EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1824
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blooblooblahblah
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Daray
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I am going to watch the finals though for sure. | ||
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FortyOzs
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On November 30 2011 14:46 IdrA wrote: both casters and players are important, the biggest casters and the biggest players are nearly essential for a tournament that wants success on the scale of an mlg/ipl/dreamhack. but players roles around game time tend to be far more sensitive, especially among the biggest players like me, huk, naniwa. and thats not a coincidence. if you're not very on edge and emotionally invested in the game you're not gonna be that good. players have a lot more to lose from these problems and as the players performance is important to the tournament they should be babied. I agree, I think we should treat you like a little kid because that's what you act like. It doesn't take a lot of effort to not be a dick. User was warned for this post | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:50 MrCon wrote: About nasl, I'm not sure it's the oversaturation. I mean, we have GSL 5 days a week (well, 4 days now, but it was 7 days at one point), and I'd never miss a GSL if I'm in front of my computer while it's broadcasted, whil sometimes even if the nasl is live, I won't even open the stream. I think it's a mix of not live and all games not that important. 2 weeks old games can also lead to outdated strategies. When I watch GSL I know that I'll see what modern starcraft is about. And I want to know which player is in form now and not a month ago like someone said rightly. Check man, we are most likely the two french watching GSL at 7 am. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:52 I_Love_Bacon wrote: The GSL having a better group of players and live games allows for the oversaturation. They're in different scenarios because they have people in booths and live events every day possible. plus GSL people get knocked out every day in NASL theres always a few matchs where its "who this player has already clinched his finals spot" or "well this player cant get in the playoffs to get a finals spot" and its like "well why am i watching it then? | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:48 Forikorder wrote: you havent sat in the booth and been in there shoes so dont try to pretend youve walked a mile in them No, I don't have to be in a booth to know that I would never be a bitch to other human being because of my own emotional shortcomings. Again making excuses for a handful of immature, emotionally unstable players that happen to be talented. There are plenty of other players that are talented that don't act that way. It's like saying Football wouldn't exist without the few bitchy cancer players that plague the league. Yes it would. I've played sports all my life, and I've been frustrated lots of times. Sometimes games get delayed, sometimes you lose even though you shouldn't. I don't go verbally assault someone or a ref because I'm pissed off though. Some players can't control themselves, but they get carded or penalized or ejected, sometimes banned permanently from the sport and they deserved it. Can't be professional or humble, GTFO of the tournament. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:54 gogogadgetflow wrote: Morrow is playing terran in all 3 matchups now accoriding to moletrap on gsl earlier last night I wouldn't take Moletrap's word as law, especially since the MorroW to GSL announcement said he's playing Zerg but TvZ. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:54 FortyOzs wrote: I agree, I think we should treat you like a little kid because that's what you act like. It doesn't take a lot of effort to not be a dick. irony. lol. | ||
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Grettin
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Sphen5117
United States413 Posts
Let's compare some sports In football, if you watch through one particular channel for it, say ESPN, you will often see the same lineup of casters, casting all teams, just like SC2, right? Except, the reason the teams and players stay much much more of the focus even with the casters having so much face time, is because there's simply more exposure to the casters and there is just more of the actual sport going on. There's always a higlight reel going on, or some other game that can be switched to, since each game is hours long. You could honestly compare the amount of face time given to SC2 casters to commentators for other sports like Football (american football is what I am referencing). But those sports have MUCH MUCH more content of the actual competitors right now. This will be remedied more as the sport of SC2 grows, as there are larger events, more events that are respected, and more prestigious events, as well as more players playing at a top level. This is also facilitated by the idea of perhaps SC2 getting onto TV someday for example. For SC2 to be on TV, we would need MUCH actual game content, not less caster content. I absolutely LOVE Artosis, Tasteless, Day9, Husk, and the nice list of other casters ranging from TotalBiscuit to CatzPajamas, but I am also so terribly sad at the searching I must do sometimes to find games from Idra, Incontrol, Sheth, Boxer, MC, etc. The current setup with casters right now is amazing, they're all pretty much doing they're job as great as can be done at this stage in SC2's timeline. What the competitive scene is lacking is flat out MORE GAMES. This can be achieved many ways, all of which feed off each other: More sponsors facilitating events and leagues, more players playing at a top level, more events doing everything they can to make their first place prize MEAN something more than just dollars. Hell, even the social side of players possibly letting their stories be put out there will bridge the gap. Don't blame the casters for perhaps this "drama" that might be arising about the differences between them and their treatment and players. It's not really the fault of either so much as a sad consequence of the sport being very much still in it's infancy. