On July 03 2012 01:51 Larkin wrote: Then he loses to an all-in because he played too greedy. Which is just StarCraft in essence.
Oh and another thing, I AGREE WITH YOU! I bet avilo agrees with you too. The problem is Terrans can't punish greedy Zergs now!
Tell me a Terran build that wins a game at the 7minute mark like Zitko did vs. DeMu in WCS finals game 3 that doesn't involve something like forgetting to make a spawning pool
What the fuck? There isn't supposed to be a build that wins at the seven minute mark. Sneaking 4 hellions into your opponent's base and autowinning by killing 10 drones isn't viable any more! oh no! That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard. If you're looking for a build that wins at 7 minutes without going completely all in you should play a different game. Have you considered rock paper scissors? That may be better for you.
Yup this lol. There should never a build that will win you the game at 7 minutes most of the time. All ins or a build where you want to win early are based on how well your opponent reacts and defends. Just face palm at his "tell me a terran build that wins a game at the 7 minute mark" -_-. Proxy 2 rax can work but shouldn't ever work all the time for example.
ok but roach bane isnt even allin anymore it outrights kills the vast majority of greedy builds from terrans and theres a ton of abusive stuff u can do like 8lings or mass speedlings 3rd bboongbboong stlye and so on, terran doesnt really have anything similar now
It's still very very all in. That hasn't changed. Queens have more range now! Therefore roaches and banelings are free and turn into drones when they die! Wut????
lol constructive post stephano uses it everygame and if it fails he still has a macro game vs top koreans so
drg does do that a lot too. theres way to transition if u have good decision making and mechanics, and u will do dmg unless its hardcountered
Well what I have a problem with is that you say something is not all in "anymore." Queens getting more range doesnt mean all ins become non all ins.
theyre not the only reason, but its nice to know that if all ur opponent has is hellions and banshee u can just build more queens and drones. or that queens actually beat combat shields rines if u get enough of them, in a hugely cost effective manner. like yea sometimes u will go roach banes and terran will hardcounter it, u lose everything, and u dont prepare enough to the counter attack and die, but if u make every right move u will have a macro game out of it. the "anymore" is zerg figuring out how to do it properly+ the fact that droning is safer now helps it
I guess it's time for me to pull an IdrA and stop talking to you since you clearly don't know left from right.
On July 03 2012 05:06 Defacer wrote: I actually agree with IdrA ... there is something about MKP's approach to the game that seems gimmicky and terrible.
Can you try and pinpoint it? Too much micro? Too much aggression? Too much innovation?
Too much shit that makes no sense whatsoever and are sometimes compensate by amazing micro (and as of the last 6 month great macro).
For example, he played against White-ra at IPL who was going 3 robos colossus, MKP responded and stayed on pure marines with 20 ghost and absolutely no medivacs for 15 minutes.
In the code A ro24 in gsl, played on Ohana against yugioh who went for pure ling-infestors (up to like 15) and later ultralisk. MKP never made a ghost.
And if you look at his earlier days it's actually silly how much his decision-making was hurting him, there was a point where he was actually making only marines against infestor-blings and BFH-tanks.
On July 03 2012 05:12 Shiori wrote:
On July 03 2012 05:06 Defacer wrote: I actually agree with IdrA ... there is something about MKP's approach to the game that seems gimmicky and terrible.
I'm sure IdrA still has issues with Huk's style, even though they're teammates.
It may have less to do with whether or not guys like MKP or Huk are actually bad, but more to do with style and personal taste. IdrA doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that likes watching people play risky builds or make shortcuts to gain an advantage.
Idra doesn't realize that his style is actually the worst sort imaginable. People are just addicted to the idea that playing "standard" is somehow more honourable or skillful than being able to metagame/gimmick/all-in your opponent.
IdrA isn't criticizing MKP for having a weird style or a wide range of builds, he stated numerous times (about Violet, Coca, MVP) that it's a very good thing to have those. He doesn't like MKP because he thinks his style just comes from poor understanding of the game.
MKP can switch it up very well. He plays oftentimes gimmicki and plays bad strategies by intention. But he can pull the switch very well. He can play serious style, with good builds, good strategies and patience and clever movement. But he is actually a player who enjoys playing and he enjoys doing weird stuff. And Idra... With his silly comments... I don't know if he tries to be funny about them, but if, he's really bad at it. And if he is serious with them, poor boy. Work on your own skill and gameunderstanding! Because Idra is one of the worst pro zergs when it comes down to decision making!
You have no way of knowing if he does that by intention, people keep on calling his stupid builds trolling but that's BS. When he nuked his marines at mlg, people said he was trolling because he was so far ahead etc. Turns out he just didn't cancel it by mistake. Same thing later in the same MLG, he did a stupid thor build against IdrA, the Live report thread was flooded by comments about how MKP knew he was so much better that he wouldn't lose no matter what. Then he says in a following interview that out of all the zergs, the one he really doesn't want to play is actually IdrA. Same in IPL against WR.
