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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#47601
On June 29 2012 12:11 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:08 Aocowns wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:03 iky43210 wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:00 Jinsho wrote:
Really JP? You bring this avilo guy on, who has no credentials, no skill, no results anywhere all, and let him talk? Was that segment supposed to be a joke? Did you want to fuel sweet reddit drama?

How can anyone play Terran and not facepalm because this fool was chosen to be their representative where dozen others would have been able to a better job? This was embarassingly bad JP, and you are the cause for this, because you provided him a platform for people to laugh at.

Have some standards please and say "no" to clowns like him.

newsflash, nobody on state of the game has any results or skill. They have all fallen off the map and is more of an entertaining entity now.

Maybe if they spend more time playing sc2 they might have better results. I mean, I just saw huk, demuslim and bunch of other pros walking around chatting. I have a good feeling puma is the only one there actually going full force at practicing

OH MY FUCKING GOD THEY TALKED TO EACHOTHER IN THE TEAMHOUSE?!

Even though none of them are really having any success or results in the game they can still talk balance, wtf are you talking about? Idra doesn't really do well atm, but he's a really smart guy and what he says about balance isn't complete utter bullshit as you want it to be. Same goes for QXC.


maybe you should read into the context before going off on a paragraph while saying absoutely nothing about anything.


Maybe you should, Aocowns made a fucking good counter point there.

"I just saw HuK Demuslim and a bunch of other pros walking around chatting"
is the correct line I believe.

where's your context at?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Pootytang
Profile Joined February 2011
United States37 Posts
June 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#47602
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.



He gets it
God gave us a pinky so we can sprint and crouch
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
June 29 2012 03:15 GMT
#47603
On June 29 2012 12:14 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


best post in the thread so far



Deadly accurate, Its good to see some people are sane.
Kaiyotic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States90 Posts
June 29 2012 03:15 GMT
#47604
On June 29 2012 12:14 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


best post in the thread so far

Perfect TL;DR.
Rain: Idra's face is scary
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 29 2012 03:15 GMT
#47605
On June 29 2012 12:11 oniman999 wrote:
Very disappointing. This only happened because they were trying to get more viewers from drama. Avilo brings drama, Idra brings drama, and balance discussion brings drama. Put all three together and you get whatever this is.

Yeah.. this is what pretty much happened with jp and incontrol giggling like little girls on the background.. shame.
MiX
Profile Joined August 2010
United States109 Posts
June 29 2012 03:15 GMT
#47606
On June 29 2012 12:13 Mauldo wrote:
Guys, I think I've figured it out. Take everyone who is actually insulted by JP cutting off Avilo when Avilo had literally zero intelligent or relevant things to say.

Now see how many are Terran.

If the results are any less than 70% I'll eat my computer.

The mix of TvZ butthurt, the fact that it's the SOTG thread (so no one can actually make sense), and that it was Idra have made this thread a veritable shit storm.

Time to leave gentlemen. Itsmedudeman put it best: Unstoppable force meets immovable object.


Probably around 90% because the whiners didn't get the hour long sobfest they've wanted for weeks.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
June 29 2012 03:16 GMT
#47607
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


You know it's possible to have a civil debate without telling the person to "shut the fuck up" for no good reason
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itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
June 29 2012 03:17 GMT
#47608
Unfortunately, that happened. Sorry to IdrA and Avilo for creating that situation. I had no idea that was going to happen and I wished it didn't looking back. I was unaware of their past.

In regards to the 'bullying' I don't know really anything about Avilo so when I asked him if that was him, it was a sincere question, not a joke. The reason I cut him off abruptly is because it was going downhill very quickly. It was a brash decision but one I stand by. I instantly messaged him afterwards to apologize for having to do that.

VOD processing, MP3 up -- http://sotg-sc2.blogspot.com/2012/06/sotg-ep72.html
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
sincerelysLeEpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
June 29 2012 03:17 GMT
#47609
On June 29 2012 12:16 MasterKang wrote:

You know it's possible to have a civil debate without telling the person to "shut the fuck up" for no good reason


Amen to that...Be the adult you are. OH WAIT, nevermind, 22 going on 12

User was warned for this post
sLeEpy - Do what you do for not for fame or to impress anyone, but for God and you will succeed.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
June 29 2012 03:17 GMT
#47610
On June 29 2012 12:17 itmeJP wrote:
Unfortunately, that happened. Sorry to IdrA and Avilo for creating that situation. I had no idea that was going to happen and I wished it didn't looking back. I was unaware of their past.