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:54 gogogadgetflow wrote: Morrow is playing terran in all 3 matchups now accoriding to moletrap on gsl earlier last night Morrow's post today says incorrect  .+ Show Spoiler + On November 30 2011 14:13 MorroW wrote: tnx for all positive feedback  i will try my best to use the time well here and improveafter these 3 months (or however long it actually will be) i might just go back to korea very shortly after once again. korea is a long term plan for me and i dont see this as just "being in korea a while to gain some skill" the reason they told me why i get the code a invite (if i remember correctly) is because of all my achievements during my sc2 time. last time i was in korea for world championship they said they would gladly invite me to code a then too if i would have stayed im one who really hate people getting invites out of being foreigner or have fans but they gave me the invite because of my achievements in sc2 so far i wont go in to why i race pick since i told the community a million times but yes. all tournaments i know, this day, allows my race picking. i will always tvz zvt zvp, there wont be certain players or rounds or tournaments where i just randomly pick another matchup to throw my opponents off. also if im up vs a random player ill gladly pick zerg since only 33% zvz and even if it is zvz i have much more experience than the random player in this matchup lol. so stop with the theoretical bullshit please theres no specific thing about me going 10 days before nasl to korea. i expected to be in korea alot sooner but finding a team and preparing everything was extremely much work for me t.t so then team said, nasl is close, either wait after nasl then go to korea or go asap. and i wanted to just go asap because the last 2-3 weeks i was just rolling my thumbs waiting eagerly to go about nshs mouz "partnership". there is none, i just become friends with the team, and with contacts i got myself to this team, mouz took no part in it. (they did help with other things ofcourse tho im just saying there is no partnership, nshs is just being friendly). and the thing about 2 racepickers meeting each other. you are talking about a scenario that doesnt exist atm. nobody else but me is doing this, comon now. i talked to many progamers during my sc2 time who wanted to change races, but didnt have the balls or the motivation to give up their skill to start over. its not like theres suddenly gonna appear more race pickers now just because gsl allows this IMO they could just make a simple flip-a-coin rule if 2 race pickers meet each other of who play zvt and who play tvz, i dont see the problem at all lol http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=290143¤tpage=21 | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:54 gogogadgetflow wrote: Morrow is playing terran in all 3 matchups now accoriding to moletrap on gsl earlier last night I don't think so, he just posted on TL a long post in his korean thread, like 1 hour ago. (page around 20 or 23) | ||
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Chrian
United States1472 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:56 Grettin wrote: LOL. Sheth vs Incontrol, taking EU/NA sides! Honestly Tyler's "You know where he's from, right?" was all that needed to be said. Tyler is a funny fuckin dude. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:55 SCST wrote: No, I don't have to be in a booth to know that I would never be a bitch to other human being because of my own emotional shortcomings. Again making excuses for a handful of immature, emotionally unstable players that happen to be talented. There are plenty of other players that are talented that don't act that way. It's like saying Football wouldn't exist without the few bitchy cancer players that plague the league. Yes it would. were you born in like the sunshine land of happiness and rainbow with parents who perfectly understood you and never fought who sent you to your school (which you got to drive there in your super confy bus downhill both ways) where you went to your class where everyone is friends and noone said anything bad and everyone had there happy lessons then enjoyed some perfectly nutritious and deliecious lunch? i mean have you never been angry or stressed ever in your life? | ||
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Little-Chimp
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Slakkoo
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Grettin
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dat EG house joke. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 30 2011 14:58 Chrian wrote: Honestly Tyler's "You know where he's from, right?" was all that needed to be said. Tyler is a funny fuckin dude. Yeah, Tyler was fun, the rest was just too much. Sheth did not know all the jokes around EU players. | ||
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Dozle
Canada147 Posts
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