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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 24 2011 08:23 GMT
#34101
Could probably do a SOTG marathon with all the news that popped up over the last few days o.O

Hoping there's a pro representative of each race for the HotS discussion.
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NormandyBoy
Profile Joined May 2010
France200 Posts
October 24 2011 08:43 GMT
#34102
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?
superarmy
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand422 Posts
October 24 2011 09:07 GMT
#34103
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
October 24 2011 14:12 GMT
#34104
Do an extra long sotg this week please!
Im better than Stefan
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 24 2011 14:13 GMT
#34105
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
October 24 2011 14:17 GMT
#34106
On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game


I hope you are planning a three hour rant on this subject. While remaining perfectly chill.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 16:59:46
October 24 2011 16:59 GMT
#34107
On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game


I'm not sure why they don't hire certain people from the community on a contractual basis for consulting with game/balance design. Sure their team has a good set of expertise, and sure they consult pros for potential changes before patches, but I'm pretty confident in saying that there are a lot of people that understand all of the interactions between units at a deeper level than some people on their balance team.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 24 2011 17:14 GMT
#34108
I hope there's a show even if Artosis and Day9 can't make it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 24 2011 17:54 GMT
#34109
On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game


So true, so true. Though I thought we already knew that.

I really hope that Blizzard finds a way to keep that ability in the game. It is the exact sort of decision making I think is best for the game. Do I chono probes or cut corners in my defense and rely on this ability to hold a ling/marine all-in/pressure? And since it does nothing to armored targets, only has uses against a set group of units.

Plus with the new super hellions, I need something. Damn it, the improved version of that unit better cost gas.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 24 2011 17:58 GMT
#34110
On October 25 2011 01:59 caradoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game


I'm not sure why they don't hire certain people from the community on a contractual basis for consulting with game/balance design. Sure their team has a good set of expertise, and sure they consult pros for potential changes before patches, but I'm pretty confident in saying that there are a lot of people that understand all of the interactions between units at a deeper level than some people on their balance team.


Well the expansion has not even gone to beta yet. If you watched the reveal of WOL, a lot of the stuff that was first featured never made it into the game(time shield anyone, god it looked cool). Personally I think they are just trying out some new abilities and units to see if we can come up with more complex builds and gameplay.

If you listen to the people at Blizzard, they say that most abilities and units are to powerful when they first make them. They find, as a whole, that it is easier to tone a unit down than to buff it up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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psycroptic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
October 24 2011 18:04 GMT
#34111
On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game

some of us got the joke
Shirin
Profile Joined August 2011
Hungary11 Posts
October 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#34112
Just invite Idra and DJWheat. and open up some vodka.
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
October 24 2011 18:21 GMT
#34113
On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:
On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ?

Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS

it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game


Hehehe. I just really hope we get Tyler. An opinianated, intelligent person. Day[9] is awesome when it comes to many things.But he never has an opinion about anything that could even border to balance. And when he has opinions its like its from a bronze noob. An example is the time when he tried to convince IdrA that the counter to getting pyloned into your base is 1 base hydra.... and when IdrA tried to convince him that you would just get slaughtered doing that, he tried to explain in a haugthy voice that protoss couldnt have cannons and stalker and sentries at that time.

I really hope Tyler will be running the show. He is awesome.
IMSmooth
Profile Joined May 2011
United States679 Posts
October 24 2011 20:33 GMT
#34114
IMO this is too important of a time to be skipping SotG. There is literally a billion things to discuss and Tyler seems really excited to talk this time!!! :D . I know JP must be tired (did a great job at Blizzcon), but the show must go on!!!!!

Please

Also, it wouldnt hurt letting tyler run the show for an episode. The guy is a genious and a chill baller. It is also about time that he gets an official sponsorship from Alaska Distillary. + Show Spoiler +
When does "The Outlaw" rum come out from them ????? :p
"Get your shit done... THEN party" - NonY
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 24 2011 20:54 GMT
#34115
Tyler called the whole Blizzcon bracket in SotG ep.53 . Well, it was probably not the toughest bracket to predict, but still well played. Only upset was Toodming over Ret and if we count the first series Nestea over MVP, although in the end again it went as predicted.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 24 2011 20:57 GMT
#34116
To be fair, if HotS will be a big topic, you guys need to get all the races on board of this discussion.

When Day9 leaves partway through the next SotG, you bring on DeMuslim and Machine and can really delve into the new units. :D
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 21:10:54
October 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#34117
Dear SotG,

Please don't discuss HotS units, changes, or possible op/up. It is all speculation and is meaningless when there are so many tournaments and important things now to discuss. Save HotS stuff for when it's, you know, somewhere near completion and you're seeing something closer to a finished product. That's not to say ignore it completely for those of you who actually played some of it, but don't spend much time on it.

Sincerely,
Somebody who doesn't want to hear how op/up a unit that wont make it to release as is.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
October 24 2011 21:35 GMT
#34118
On October 25 2011 06:10 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Dear SotG,

Please don't discuss HotS units, changes, or possible op/up. It is all speculation and is meaningless when there are so many tournaments and important things now to discuss. Save HotS stuff for when it's, you know, somewhere near completion and you're seeing something closer to a finished product. That's not to say ignore it completely for those of you who actually played some of it, but don't spend much time on it.

Sincerely,
Somebody who doesn't want to hear how op/up a unit that wont make it to release as is.

There's more to discuss about HotS than "how op/up a unit is". Like potential strategies that unit can produce, potential strategies that unit shuts down, etc.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
October 24 2011 21:53 GMT
#34119
SOTG is officially ON for tomorrow night!

itmeJP JP McDaniel
k @StateOfTheGame is a go for tomorrow night @Steven_Bonnell will hop on and working on other guest if needed, @Artosis might make it
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
JethroMoney
Profile Joined August 2010
United States113 Posts
October 24 2011 21:56 GMT
#34120
On October 25 2011 06:35 TedJustice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 06:10 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Dear SotG,

Please don't discuss HotS units, changes, or possible op/up. It is all speculation and is meaningless when there are so many tournaments and important things now to discuss. Save HotS stuff for when it's, you know, somewhere near completion and you're seeing something closer to a finished product. That's not to say ignore it completely for those of you who actually played some of it, but don't spend much time on it.

Sincerely,
Somebody who doesn't want to hear how op/up a unit that wont make it to release as is.

There's more to discuss about HotS than "how op/up a unit is". Like potential strategies that unit can produce, potential strategies that unit shuts down, etc.


I think his point is that almost everything they announced here will change in some way (at least hopefully), so it's a bit pointless to speculate and criticize what they've shown so far. I don't think it would be bad to at least talk about their experiences and how much they think will change, but it is a bit silly to go way in depth on this.
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