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Takeodesu
Profile Joined November 2009
United States21 Posts
November 10 2010 07:49 GMT
#4121
RSS not working =(
If you wait till the last minute it will only take a minute
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 10 2010 08:03 GMT
#4122
Here's the replay for the game iNcontroL is talking about btw.

iNcontroL vs drewbie (Game 3): http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/102796-1v1-terran-protoss-metalopolis
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 10 2010 08:15 GMT
#4123
On November 10 2010 16:34 itmeJP wrote:
Here ya go. Its 2h25m long or something.

SotG - 11.9.10 // FileFront


and only 65mb, awesome

thx JP!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 10 2010 08:19 GMT
#4124
IdrA: "And I lost because I played bad."

There you go, IdrA-haters, he doesn't always blame other people or imbalance.
hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
November 10 2010 08:20 GMT
#4125
thanks jp, but is it possible to get a higher bitrate version? This is currently running at 64kbs, and I would really like a 128kbs version, perhaps if it was the one on filefront. I can really hear the difference, lol
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 10 2010 08:23 GMT
#4126
On November 10 2010 17:19 dcemuser wrote:
IdrA: "And I lost because I played bad."

There you go, IdrA-haters, he doesn't always blame other people or imbalance.


He was obviously whining and saying that IdrA needs to be buffed.
whatsgrackalackin420
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
November 10 2010 08:27 GMT
#4127
On November 10 2010 16:34 itmeJP wrote:
Here ya go. Its 2h25m long or something.

SotG - 11.9.10 // FileFront


Thanks JP! I'm sure it will be good this week!!!
Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
November 10 2010 08:44 GMT
#4128
Thanks JP! Always nice to have a good long show to listen to during work. Filefront mirror is fast as well, thanks.
Salvarias
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark231 Posts
November 10 2010 08:48 GMT
#4129
incontrol talked about some interviews his girlfriend had made ? or was it off her, anyways he said they should be on TL ? anyone know where ?
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 10 2010 08:48 GMT
#4130
@Tyler: A point that was not brought up on the cast against your argument is the LUCK it introduces into the tournament.

You're right, it improves the accuracy slightly. However, it also just straight out SUCKS for the players it happens to (as you know), so it is heavily, heavily luck-based.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 10 2010 08:49 GMT
#4131
On November 10 2010 17:48 Salvarias wrote:
incontrol talked about some interviews his girlfriend had made ? or was it off her, anyways he said they should be on TL ? anyone know where ?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167894
GriNn
Profile Joined September 2010
United States243 Posts
November 10 2010 08:49 GMT
#4132
"And a rocket launcher", lmfao first time i've had a good laugh because of Idra. Goddamn that was funny
Liquid`Tyler: I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok.
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 08:55:40
November 10 2010 08:51 GMT
#4133
Top 16 @ MLG .. a few matches were forfeits or coin flips from 9-16.

1. Liquid`Jinro
2. FnaticTTOne
3. Pain.User
4. Liquid`Tyler
5. Liquid`TLO
6. EG.Machine
7. Liquid`Ret
8. ROOT.Drewbie
9. LiquidHuK
10. ROOT KiwiKaki
11. Dignitas SeleCT
12. ROOT SLusH
13. ROOTqxc
14. EGiNka
15. EGiNcontroL
16. aTn Socke
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 08:53:11
November 10 2010 08:52 GMT
#4134
misspost
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
November 10 2010 08:59 GMT
#4135
To math nerd it out:

Strictly, if you treat every match as a coin-flip, Day9 is correct that in order for the "best" player to win guaranteed you would have to play Best of Infinity at every stage. However, NonY's argument actually holds, unless you absolutely refuse to grant that a tournament is attempting to create some kind of ranking list.

If you don't, it is demonstrably true that if, say, you run a thousand single-elim tournaments and a thousand double-elim tournaments with the same players, and then rank the players based on their scores from each set of tournaments on a separate ranking, the double-elim set will (in all likelihood, but not guaranteed) result in a ranking list that looks more like the "true" ranking list (which is unknown).

I haven't thought about it enough to say for sure that the extended series rule will similarly outperform a double-elim tournament without the rule on average, but it seems intuitively like it would, which is (I think) the purpose.

I might attempt a proper proof of this tommorow, but there you go.
Like a G6
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 09:04:44
November 10 2010 09:04 GMT
#4136
On November 10 2010 17:59 kzn wrote:
To math nerd it out:

Strictly, if you treat every match as a coin-flip, Day9 is correct that in order for the "best" player to win guaranteed you would have to play Best of Infinity at every stage. However, NonY's argument actually holds, unless you absolutely refuse to grant that a tournament is attempting to create some kind of ranking list.

If you don't, it is demonstrably true that if, say, you run a thousand single-elim tournaments and a thousand double-elim tournaments with the same players, and then rank the players based on their scores from each set of tournaments on a separate ranking, the double-elim set will (in all likelihood, but not guaranteed) result in a ranking list that looks more like the "true" ranking list (which is unknown).

I haven't thought about it enough to say for sure that the extended series rule will similarly outperform a double-elim tournament without the rule on average, but it seems intuitively like it would, which is (I think) the purpose.

I might attempt a proper proof of this tommorow, but there you go.


Make sure to account for the horrible luck it adds into the tournament.
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
November 10 2010 09:05 GMT
#4137
On November 10 2010 18:04 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 17:59 kzn wrote:
To math nerd it out:

Strictly, if you treat every match as a coin-flip, Day9 is correct that in order for the "best" player to win guaranteed you would have to play Best of Infinity at every stage. However, NonY's argument actually holds, unless you absolutely refuse to grant that a tournament is attempting to create some kind of ranking list.

If you don't, it is demonstrably true that if, say, you run a thousand single-elim tournaments and a thousand double-elim tournaments with the same players, and then rank the players based on their scores from each set of tournaments on a separate ranking, the double-elim set will (in all likelihood, but not guaranteed) result in a ranking list that looks more like the "true" ranking list (which is unknown).

I haven't thought about it enough to say for sure that the extended series rule will similarly outperform a double-elim tournament without the rule on average, but it seems intuitively like it would, which is (I think) the purpose.

I might attempt a proper proof of this tommorow, but there you go.


Make sure to account for the horrible luck it adds into the tournament.


I still don't actually understand the argument on this so far, although I'm guessing its based on the fact that match orders (or something of that sort) can remove or create an advantage for a player compared to a different order with the same overall result.

Which isn't actually relevant to my claim, or NonY's argument.
Like a G6
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 10 2010 09:06 GMT
#4138
for reference about Sen's "complain video" i think you guys are taking it too seriously

"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
November 10 2010 09:06 GMT
#4139
about extended series-

i still think that the advantage for the winner is already there without this rule. he gets to play someone that he already proved he could beat, so essentially, if he's really better than the other person then it's almost like getting a bye.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
November 10 2010 09:10 GMT
#4140
15 seconds of silence fail incontrol t.t
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