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On June 29 2012 12:03 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:00 Jinsho wrote:
Really JP? You bring this avilo guy on, who has no credentials, no skill, no results anywhere all, and let him talk? Was that segment supposed to be a joke? Did you want to fuel sweet reddit drama?
How can anyone play Terran and not facepalm because this fool was chosen to be their representative where dozen others would have been able to a better job? This was embarassingly bad JP, and you are the cause for this, because you provided him a platform for people to laugh at.
Have some standards please and say "no" to clowns like him. newsflash, nobody on state of the game has any results or skill. They have all fallen off the map and is more of an entertaining entity now. Maybe if they spend more time playing sc2 they might have better results. I mean, I just saw huk, demuslim and bunch of other pros walking around chatting. I have a good feeling puma is the only one there actually going full force at practicing
OMG, they talk to eachother!? With this trifecta of talking, girls and pets foreigners will never catch up to Koreans.
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On June 29 2012 12:09 Vekalisk wrote:
Community wants him on knowing full well what will happen and gets angry when he gets exactly what everyone knew would happen. Pretty fucking typical.
my thoughts everyone spamming threads twitters and chats to bring him on knowing what will happen then get all pissing when it does sad...
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On June 29 2012 12:08 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:03 iky43210 wrote:On June 29 2012 12:00 Jinsho wrote:
Really JP? You bring this avilo guy on, who has no credentials, no skill, no results anywhere all, and let him talk? Was that segment supposed to be a joke? Did you want to fuel sweet reddit drama?
How can anyone play Terran and not facepalm because this fool was chosen to be their representative where dozen others would have been able to a better job? This was embarassingly bad JP, and you are the cause for this, because you provided him a platform for people to laugh at.
Have some standards please and say "no" to clowns like him. newsflash, nobody on state of the game has any results or skill. They have all fallen off the map and is more of an entertaining entity now. Maybe if they spend more time playing sc2 they might have better results. I mean, I just saw huk, demuslim and bunch of other pros walking around chatting. I have a good feeling puma is the only one there actually going full force at practicing OH MY FUCKING GOD THEY TALKED TO EACHOTHER IN THE TEAMHOUSE?! Even though none of them are really having any success or results in the game they can still talk balance, wtf are you talking about? Idra doesn't really do well atm, but he's a really smart guy and what he says about balance isn't complete utter bullshit as you want it to be. Same goes for QXC.
maybe you should read into the context before going off on a paragraph while saying absoutely nothing about anything.
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JP falling for screamer
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I'm enjoying this so much, please everyone, continue to rage over something minuscule which will be forgotten tomorrow.
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On June 29 2012 12:12 mojoface wrote:JP falling for screamer
lol he handled it a bit better then wheat did, god I love you Huk for your trolls
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On June 29 2012 12:12 Megaliskuu wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I'm enjoying this so much, please everyone, continue to rage over something minuscule which will be forgotten tomorrow.
tastier drama then maury
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On June 29 2012 12:10 FluiDMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:05 Shaddar wrote:On June 29 2012 12:01 Dodgin wrote:
I don't know about you guys but I'm much more disappointed at incontrol basically teaming up with idra and acting as his enabler, It's obvious Idra never wanted to talk to Avilo in the first place and he should not have been forced into the situation. JP should not have brought on Avilo.
But Incontrol your behavior is actually just fucking disgusting, I thought you were better than that.
This show proved a few things to me:
QXC is a smart guy and can debate well, Idra can debate well if he's not angry.
JP listens to the stream chat when he shouldn't
QXC and Nony are extremely respectful guys.
Incontrol, despite how he acts like a nice guy at events he casts and hosts, can be a pretty big bully. I completely agree with this post, very well said I agree with this post too
I'm glad to see that others are recognizing Incontrol's bullying behavior. He can be pretty slick when it comes to making it look like he's the nice guy.
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On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great. Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished. They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion. At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine). Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo. Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect. Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.
Nailed it. Agreed with all THIS stated above
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Guys, I think I've figured it out. Take everyone who is actually insulted by JP cutting off Avilo when Avilo had literally zero intelligent or relevant things to say.
Now see how many are Terran.
If the results are any less than 70% I'll eat my computer.
The mix of TvZ butthurt, the fact that it's the SOTG thread (so no one can actually make sense), and that it was Idra have made this thread a veritable shit storm.
Time to leave gentlemen. Itsmedudeman put it best: Unstoppable force meets immovable object.
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On June 29 2012 12:11 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:08 Aocowns wrote:On June 29 2012 12:03 iky43210 wrote:On June 29 2012 12:00 Jinsho wrote:
Really JP? You bring this avilo guy on, who has no credentials, no skill, no results anywhere all, and let him talk? Was that segment supposed to be a joke? Did you want to fuel sweet reddit drama?
