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Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
October 26 2011 19:03 GMT
#34561
Hey guys, I've started a suggestion to have fast access to the VoDs on MLG.tv. We used to get em' at 11 am when it was on blip.tv. Anyways, give it some votes and they might listen so we can get our fix ASAP on wednesday mornings...

http://feedback.majorleaguegaming.com/forums/116517-mlg-tv-feedback-forum/suggestions/2345955-make-the-videos-accessible-more-quickly-
For Aïur?
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
October 26 2011 19:09 GMT
#34562
I'm pretty sure the reason Incontrol hated so many of the units was because he wasn't at blizzcon. Looking at a broken unit and playing with a broken unit are very different things. He probably would have liked more of them if he could actually build them and understand how they worked in an actual game.

Or maybe he just really doesn't like most of them.
bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
October 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#34563
anyone got a link to that blizzcon crowd shot?
canilsen
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway286 Posts
October 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#34564
On October 27 2011 04:03 Panthae wrote:
Hey guys, I've started a suggestion to have fast access to the VoDs on MLG.tv. We used to get em' at 11 am when it was on blip.tv. Anyways, give it some votes and they might listen so we can get our fix ASAP on wednesday mornings...

http://feedback.majorleaguegaming.com/forums/116517-mlg-tv-feedback-forum/suggestions/2345955-make-the-videos-accessible-more-quickly-

3 votes from me!

So, I heard last episode was good. Cool to wait 4 days for it to be uploaded :\
(and yes, I do prefer the video over .mp3)
when I am king you will be first against the wall
TideRoll
Profile Joined September 2011
United States106 Posts
October 26 2011 19:50 GMT
#34565
On October 27 2011 04:35 bLooD. wrote:
anyone got a link to that blizzcon crowd shot?


http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=2e88d822-11d7-4630-9916-189e255c42e3

Awesome show as always!

I had never even heard of that ESEA tournament and I watch a lot of SC2... now I know why. They did EG dirty.
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
October 26 2011 19:55 GMT
#34566
I just have to say that was the most disgusting SOTG I've seen.. the images of the whatever phobia was just sick.. Just a heads up for people who haven't watched it..
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 26 2011 19:55 GMT
#34567
On October 27 2011 04:50 TideRoll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 04:35 bLooD. wrote:
anyone got a link to that blizzcon crowd shot?


http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=2e88d822-11d7-4630-9916-189e255c42e3

Awesome show as always!

I had never even heard of that ESEA tournament and I watch a lot of SC2... now I know why. They did EG dirty.

The only times I heard of ESEA's sc2 team league was when iNcontroL tweeted about how EG did in it. I looked at the thread Geoff talked about... Man ESEA really needs to get their shit together.
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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
October 26 2011 20:25 GMT
#34568
Wow never heard artosis being so biased LOL
Great episode tho, really funny:D
no dude, the question
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 26 2011 20:36 GMT
#34569
On October 27 2011 04:03 Panthae wrote:
Hey guys, I've started a suggestion to have fast access to the VoDs on MLG.tv. We used to get em' at 11 am when it was on blip.tv. Anyways, give it some votes and they might listen so we can get our fix ASAP on wednesday mornings...

http://feedback.majorleaguegaming.com/forums/116517-mlg-tv-feedback-forum/suggestions/2345955-make-the-videos-accessible-more-quickly-

It won't happen. They actively have to disable that function (not something you turn on). So someone decided, at some point, that they wanted the traffic on MLGs site for anyone to watch the VODs.

This probably won't change.