In regards to the 'bullying' I don't know really anything about Avilo so when I asked him if that was him, it was a sincere question, not a joke. The reason I cut him off abruptly is because it was going downhill very quickly. It was a brash decision but one I stand by. I instantly messaged him afterwards to apologize for having to do that.

VOD processing, MP3 up -- http://sotg-sc2.blogspot.com/2012/06/sotg-ep72.html

Good. This is the kind of response I'd hope you'd give.

Idra and Incontrol, however, have more explaining to do.
KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
June 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#47611
great show, loved it! keep up the good work
"We need alcohol" ~Stork
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
June 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#47612
The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.


Actually, Avilo was simply saying that he, Avilo, agreed with what Idra had just said, which specifically was that zerg is able to get their economy going because of the queen buff. He wasn't being sneaky or underhanded at all.
Procrastination is the enemy
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#47613
On June 29 2012 12:12 mojoface wrote:
JP falling for screamer

[image loading]

hahaahah oh jp
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MiX
Profile Joined August 2010
United States109 Posts
June 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#47614
On June 29 2012 12:16 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


You know it's possible to have a civil debate without telling the person to "shut the fuck up" for no good reason


He only said shut the fuck up after being interrupted for the second time in the span of 30 seconds. Quit being so melodramatic it's obnoxious.
Positronic
Profile Joined May 2012
121 Posts
June 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#47615
On June 29 2012 12:17 itmeJP wrote:
Unfortunately, that happened. Sorry to IdrA and Avilo for creating that situation. I had no idea that was going to happen and I wished it didn't looking back. I was unaware of their past.

In regards to the 'bullying' I don't know really anything about Avilo so when I asked him if that was him, it was a sincere question, not a joke. The reason I cut him off abruptly is because it was going downhill very quickly. It was a brash decision but one I stand by. I instantly messaged him afterwards to apologize for having to do that.

VOD processing, MP3 up -- http://sotg-sc2.blogspot.com/2012/06/sotg-ep72.html


I for one appreciate you posting and explaining a little bit. I really enjoyed the show outside of that segment. Thanks.
DG.Zeya
Profile Joined January 2012
United States39 Posts
June 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#47616
On June 29 2012 12:16 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


You know it's possible to have a civil debate without telling the person to "shut the fuck up" for no good reason


Amen brotha
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
June 29 2012 03:19 GMT
#47617
lol just listened to the avilo vs IdrA debate again. IdrA's late game solution to TvZ = build 4 star ports to get a couple of ravens. There you go. He's solved it. Thanks IdrA, see you soon in GM.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 29 2012 03:19 GMT
#47618
On June 29 2012 12:16 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


You know it's possible to have a civil debate without telling the person to "shut the fuck up" for no good reason

Not when the one you are ''debating'' with is acting like a retard who can't argue properly
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 29 2012 03:19 GMT
#47619
On June 29 2012 12:16 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:
On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great.


Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished.

They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion.

At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine).

Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo.

Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect.

Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.


You know it's possible to have a civil debate without telling the person to "shut the fuck up" for no good reason


Not if he's twisting your argument into something completely irrelevent and then repeating the same flawed logic after Idra tried to actually explain what he was saying again. Avilo needed to go, and definitely in a more respectful manner, but he wasn't bringing anything insightful to the discussion at all, and actually doing the opposite.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 29 2012 03:19 GMT
#47620
On June 29 2012 12:17 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 12:17 itmeJP wrote:
Unfortunately, that happened. Sorry to IdrA and Avilo for creating that situation. I had no idea that was going to happen and I wished it didn't looking back. I was unaware of their past.

In regards to the 'bullying' I don't know really anything about Avilo so when I asked him if that was him, it was a sincere question, not a joke. The reason I cut him off abruptly is because it was going downhill very quickly. It was a brash decision but one I stand by. I instantly messaged him afterwards to apologize for having to do that.

VOD processing, MP3 up -- http://sotg-sc2.blogspot.com/2012/06/sotg-ep72.html

Good. This is the kind of response I'd hope you'd give.

Idra and Incontrol, however, have more explaining to do.


I don't think idra has to explain shit. He didn't want to talk to avilo and made it clear.
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