How can anyone play Terran and not facepalm because this fool was chosen to be their representative where dozen others would have been able to a better job? This was embarassingly bad JP, and you are the cause for this, because you provided him a platform for people to laugh at.
Have some standards please and say "no" to clowns like him. newsflash, nobody on state of the game has any results or skill. They have all fallen off the map and is more of an entertaining entity now. Maybe if they spend more time playing sc2 they might have better results. I mean, I just saw huk, demuslim and bunch of other pros walking around chatting. I have a good feeling puma is the only one there actually going full force at practicing OH MY FUCKING GOD THEY TALKED TO EACHOTHER IN THE TEAMHOUSE?! Even though none of them are really having any success or results in the game they can still talk balance, wtf are you talking about? Idra doesn't really do well atm, but he's a really smart guy and what he says about balance isn't complete utter bullshit as you want it to be. Same goes for QXC. maybe you should read into the context before going off on a paragraph while saying absoutely nothing about anything.
err, it was a bad response to the part where he said they weren't good for anything but entertainment
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Let's be honest though, Avilo was going to get on the show eventually and this would inevitably happen. Today was the day.
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On June 29 2012 12:11 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:06 PanN wrote:On June 29 2012 12:00 Arkansassy wrote:On June 29 2012 11:50 PanN wrote:On June 29 2012 11:48 Arkansassy wrote:
It's apparent now that the only reason Incontrol wanted to call avilo was so they could ridicule him. He even started before avilo got on. Avilo had some pertinent points to make and they continually cut him off and were down right rude, but I didn't expect anything else from them.
That picture they put up was avilo when he was 13 and that, too, was just put there to make fun of him. Nice going guys!
Idra said: "i was quiet and let him finish his point, the moment i started talking he started yelling over me and saying i agreed with him when i quite explicitly didnt. hes a fucking imbecile and has no place in anything serious in the community and jp's a piece of shit for bringing him on the show.
@Idra, how can you lie when people were actually watching? Avilo never once raised his voice and he said, "I agree with what Idra said about..." and tried to explain, but your hatred didn't hear that.so you told him to STFU. Very mature of you.
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh look its someone making up shit for fun. JP put the picture up, he asked avilo if its actually him or not because he had no idea. How can you purposefully pick a picture that is bad of someone if you're not sure its them in the first place? Stop makin stuff up thanks man. lol... apparently you don't have reading comprehension duh. try again. You said they chose the picture just to make fun of him, I told you different. Why exactly is my reading comprehension failing atm? Apparently they'd have had to do some pretty deep digging to find that picture of him. The fact that they dug it up from the depths of the internet suggests that they were looking for dirt. It's actually kind of creepy, and certainly doesn't speak well for SOTG
It's the first friggin picture in google 
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On June 29 2012 12:11 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:06 PanN wrote:On June 29 2012 12:00 Arkansassy wrote:On June 29 2012 11:50 PanN wrote:On June 29 2012 11:48 Arkansassy wrote:
It's apparent now that the only reason Incontrol wanted to call avilo was so they could ridicule him. He even started before avilo got on. Avilo had some pertinent points to make and they continually cut him off and were down right rude, but I didn't expect anything else from them.
That picture they put up was avilo when he was 13 and that, too, was just put there to make fun of him. Nice going guys!
Idra said: "i was quiet and let him finish his point, the moment i started talking he started yelling over me and saying i agreed with him when i quite explicitly didnt. hes a fucking imbecile and has no place in anything serious in the community and jp's a piece of shit for bringing him on the show.
@Idra, how can you lie when people were actually watching? Avilo never once raised his voice and he said, "I agree with what Idra said about..." and tried to explain, but your hatred didn't hear that.so you told him to STFU. Very mature of you.
All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh look its someone making up shit for fun. JP put the picture up, he asked avilo if its actually him or not because he had no idea. How can you purposefully pick a picture that is bad of someone if you're not sure its them in the first place? Stop makin stuff up thanks man. lol... apparently you don't have reading comprehension duh. try again. You said they chose the picture just to make fun of him, I told you different. Why exactly is my reading comprehension failing atm? Apparently they'd have had to do some pretty deep digging to find that picture of him. The fact that they dug it up from the depths of the internet suggests that they were looking for dirt. It's actually kind of creepy, and certainly doesn't speak well for SOTG
It's actually the FIRST google image result when you google "avilo sc2" you should probably do a tiny bit of research before you say stupid things.
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On June 29 2012 12:10 FluiDMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:05 Shaddar wrote:On June 29 2012 12:01 Dodgin wrote:
I don't know about you guys but I'm much more disappointed at incontrol basically teaming up with idra and acting as his enabler, It's obvious Idra never wanted to talk to Avilo in the first place and he should not have been forced into the situation. JP should not have brought on Avilo.
