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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 15 2012 22:58 GMT
#51361
ToD is probably the most creative balance whiner ever :p
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10115 Posts
November 15 2012 22:58 GMT
#51362
Poor example from ToD, is obvious that infestor takes long time to pop, while khaydarin storms didn't.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 15 2012 22:58 GMT
#51363
lol this is pretty funny right now
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
November 15 2012 22:59 GMT
#51364
You can totally tell that darkforce knows his race is super op and that he doesn't want to even face nerfs lol.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10115 Posts
November 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#51365
who is the zerg ? because i see QXC, but is obvious he isn't QXC xD
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
November 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#51366
On November 16 2012 07:59 ReachTheSky wrote:
You can totally tell that darkforce knows his race is super op and that he doesn't want to even face nerfs lol.

Super OP? Enough with the dramatics.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#51367
On November 16 2012 08:00 Godwrath wrote:
who is the zerg ? because i see QXC, but is obvious he isn't QXC xD


That's darkforce.

And um, Darkforce? How do we make carriers without dying?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10115 Posts
November 15 2012 23:01 GMT
#51368
On November 16 2012 08:00 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 08:00 Godwrath wrote:
who is the zerg ? because i see QXC, but is obvious he isn't QXC xD


That's darkforce.

And um, Darkforce? How do we make carriers without dying?


Now he is saying protoss have it easier on a baserace. Hahaha. Spines man, spines.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 23:02:16
November 15 2012 23:01 GMT
#51369
Surprised the fact that fungals just kill interceptors hasn't been brought up
At the stage of the game they're talking about, you can't just waste minerals, and your bank is everything.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#51370
On November 16 2012 08:01 caradoc wrote:
Surprised the fact that fungals just kill interceptors hasn't been brought up

Yeah that's like THE REASON Carriers aren't viable.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#51371
On November 16 2012 07:55 m0ck wrote:
Well, one point that is not being raised: Zerg needs tier three to win on the offensive. Terran and protoss do not.

There is a plethora of all-ins you can do, but I assume you didn't mean those. There is also the fast roach max that went out of fashion like half a year ago, but you can still win with that if the P doesn't defend well.
I'd also say that P cannot win without tier three, outside of 2 base all-ins, so they are in the same boat as Z, except their Tier 3 is less dominating and needs to be supplemented with a lot of lower tier tech. Terran is a different beast, they cannot win on tier 3, even if they wanted.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
November 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#51372
"Carriers is the answer."

I cringe every time I hear this.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 15 2012 23:03 GMT
#51373
ToD is not a fan of kayaks
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Hing
Profile Joined November 2010
Estonia26 Posts
November 15 2012 23:03 GMT
#51374
It would seem that both Darkforce and Tod are really bad at arguing and counter-arguing and bringing up good points (khaldarym amulet for example)...
Jaisse
Profile Joined November 2011
United States66 Posts
November 15 2012 23:03 GMT
#51375
The fact that any race needs such an elaborate composition to possibly (not definitely) beat a mass of one single unit is unbelievable.
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
November 15 2012 23:04 GMT
#51376
This is turning into a whine fest. Can't hate on zergs for using infestors. There simply is no other valid option. Zerg was a mess until they realized infestors would give them time to get a broodlord army, and then everything centered around that because it actually made them good lategame for once.

Zerg stands and falls on the infestor unit alone. Infestor determines the entire ZvX matchup balance all on its own. No way blizzard will change the infestor before HotS. Much too risky.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 23:04:41
November 15 2012 23:04 GMT
#51377
Zerg needs T3 to beat P & T T1/T2.

P & T needs T3 to beat Z T3.

It's pretty essential and really needs to be brought up.
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
November 15 2012 23:04 GMT
#51378
Can someone link the picture asked Jp to put one???
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
November 15 2012 23:04 GMT
#51379
If terran and protoss could transition into air as fast as zerg then they would never lose games. BC + Raven is stronger than broodlords and carrier templar army is also very strong, it just takes some time to make. If they could tech switch as easily as zerg it would literally be impossible for zerg to win late game. The reason so many games with zerg in them go to late game is because any protoss or terran that wants to turtle to late game can do so easily, and zerg can't kill them until their hive tech units. If they could turtle while making a composition that beats zerg hive tech then Avilo would win MLG.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 15 2012 23:04 GMT
#51380
Well he's not saying you can easily get to carriers, he's saying that once you have the perfect army with 3/3 carriers, mothership, templars, archons and one or two colossi, the Zerg end-game army is beatable.
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