I was wondering. Is there something inherent about Protosses design/make-up that makes "macro" play -- or basically trying to force a long game -- unrealistic? Because of all the races, Toss seems to have some of the craziest late game units. Is it the unit cost or tech tree for Toss just too expensive to risk a long game? I'm a Protoss player and I prefer macro games, but for me it feels very risky to do overly economical builds. Being agressive as Protoss actually feels more safe. I don't know exactly why, and would be happy if there was a trend towards more safe yet macro-oriented Protoss play. | ||
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Zauvryn
United States18 Posts
On December 14 2010 09:54 Defacer wrote: Now that's something I was wondering. Is there something inherent about Protosses design/make-up that makes "macro" play -- or basically trying to force a long game -- unrealistic? Because of all the races, Toss seems to have some of the craziest late game units. Is it the unit cost or tech tree for Toss just too expensive to risk a long game? Actually, I'd say it's that most Protoss haven't learned to mix harass into their play, while Zerg and even more so Terran are abusing the hell out of harassment right now. Protoss definitely do have some amazing endgame units, and at that point there's really no excuse for not having the tech available for all of them. However, most Protoss players seem to get stuck around three bases. They don't feel comfortable expanding because their opponents are already abusing their lack of mobility with drops and air units, and they can't put their opponent on the defensive because of the Protoss "deathball" mentality; they're deadset on the stalker/sentry/colossus composition that needs to stay in a tight group to remain effective and lacks the speed to put on pressure while defending. I'd predict that once Protoss a) start diversifying their tech as soon as possible in midgame and b) abuse the mobility of small groups of upgraded warpgate units and warp prisms they'll feel much more comfortable in late game situations. In a not entirely unrelated note, Carrier/High Templar is amazing. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
I always associate Tester with heroic base defense and well-timed 2 or 3 base collossus balls. I'm wondering if there is a crazy protoss that goes 3 to 4 bases on a regular basis, and makes it work. | ||
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evoli
United States333 Posts
On December 14 2010 10:28 Defacer wrote: I always associate Tester with heroic base defense and well-timed 2 or 3 base collossus balls. I'm wondering if there is a crazy protoss that goes 3 to 4 bases on a regular basis, and makes it work. Minigun prefers to play a macro game. He says he does anyway. He played an epic bo5 versus Drewbie yesterday. I can get you the replays when I get home; I'm on my phone now. A lot of people don't consider Mini on the same level as some of these other players, because his success is almost exclusively on ladder. That's a judgement call for you to make though. | ||
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TheWoodLeagueAllstar
United Kingdom617 Posts
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evoli
United States333 Posts
On December 13 2010 16:27 Strut wrote: I agree with you that the drunk cast is a pretty stupid idea (if its not a joke, i still think it kinda is) but on the other hand, i think it's a response to all the criticism from this thread. Incontrol overreacts to all the negative responses he gets on every cast, so if indeed this does happen I think their message is clear. it's just a podcast, if you don't like it, dont listen. that said, i bought a bottle of zin yesterday I can't even begin to imagine why some people are so opposed to the idea. I think a lot of you don't understand that someone can drink casually. I imagine our SoTG hosts will have a few drinks and then proceed with things as usual. They'll probably be a tad looser than usual, but good for them. They do work, it'll be fun to see them unwind. I seriously doubt that Nony will be fifteen shots deep, crying about his childhood as he vomits. It's going to be a pretty normal show. Maybe even better than normal. | ||
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LolUMadBruv
4 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On December 14 2010 10:46 evoli wrote: I can't even begin to imagine why some people are so opposed to the idea. I think a lot of you don't understand that someone can drink casually. I imagine our SoTG hosts will have a few drinks and then proceed with things as usual. They'll probably be a tad looser than usual, but good for them. They do work, it'll be fun to see them unwind. I seriously doubt that Nony will be fifteen shots deep, crying about his childhood as he vomits. It's going to be a pretty normal show. Maybe even better than normal. The funny thing is that I think a podcast is the best medium to get shit-face drunk on. What makes podcasts and radio unique is that you can get away with things you normally couldn't, because you're letting the listener fill in the blanks. For instance, hearing about Day9 eating a $1 hotdog and not wearing pants is funny. But if we saw it on video, it would probably be a little sad and depressing. Or another good example is the Howard Stern show. When you listen to it, it's can be hilarious, but if you watch any of their video, you realize it's just a bunch of sad old perverts watching someone's daughter ride a sybian. If the MLG Dallas Live on 3 was a podcast instead of a video stream, I think there would have been a lot less criticism of that episode. That's my theory, anyway. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On December 14 2010 10:36 evoli wrote: Minigun prefers to play a macro game. He says he does anyway. He played an epic bo5 versus Drewbie yesterday. I can get you the replays when I get home; I'm on my phone now. A lot of people don't consider Mini on the same level as some of these other players, because his success is almost exclusively on ladder. That's a judgement call for you to make though. Minigun streams, right? | ||
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Minigun
619 Posts
On December 14 2010 10:42 Frack wrote: Mini is a very good ladder player but when he comes up against people who know his style he gets exposed every single time. He knows what he is doing sure but everytime he comes up against someone really good on ladder he cant handle them, especially zergs. That's not true in the slightest. | ||
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TheWoodLeagueAllstar
United Kingdom617 Posts
Record against Catz? He knows your style and beats it every single time :/ you yourself said it. You are a good player but your not flexible enough yet. Add machine to that list too | ||
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