Supporting either way.. hope it does happen.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
October 26 2011 20:40 GMT
#34570
Can somebody please link me to the thread iNcontroL was talking about, the one about a team tourney that EG was walked over? I didn't catch the name of the tournament and I dunno at what time they talk about it.
TideRoll
Profile Joined September 2011
United States106 Posts
October 26 2011 20:43 GMT
#34571
On October 27 2011 05:40 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Can somebody please link me to the thread iNcontroL was talking about, the one about a team tourney that EG was walked over? I didn't catch the name of the tournament and I dunno at what time they talk about it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274326
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 26 2011 20:53 GMT
#34572
On October 27 2011 03:46 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 03:35 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On October 27 2011 03:21 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
so i just listened to the whole mp3... does incontrol like anything from hots? i feel like artosis makes really good points about these small changes that reward skilled high apm players and incontrol just bashes it without any thought. I mean I personally think artosis is a pretty smart commentator/analyser of the game and puts thought into his sentences and made a lot of sense with his analysis of a lot of the new changes while i can't remember one thing incontrol actually liked.

also whats with this hate about the shredder bieing some imba unit? i'm pretty sure the only thing that it counters is mutas and zerglings for zerg, and for toss zealots... i think everything else in the game outranges it's wave... had this knowledge been brought up we may have been able to get 30 more minutes of actually knoweldgable feedback from the pro's instead of wastefull bashing on this unit. but none the less in enjoyed the show and thought tyler, artosis, and especially destiny's feedback was really great, but i honestly like incontrol and watch his stream a lot but from this show in perticular it just makes him look less knowledgable than i think he actually is and more of just a terran bashing troll.

i really agree with destiny and artosis's answer about players switching over to hots as well because the money is in the wol tournaments, i think it's going to be a while before the top level players switch to hots.


Because it basically discourages multitasking (ling runbys).. personally I don't think there should be another unit that helps Terran to turtle


i understand that and i wish that was brought up instead of negatively bashing on it as a unit that will just be super imba that will kill anything that attacks it, no... because in reality if there is a shredder protecting a ling run by location. its simple, you send 1 roach down to attack it. what happens? the shredder either dies, lifts up and runs, or an army comes to reinforce the shredder shutting it off and the roach dies.

i really think the main idea behind the shredder and why it was introduced, was to help mech shine in a tvp aspect as warp in is just so powerfull, but we'll just have to see. but again this wasn't brought up because there is no terran player on the show who knows these things to bring them up

I loved the shredder when I read the description. I assumed that it would be a huge spider mine that cost a bit of supply.

However, that thing they showed at blizzcon was just stupid. The damage is far too high, 20 dps is the same as a psi storm. Just think about that. It's a deployed psi storm with a massive radius that doesn't hurt friendly units.

I'd love for terran to have something like a spider mine but this thing feels so uninspired and boring.

I think the reason why a lot of people were disappointed with the HotS unit reveals was that they basically brought back some BW units and abilities (that everyone loved) but felt the need to make stupid changes to them in order to be 'original'. I can understand not wanting SC2 to become BW with a better engine but if they are going to blatantly steal units from BW I'd rather just get the actual unit than have them make a new 'original' version when the old unit would have served it's role better.

The best example has to be the damn Warhound. It should have been the goliath, there is no reason other than developer pride for making it into the horrible thing they suggested. A bonus to mechanical is completely meaningless (the only mechanical non-armored ground units are the hellion and the sentry) when you have marauders, as it is the warhound does the same damage (20) to armored at + 1 range but with significantly less RoF (and therefore much lower DPS). I don't see what this unit will change in tvt or tvp and it will only be used against mutas in tvz since the ground damage without the bonus is really bad. A goliath would have been a great unit for terrans to be able to deal with brood lords when ghost snipes will inevitably get nerfed AND it also would have been great vs other armored air and the ground attack is decent against everything - it also has a better model.

The goliath, lurker and the firebat are already in the game and they were supposed to be part of the original release only to be removed for terrible reasons. Why not just bring them back?

Also, protoss finally got a unit that can deal with corruptor and viking swarms. This could have made carriers viable (at least in zvp) ... but they removed them. Fuck.

Not to mention their retarded reasoning behind the new protoss units... "we don't want to add to the deathball" (and they still added the tempest).... The deathball isn't some sort of orchestra of protoss units. It's just colossus + stalkers and whatever else you want to bring with it since stalkers and colossi are just an amazing comp. And the only reason why stalkers are part of the ball is because colossi need anti-air. The "deathball" is the colossus. And for some messed up reason blizzard want colossi to be part of every single protoss matchup.

