Really enjoyed the TvP breakdown after listening to it again (and will likely listen to it a few times more).
Definitely have more of these segments on if you can when the range of guests allows for it. Was great having a Terran v 2 Protoss. Far better than say, a debate with Grack talking about Zerg probems, Incontrol and Tyler being comparatively clueless, then Day9 being all diplomatic. I wanna see contrasting opinions like we got here, great great stuff and above all educational.
PainUser was also fucking hilarious. Might be the best guest yet.
On November 20 2010 11:37 Gentso wrote: Has anyone yet mentioned that another plus to teching to DT's is that you can make Archons? I was a little surprised that there wasn't any mention of Archons at all in the podcast.
I mentioned it in chat and we all laughed about it... :o
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I don't play Protoss, and virtually never see them used when I play, so I can't really comment on their effectiveness. I guess the show's opinion is that they're laughable, hehe. However, I recall Koreans on Gisado's stream (when it was available to foreigners) using them to tank against bio balls and it worked OK as far as I can remember.
I feel as though Archons are one of a few things Protoss completely neglect these days. Like I said, I can't really make any legit comments on balance but I just have that gut feeling that things like archons, hallucinate, dark templar, and phoenix will eventually be included in pro games much more effectively than right now. And it's probably just the optimist theorycrafter in me, but maybe that's why Protoss feels barren right now.
Archons have 10 hp after an emp. Sentries do a better job tanking. The T will have ghosts by the time you are using archons to tank bio balls...
Do you even have the game? How can you be that uninformed?
On November 21 2010 05:29 Barrin wrote: Looking at the last bunch of pages I don't think I know how to submit a question or if you even do that still but here it goes... and I think this might have been touched on before but I think its ok to talk about it again at this point.
I might suggest you read the first post of the thread where the e-mail address where you can send your questions to is listed.
Ok so Incontrol is surprised that Select doesn't want to shake his hand.. Is this guy fucking simple? During the live show after mlg dallas he starts shouting about how select has a small penis and starts describing select being anally penetrated by other players.. to a stream thousands of people will watch.. and he expects select to show him any kind of respect? oh wow. Mate I don't care how fucking funny you think you are, you are not going to get away with pulling crap like that on people you don't even know, keep it to your friends. Especially with someone from a different culture who could be doubly offended by that kind of thing. Try showing a bit of respect and you might get some back.
On November 21 2010 20:50 ironside wrote: Ok so Incontrol is surprised that Select doesn't want to shake his hand.. Is this guy fucking simple? During the live show after mlg dallas he starts shouting about how select has a small penis and starts describing select being anally penetrated by other players.. to a stream thousands of people will watch.. and he expects select to show him any kind of respect? oh wow. Mate I don't care how fucking funny you think you are, you are not going to get away with pulling crap like that on people you don't even know, keep it to your friends. Especially with someone from a different culture who could be doubly offended by that kind of thing. Try showing a bit of respect and you might get some back.
it's clear who plays what race in the comments re: incontrol/tyler vs painuser debate that happened but (as a toss of course) had to agree with incontrol on most of his points. going DTs is way more of a gamble than going banshee. when going banshee the t has instant access to ANY unit aside from bc/thor if he wants... all painuser could say were cynical replies like "well you could just.."
On November 21 2010 20:50 ironside wrote: Ok so Incontrol is surprised that Select doesn't want to shake his hand.. Is this guy fucking simple? During the live show after mlg dallas he starts shouting about how select has a small penis and starts describing select being anally penetrated by other players.. to a stream thousands of people will watch.. and he expects select to show him any kind of respect? oh wow. Mate I don't care how fucking funny you think you are, you are not going to get away with pulling crap like that on people you don't even know, keep it to your friends. Especially with someone from a different culture who could be doubly offended by that kind of thing. Try showing a bit of respect and you might get some back.
YOU WON'T GET AWAY WITH THIS INCONTROL! I WILL GET YOUUUUUU
On November 21 2010 20:50 ironside wrote: Ok so Incontrol is surprised that Select doesn't want to shake his hand.. Is this guy fucking simple? During the live show after mlg dallas he starts shouting about how select has a small penis and starts describing select being anally penetrated by other players.. to a stream thousands of people will watch.. and he expects select to show him any kind of respect? oh wow. Mate I don't care how fucking funny you think you are, you are not going to get away with pulling crap like that on people you don't even know, keep it to your friends. Especially with someone from a different culture who could be doubly offended by that kind of thing. Try showing a bit of respect and you might get some back.
lol truly the thread that keeps on giving
the comedic value of this thread is better than Live threads ^___^ never disappointing
On November 21 2010 20:50 ironside wrote: Ok so Incontrol is surprised that Select doesn't want to shake his hand.. Is this guy fucking simple? During the live show after mlg dallas he starts shouting about how select has a small penis and starts describing select being anally penetrated by other players.. to a stream thousands of people will watch.. and he expects select to show him any kind of respect? oh wow. Mate I don't care how fucking funny you think you are, you are not going to get away with pulling crap like that on people you don't even know, keep it to your friends. Especially with someone from a different culture who could be doubly offended by that kind of thing. Try showing a bit of respect and you might get some back.
YOU WON'T GET AWAY WITH THIS INCONTROL! I WILL GET YOUUUUUU
roflflfl
I don't think you have to justify youre comments to anyone here (except for probably Select) but I still would like you to hear your thoughts. Would you make the same comment again (I only mean the above mentioned comments, pointing out flaws in ones game such as using only one build is absolutly ok in my opinion) from your todays perspective? And can you atleast comprehend why someone could be offended by these comments?
On a less serious topic: I really love the podcast, keep up the great work! <3
Edit: To make it clear, if you want to leave this ongoing drama behind I don't think you have to make any more comments on this. Would be nice though, if you get things straight with Select.
Great cast, just finally got around to listening. iNcontroL and Tyler summed up my feelings on Toss very well. I also appreciated PainUsers input on it.
I specifically remember Tyler saying recently (a few weeks ago or so) that he felt the lack of Toss's winning in tournaments was because they were "making mistakes". And granted, you make a big mistake and you can and will lose a lot of the time. That comment made me nervous though because I was thinking to myself the margin for winning seems so narrow for Toss. Do I really need to play near perfect to win? Is my opponent making as few mistakes as I am?
Just to be clear, I'm not saying Toss is awful. Not going to change races, and I do agree that we cant just point out the problems we need to try and be more creative with what we have. That said though, I'm really hoping to either see some improvements or have some player show me how it's done.