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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
● The players are allowed a 5 minute break between the games in a tournament match. This might also be forced due to streaming production requirements. http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf wrap up of the previous game, commercial break, intro to next game. so no problem. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:37 SCST wrote: @Idra you are a player in someone else's tournament, playing to win money provided by someone else. Respect their rules and respect their employees or go play somewhere else. Tournaments and Sponsors are going to make it that simple. You can bitch and whine all day long about it, but you are not in charge. Unbelievable that anyone would be so selfish and egotistical. I hope that players like Idra and Naniwa test a major tournament on being rude and get banned and lose any change at a prize. They need to made an example of. Players dont make money regardless if they cant focus on actually playing the game. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:37 Forikorder wrote: i think it was on inside the game but i think it was idra who said tehy should ahve some little gadget that does off when a player has to play so you arent say... watching a teamate play while being called for your consolation match and miss it MLG is simply too huge they need some sort of filtering process so they dont ahve 250+ people all trying to paly at the same time That's exactly the kind of thing MLG should be looking at to improve the player experience. That would reduce their frustration and they would stop being so rude to casters. Basically, it's the events' fault for being disorganized and if they just do things like this to smooth out the player experience, everyone will be happier. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:37 SCST wrote: @Idra you are a player in someone else's tournament, playing to win money provided by someone else. Respect their rules and respect their employees or go play somewhere else. Tournaments and Sponsors are going to make it that simple. You can bitch and whine all day long about it, but you are not in charge. Unbelievable that anyone would be so selfish and egotistical. I hope that players like Idra and Naniwa test a major tournament on being rude and get banned and lose any chance at a prize. It might be entertaining to see these players bad-mouth and verbally attack people occasionally, but if Starcraft 2 is going to grow then it needs to end. They need to made an example of. lol? So him wanting to be able to play his best is selfish and egotistical? I'll remember that. You are right about one thing, the players are not in charge. The tournaments are. However, if a tournament is run smoothly and specific time constraints and good communication is employed then there will be no problems. That is on the part of the tournament, not the players. | ||
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Kamikazess
Brazil400 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:39 Zzoram wrote: That's exactly the kind of thing MLG should be looking at to improve the player experience. That would reduce their frustration and they would stop being so rude to casters. Basically, it's the events' fault for being disorganized and if they just do things like this to smooth out the player experience, everyone will be happier. the main problem is the tournament is jsut too huge, 250+ palyers, 100k people in tehre buildings watching, plus all there employees and tech support and all that | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:37 Serpico wrote: Players dont make money regardless if they cant focus on actually playing the game. Tournaments should do their best to help players put on a good show. However, there is a very simple solution for players who bitch about their tournament not being a perfect experience: don't play in tournaments. Unless your conditions at the tournament are different than the conditions set for other players, you have no advantage or disadvantage in your game. Everyone is experiencing the same thing. You don't see pro football players bitching and whining "waaa it's too cold in the stadium turn up the heat because I might get hurt waaa". No, they play the game because BOTH sides are experiencing the same conditions. And they NEVER bitch about tournament conditions. Ever. | ||
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Dozle
Canada147 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:41 SCST wrote: Tournaments should do their best to help players put on a good show. However, there is a very simple solution for players who bitch about their tournament not being a perfect experience: don't play in tournaments. Unless your conditions at the tournament are different than the conditions set for other players, you have no advantage or disadvantage in your game. Everyone is experiencing the same thing. You don't see pro football players bitching and whining "waaa it's too cold in the stadium turn up the heat because I might get hurt waaa". No, they play the game because BOTH sides are experiencing the same conditions. Umm, traditional sports except basketball/volleyball etc have almost always been built around having weather being an element into play since their creation. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:40 Kamikazess wrote: Everyone knows that tournaments isn't the main source of income to the players. Streaming and of course team support+sponsors is what keep these guys playing. Travel expenses, gaming houses, everything is paid by the teams, and every player is in a team, either a big or a small one. So, as Artosis said, the teams of these problematic players must handle this problem, because they're the main investors, and the biggest losers. there are very few palyers who are really sitting on a nice salary, your making it sound like every SC2 player is riding the gravy train with biscuit wheels but alot of them are depending on getting good results to pull through | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:41 Dozle wrote: This makes me hate artosis even more then I used to back in the SC2 Beta days Why? He's just saying don't be rude to casters because the tournament isn't organized well. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:37 SCST wrote: @Idra you are a player in someone else's tournament, playing to win money provided by someone else. Respect their rules and respect their employees or go play somewhere else. Tournaments and Sponsors are going to make it that simple. You can bitch and whine all day long about it, but you are not in charge. Unbelievable that anyone would be so selfish and egotistical. I hope that players like Idra and Naniwa test a major tournament on being rude and get banned and lose any chance at a prize. It might be entertaining to see these players bad-mouth and verbally attack people occasionally, but if Starcraft 2 is going to grow then it needs to end. They need to made an example of. Its the players who make the tournaments. Tournaments rely on players just as much as players rely on tournaments, idra's points are fair. | ||
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Grettin
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Kamikazess
Brazil400 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:42 Forikorder wrote: there are very few palyers who are really sitting on a nice salary, your making it sound like every SC2 player is riding the gravy train with biscuit wheels but alot of them are depending on getting good results to pull through I didn't say that everyone is rich. I said that players are supported by their teams, not their results. Only the top of the top, a select group, wins tournaments. The vast majority keep playing, keep traveling, without winning anything. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
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Techno
1900 Posts
Emulate Ryan Davis from The Bombcast or Garnet Lee from Weekend Confirmed. The conversation on SOTG is always so awkward and no one knows when to talk. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:44 Kamikazess wrote: I didn't say that everyone is rich. I said that players are supported by their teams, not their results. Only the top of the top, a select group, wins tournaments. The vast majority keep playing, keep traveling, without winning anything. alot of the big tournaments offer prize to the top 16/32/64 (i think IPL3 gave 1000 to everyone in the Ro64) and there are alot of smaller tournaments too like the playhem dailies that they go to its not a player can get on a team get no results off nothing back and be on the team for long especially with only a few foreign teams actually ahving a team house for them to live in | ||
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