But Incontrol your behavior is actually just fucking disgusting, I thought you were better than that.
This show proved a few things to me:
QXC is a smart guy and can debate well, Idra can debate well if he's not angry.
JP listens to the stream chat when he shouldn't
QXC and Nony are extremely respectful guys.
Incontrol, despite how he acts like a nice guy at events he casts and hosts, can be a pretty big bully. I completely agree with this post, very well said I agree with this post too
This
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On June 29 2012 11:32 solidONE wrote:
in a business sense, moving away from a successful model is actually logical in some circumstances. it's a forsight in the fact that it's probably not sustainable, however it's been successful for the amount of time it's been done for. you get the numbers as well.
also the TvZ discussion was the most fluff bullshit i've ever heard. I fucking despise when scenarios at X time in the game are discussed with absolutely no context in what events led up to that. Brood War was only balanced because people did brilliantly executed strategies to prevent those situations from occurring. On Heartbreak Ridge, you can have tanks on the high ground and shut down zerg. You can quantify this by saying "wow terran just needs to make fucking siege tanks and you can't win". The true beauty was circumventing that scenario entirely by playing in a manner which denied that. These balance discussions where you take a random measurement of upgrades and units at X time and make them clash hypothetically doesn't mean shit. This isn't targeted at the SotG cast either really I'm saying that generally because it's a plague amongst the community right now when attempting to discuss balance.
Well if it could be balanced because players made it balanced, was the range buff really necessary? Nerfing terran over and over again is easy because of P and Z whine bandwagons, it's all k. But when T jumps on the whine train, tired of all those nerfs, NO! Terrans must find their way out, they've been using the same builds since beta(which is totally untrue). As far as the TvZ match up is concerned, the queen range totally broke the match up and was unnecessary.
SORRY FOR BALANCE WHINING BUT HAD TO BE SAID.
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On June 29 2012 12:11 MiX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:03 iky43210 wrote:On June 29 2012 12:00 Jinsho wrote:
Really JP? You bring this avilo guy on, who has no credentials, no skill, no results anywhere all, and let him talk? Was that segment supposed to be a joke? Did you want to fuel sweet reddit drama?
How can anyone play Terran and not facepalm because this fool was chosen to be their representative where dozen others would have been able to a better job? This was embarassingly bad JP, and you are the cause for this, because you provided him a platform for people to laugh at.
Have some standards please and say "no" to clowns like him. newsflash, nobody on state of the game has any results or skill. They have all fallen off the map and is more of an entertaining entity now. Maybe if they spend more time playing sc2 they might have better results. I mean, I just saw huk, demuslim and bunch of other pros walking around chatting. I have a good feeling puma is the only one there actually going full force at practicing OMG, they talk to eachother!? With this trifecta of talking, girls and pets foreigners will never catch up to Koreans.
Nononono, those are the three vices all foreign progamers are weak to! If they indulge in talking, girls, or even..... pets *gasp*, we might as well just give up all hope!
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On June 29 2012 12:10 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 12:04 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
Can anyone give a summary of what happened? That would be really great. Basically iNcontroL suggested they bring Avilo on for TvZ discussion after QXC vs IdrA finished. They bring him on eventually, and Avilo starts by asking iNcontroL about why he is so mean to him, but iNcontroL says to keep it focused on the balance discussion. At this point it is entirely between IdrA and Avilo. Avilo brings up some points, and IdrA responds to them. Then Avilo makes some comment about how LuckyFool made a point on something. IdrA responds with a condescending remark along the lines of "I guess I haven't been keeping up with LuckyFool's blog recently." Avilo then says something along the lines of "Some people who aren't as well known actually have good things to say in this community" obviously in a frustrated manner as he was clearly referring to himself (among others, I imagine). Then Avilo rants for awhile longer. IdrA goes to respond and Avilo says "HEY HEY HEY" over him. Geoff interjects and asks Avilo to let IdrA finish since IdrA was calm and quiet while Avilo spoke. The debate went on and Avilo tried to make it sound like IdrA was agreeing with him while he (Avilo) used some flawed logic and claimed to quote what IdrA was saying, when he wasn't. IdrA got angry and told him to STFU. JP hung up on the call with Avilo. Basically, it was pretty much what you would expect. I'm sure I forgot some details, but essentially Avilo came on to argue with IdrA, and IdrA lashed out as anyone would expect. Now everyone in this thread is treating it like the biggest fucking crime on the planet, and complaining about how terrible it was.
best post in the thread so far
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On June 29 2012 12:12 Megaliskuu wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I'm enjoying this so much, please everyone, continue to rage over something minuscule which will be forgotten tomorrow.
chalk it up to tales of principled behavior but some of us react instinctively against bullying. this is a good thing.
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LOLOLOL
idra regularly tracking Luckyfools blog 
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EPT