... and the stupid thor "we want to make a a-move friendly unit for the noobs"... I could probably go on for ages...

Obviously things will change a lot before HotS is released. But blizzcon wasn't very encouraging tbh.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
October 26 2011 20:55 GMT
#34573
On October 27 2011 05:43 TideRoll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 05:40 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Can somebody please link me to the thread iNcontroL was talking about, the one about a team tourney that EG was walked over? I didn't catch the name of the tournament and I dunno at what time they talk about it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274326

Thanks.
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
October 26 2011 21:04 GMT
#34574
On October 27 2011 03:37 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 03:35 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On October 27 2011 03:21 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
so i just listened to the whole mp3... does incontrol like anything from hots? i feel like artosis makes really good points about these small changes that reward skilled high apm players and incontrol just bashes it without any thought. I mean I personally think artosis is a pretty smart commentator/analyser of the game and puts thought into his sentences and made a lot of sense with his analysis of a lot of the new changes while i can't remember one thing incontrol actually liked.

also whats with this hate about the shredder bieing some imba unit? i'm pretty sure the only thing that it counters is mutas and zerglings for zerg, and for toss zealots... i think everything else in the game outranges it's wave... had this knowledge been brought up we may have been able to get 30 more minutes of actually knoweldgable feedback from the pro's instead of wastefull bashing on this unit. but none the less in enjoyed the show and thought tyler, artosis, and especially destiny's feedback was really great, but i honestly like incontrol and watch his stream a lot but from this show in perticular it just makes him look less knowledgable than i think he actually is and more of just a terran bashing troll.

i really agree with destiny and artosis's answer about players switching over to hots as well because the money is in the wol tournaments, i think it's going to be a while before the top level players switch to hots.


Because it basically discourages multitasking (ling runbys).. personally I don't think there should be another unit that helps Terran to turtle


If you're playing mech as terran, zerg can't really fight you head on, so they've got to do runbys, since your push is too powerful. If you've got a bunch of shredders at key locations, either they can't do the runby at all, or it gets slowed down a fuck ton from having to kill the shredders first. Either way, it's a massive advantage for the mech player to have this unit, I"m not sure it's OP but it's definitely going to be powerful.

Even though that's true, it will take up extremely valuable time from your factories, and will probably take up supply (?), so you might be really safe with multiple shredders on the map, but the actual push will be later and a lot weaker.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
Shorty90
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany154 Posts
October 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#34575
Sooo...
I wasn't able to watch the show live because the stream kept dying and the quality kept switching over and over again. Now I thought I could watch the vod but mlg/jp take forever to actually upload it... :-/
I can't believe I ate the whole thing.
illumis
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom1 Post
October 26 2011 21:13 GMT
#34576
anyone listening to the recording keep hearing bits repeated and sections missed? makes listening really uncomfortable. is it just my problem or is there a problem with the link?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 21:59:33
October 26 2011 21:59 GMT
#34577
On October 27 2011 06:13 illumis wrote:
anyone listening to the recording keep hearing bits repeated and sections missed? makes listening really uncomfortable. is it just my problem or is there a problem with the link?


i don't get this, but what i do have when listening to the mp3 through my browser is that the audio just dies after 15 minutes of playback necessitating an f5
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Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
October 26 2011 22:18 GMT
#34578
Alright guys keep up the voting for us to have this awesome show the morning after it's played like it used to be! Keep it up!

http://feedback.majorleaguegaming.com/forums/116517-mlg-tv-feedback-forum/suggestions/2345955-make-the-videos-accessible-more-quickly-
For Aïur?
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 26 2011 22:33 GMT
#34579
On October 27 2011 04:55 darkcloud8282 wrote:
I just have to say that was the most disgusting SOTG I've seen.. the images of the whatever phobia was just sick.. Just a heads up for people who haven't watched it..


Ahh yeah, I agree. I mean I don´t have that phobia or whatever but the video is pretty gross. Definitively something that may not pass as SFW
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
October 26 2011 22:40 GMT
#34580
Great episode. Destiny finds the best strats with the new units lol
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