And IdrA does have good decision making, that and macro are the two things that made him stay relevant for such a long time, because other than that he has rather poor army control (especially infestor retention), is not very good at improvisation and has a poor mentality.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
On July 03 2012 06:02 MichaelDonovan wrote: What the fuck? There isn't supposed to be a build that wins at the seven minute mark.
DeMu agrees with you!
edit: I'm now guessing MichaelDonovan didn't watch the UK WCS so his previous few posts with witty comments such as "Queens have more range now! Therefore roaches and banelings are free and turn into drones when they die! Wut????" can be edited to "Herpaderp" because he doesn't even understand what is being discussed at the moment.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
yeah i'd say that is an apt analogy. but they are "progamers" (and i use that in the loosest possible definition) so they dont actually make that much money at the end of the day. you probably don't want to sign up. dont quit your dayjob.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
Having hung out with Incontrol personally at a barcraft in Boston, I can say you are 100% incorrect. I can respect the fact that you don't like how they treated Avilo, but the rest of what you are posting is nonsense. There are very few non-koreans who have made it to the round of 8 in the GSL, and Idra is one of them. Incontrol is still qualifying for events that other NA players have not. Do they hold up to top Koreans? No, but very few players from EU or NA do.
Idra and Incontrol have both said that every fan they meet in person is awesome and great to deal with. From my encounter with Incontrol, he was fun, polite and more than happy to have a drink with people. Same with JP, DJ Wheat and Slasher.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
Having hung out with Incontrol personally at a barcraft in Boston, I can say you are 100% incorrect. I can respect the fact that you don't like how they treated Avilo, but the rest of what you are posting is nonsense. There are very few non-koreans who have made it to the round of 8 in the GSL, and Idra is one of them. Incontrol is still qualifying for events that other NA players have not. Do they hold up to top Koreans? No, but very few players from EU or NA do.
Idra and Incontrol have both said that every fan they meet in person is awesome and great to deal with. From my encounter with Incontrol, he was fun, polite and more than happy to have a drink with people. Same with JP, DJ Wheat and Slasher.
lol. when you say "you" and quote my post, i hope you arent referring to me since i was being sarcastic. eg isnt going to pay players for doing nothing, and i doubt they have a contingency fund for those players with an "asshole" personality.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
Having hung out with Incontrol personally at a barcraft in Boston, I can say you are 100% incorrect. I can respect the fact that you don't like how they treated Avilo, but the rest of what you are posting is nonsense. There are very few non-koreans who have made it to the round of 8 in the GSL, and Idra is one of them. Incontrol is still qualifying for events that other NA players have not. Do they hold up to top Koreans? No, but very few players from EU or NA do.
Idra and Incontrol have both said that every fan they meet in person is awesome and great to deal with. From my encounter with Incontrol, he was fun, polite and more than happy to have a drink with people. Same with JP, DJ Wheat and Slasher.
lol. when you say "you" and quote my post, i hope you arent referring to me since i was being sarcastic. eg isnt going to pay players for doing nothing, and i doubt they have a contingency fund for those players with an "asshole" personality.
Scarcasm is a hard thing on the internet and I clearly did not notice that you were being scarcastic. However, if taken alone, your post does look like the sort of non-sense that would be posted in the SotG thread. Clearly your mocking skills are to good. Or I need to go home and eat something.
And it is still his right to say his opinion and thx he is allowed.
I think all US Americans who are protesting against obamas health reform should get cancer just to understand how fucked a person is if he gets sick in america.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
wow with such powerful metaphors you're on the track toward becoming the next Ray Bradbury
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
How are they 'raking in cash' I wouldnt pay a dime to see them vs koreans - it's like adults beating on children when they match up, those imba matches dont sell fights either. Only thing I pay for is GSL, full year, and judging my mlgs back step, not many pay to see westerners play nor thier B rate promotions. look at it this way, they are doing a free show, with no ads. How they making money?
On July 03 2012 04:37 Roggay wrote: He called nestea terrible when he WAS terrible, if you can remember the first season of GSL...
No, he called Nestea terrible after Nestea won GSL2.
I'm not joking.
Thats fucking hilarious. How about after 3 he come round? They say crazy keep making same mistakes and I saw it on show with MKP who's won like 175K and he still calls bad.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Ok, but compared to Idra, Avilo is still terrible, slump or not. I just find calling someone terrible who is still better than most foreigners when he slumps is silly. Unless of couse you didn't actually know what the word "relative" meant in that context and didn't mean to imply that Idra was "terrible" (which is exactly what you said).
Saying Idra shouldn't call someone bad while slumping is one thing, but calling him terrible is ridiculous (though likely you misused that word).
yes we can all agree avilo is on a whole different level of bad, i've never even heard of him prior to this show. is he seriously a pro player? lol. but idra isnt in a slump he was just never that good to begin with.
doing stuff like GGing won games to hallucinated void rays and after MMA destroys his own CC is not the mark of a champion, its the mark of a loser. he has a shitty attitude and it reflects in his results. he's won a few tournaments here and there but he is no longer relevant at all. his success was early on in the game when everyone was still learning, but koreans surpassed him and now foreigners are too. his last big game that actually had koreans was what? IEM guangzhou? yeah he's just not good anymore.
and i'm not sure if he's serious when he disses MKP. if he's not trolling, then just wow lol. i'd put down ten grand in an MKP idra money match and bet it on MKP every single time.
he and incontrol make money not based on their skill which clearly isn't there, but on their asshole personas
so, what you are saying is that incontrol and idra are the wall street of sc2? they arent very good at their jobs, they have dick personalities, they are raking in all of the cash (and laughing at you) and they piss everyone off, but nobody can do a damn thing about it? seems like they are on a whole new level of "good." where do i sign up?
How are they 'raking in cash' I wouldnt pay a dime to see them vs koreans - it's like adults beating on children when they match up, those imba matches dont sell fights either. Only thing I pay for is GSL, full year, and judging my mlgs back step, not many pay to see westerners play nor thier B rate promotions. look at it this way, they are doing a free show, with no ads. How they making money?
they are even worse wall streeters than i thought. dont even make money!
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Idra has won or placed far higher in multipule tournaments over the years in both SC2 and BW. Avilo has not, though could in the future. Being in a slump is part of being a professional. Every player has them and it does not diminish their previous accomplishments.
He has called nestea and mkp terrible as well.
Unless he has better performance then those two as well?
Besides the ones that are actually good don't need to talk others down.
He called nestea terrible when he WAS terrible, if you can remember the first season of GSL... I'm pretty sure the whole MKP is terrible is kind of a joke now, altho yes he really thought it and was wrong about it.
Sure idra fanboy.
So he got good overnight then, since he won season 2.
Also for the others it might be a joke, but Idra is somehow actually serious when he says Mkp does random shit/is bad. Just cause he can't follow the guy. (aka Idra his problem, every1 should play the game the way he thinks is ''normal'')
I don't get how people accept that at all or even like him for it, shitting on players that are better then he will ever be.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Idra has won or placed far higher in multipule tournaments over the years in both SC2 and BW. Avilo has not, though could in the future. Being in a slump is part of being a professional. Every player has them and it does not diminish their previous accomplishments.
He has called nestea and mkp terrible as well.
Unless he has better performance then those two as well?
Besides the ones that are actually good don't need to talk others down.
He called nestea terrible when he WAS terrible, if you can remember the first season of GSL... I'm pretty sure the whole MKP is terrible is kind of a joke now, altho yes he really thought it and was wrong about it.
Sure idra fanboy.
So he got good overnight then, since he won season 2.
Already said it once, but I apparently need to say it again - Idra called Nestea terrible AFTER GSL2.
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Idra has won or placed far higher in multipule tournaments over the years in both SC2 and BW. Avilo has not, though could in the future. Being in a slump is part of being a professional. Every player has them and it does not diminish their previous accomplishments.
He has called nestea and mkp terrible as well.
Unless he has better performance then those two as well?
Besides the ones that are actually good don't need to talk others down.
He called nestea terrible when he WAS terrible, if you can remember the first season of GSL... I'm pretty sure the whole MKP is terrible is kind of a joke now, altho yes he really thought it and was wrong about it.
Sure idra fanboy.
So he got good overnight then, since he won season 2.
Already said it once, but I apparently need to say it again - Idra called Nestea terrible AFTER GSL2.
even better he called fruitdealer good in the same interview
On July 02 2012 17:07 tdt wrote: Funny idra calling ppl terrible... guess its all relative eh?
That is pretty shallow logic seeing as how Idra was once a top pro, only recently slumping (while still now being a top foreigner). I'm not quite sure how you can group Idra and Avilo (who is barely relevent besides causing drama) together as "terrible". That's some logic ya got there.
I just thought it was fuuny a player with <40% tlpd recent w/r calling another terrible, especially a top GM.
Idra has won or placed far higher in multipule tournaments over the years in both SC2 and BW. Avilo has not, though could in the future. Being in a slump is part of being a professional. Every player has them and it does not diminish their previous accomplishments.
He has called nestea and mkp terrible as well.
Unless he has better performance then those two as well?
Besides the ones that are actually good don't need to talk others down.
He called nestea terrible when he WAS terrible, if you can remember the first season of GSL... I'm pretty sure the whole MKP is terrible is kind of a joke now, altho yes he really thought it and was wrong about it.
Sure idra fanboy.
So he got good overnight then, since he won season 2.
Already said it once, but I apparently need to say it again - Idra called Nestea terrible AFTER GSL2.
even better he called fruitdealer good in the same interview
You meant that?
"..he is not as good as you think, but he is not bad.." is not "terrible"
EPT
