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On October 25 2011 06:53 Charger wrote:
SOTG is officially ON for tomorrow night!
itmeJP JP McDaniel
k @StateOfTheGame is a go for tomorrow night @Steven_Bonnell will hop on and working on other guest if needed, @Artosis might make it
wooo!!!
I personally agree with some who are disinclined to discussion of HotS. I would much prefer developed discussion on the past tourney's and the state of WoL than pointless speculation... 
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On October 25 2011 06:56 JethroMoney wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 06:35 TedJustice wrote:On October 25 2011 06:10 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Dear SotG,
Please don't discuss HotS units, changes, or possible op/up. It is all speculation and is meaningless when there are so many tournaments and important things now to discuss. Save HotS stuff for when it's, you know, somewhere near completion and you're seeing something closer to a finished product. That's not to say ignore it completely for those of you who actually played some of it, but don't spend much time on it.
Sincerely,
Somebody who doesn't want to hear how op/up a unit that wont make it to release as is. There's more to discuss about HotS than "how op/up a unit is". Like potential strategies that unit can produce, potential strategies that unit shuts down, etc. I think his point is that almost everything they announced here will change in some way (at least hopefully), so it's a bit pointless to speculate and criticize what they've shown so far. I don't think it would be bad to at least talk about their experiences and how much they think will change, but it is a bit silly to go way in depth on this.
Perfectly said no point going crazy in depth when so much stuff will change anyway. JP just said on twitter SOTG is a go for tomorrow woot!!!
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JP, the VODs for sotg doesn't work for me any more. I was getting my daily dose of watching HuK and PuMa cuddle, but now all I get is commercial sound but no vod. I use Firefox.
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On October 25 2011 07:00 chambertin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 06:53 Charger wrote:
SOTG is officially ON for tomorrow night!
itmeJP JP McDaniel
k @StateOfTheGame is a go for tomorrow night @Steven_Bonnell will hop on and working on other guest if needed, @Artosis might make it wooo!!! I personally agree with some who are disinclined to discussion of HotS. I would much prefer developed discussion on the past tourney's and the state of WoL than pointless speculation...
Bah. I for one welcome entertainment if it be mocking our new overseer or artosis' nerd voice complaining about how Blizzard is choking esports to death and telling us how really toss is op.
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It's probably not the right place to ask this but where can I find /v/ community tyler referred to in sotg?
I tried to find it but I still have no idea where and what it is exactly.
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It's the 4chan video game section.^
(edit: mixed 4chan w/reddit)
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On October 25 2011 08:42 pPingu wrote:
It's probably not the right place to ask this but where can I find /v/ community tyler referred to in sotg?
I tried to find it but I still have no idea where and what it is exactly.
/v/ is the videogame section on 4chan. I almost never go there so I have no idea if he was being facetious or not
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... It's the 4chan video game board he's referencing,,
4chan.org/v/
Do not visit 4chan if you're not prepared. That's all
EDIT: NINJAS! Ninja's everywhere
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On October 25 2011 08:18 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 07:00 chambertin wrote:On October 25 2011 06:53 Charger wrote:
SOTG is officially ON for tomorrow night!
itmeJP JP McDaniel
k @StateOfTheGame is a go for tomorrow night @Steven_Bonnell will hop on and working on other guest if needed, @Artosis might make it wooo!!! I personally agree with some who are disinclined to discussion of HotS. I would much prefer developed discussion on the past tourney's and the state of WoL than pointless speculation... Bah. I for one welcome entertainment if it be mocking our new overseer or artosis' nerd voice complaining about how Blizzard is choking esports to death and telling us how really toss is op.
I think you can count on certain people, like Artosis, to be overly optimistic about the expansion despite what he might actually think. Day9 as well, although it seems sometimes like for some reason he actually is optimistic about everything.
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On October 25 2011 08:50 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:18 Sabu113 wrote:On October 25 2011 07:00 chambertin wrote:On October 25 2011 06:53 Charger wrote:
SOTG is officially ON for tomorrow night!
itmeJP JP McDaniel
k @StateOfTheGame is a go for tomorrow night @Steven_Bonnell will hop on and working on other guest if needed, @Artosis might make it wooo!!! I personally agree with some who are disinclined to discussion of HotS. I would much prefer developed discussion on the past tourney's and the state of WoL than pointless speculation... Bah. I for one welcome entertainment if it be mocking our new overseer or artosis' nerd voice complaining about how Blizzard is choking esports to death and telling us how really toss is op. I think you can count on certain people, like Artosis, to be overly optimistic about the expansion despite what he might actually think. Day9 as well, although it seems sometimes like for some reason he actually is optimistic about everything.
Geoff is pretty optimistic about the protoss units
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On October 24 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 18:07 superarmy wrote:On October 24 2011 17:43 NormandyBoy wrote:
In blizzcon (don't remember when exactly), Dustin "Destructible rocks" Browder said Day9 had given them very good feedback for balancing the game, can we know what was this feedback ? Thisss so bad, really want Days honest opinion about HotS it was probably something really insightful like winning with a proxy assimilator is not good for the game
I'm sure thats almost already out of the game :D or the cannon ability is now an upgrade or something. Your opinion too, especially about the Tempest and Oracle and how they could fit into Protoss gameplay. I realize almost all of it is fairly abstract for now, considering that the cost, dps and abilities are likely to change wildly, even if they make it into the final cut. Still, it would be nice to know if you guys think if Blizzard is going in the right direction.
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has episode 54 started yet ?
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I'd like to know what the SotG people think about dustin browder saying the following to kennigit in his 20 minute interview:
+ Show Spoiler +"we got feedback for instance frequently during beta that when we changed the roach, you know umm, foodcost that we've ruined the race. now zerg were not numerous. right, they had a big unit. I was like well you know, there's no way to add a new unit to this game without changing it. the race will change, it must change, if we add any new units and if you want the exact same game, please go play broodwar. it's awesome, right? but we are by the very nature of changing the units we will change the nature of the race. so in the case of WoL we felt like the zerg felt massable, because you would hit with 200 food, but because you could save a billion larva, you could hit with 200 food again a few, you know 35 to 45 seconds later and that felt like the zerg to us. but we're not as worried about a specific character for the race. that's not what we're trying to do. in terms of, I think, I think what the real feedback is I'm getting out of what you're saying is the terrans feel like they got too much stuff, which is fair enough. like I kinda wish all the races felt like they had too much stuff, instead of just the terrans."
I personally have a huge problem with them not being interested about "specific character". I don't think terrans should have the marauder, or zergs the roach instead of a 1 food swarm unit. to me marauders, stalkers and roaches are too similar. I also don't approve this idea that every race should have "too much" stuff. it implies there's no weakness. I think there should be more emphasis on weaknesses and strengths that give the races identity. skins aren't enough. I don't think designing new units automatically changes the theme of the race. it's a choice. is this really something people don't care about?
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On October 25 2011 14:35 ArcLiTe wrote:
has episode 54 started yet ?
It airs in 12 hours.
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On October 25 2011 22:08 grappasc wrote:I'd like to know what the SotG people think about dustin browder saying the following to kennigit in his 20 minute interview: + Show Spoiler +"we got feedback for instance frequently during beta that when we changed the roach, you know umm, foodcost that we've ruined the race. now zerg were not numerous. right, they had a big unit. I was like well you know, there's no way to add a new unit to this game without changing it. the race will change, it must change, if we add any new units and if you want the exact same game, please go play broodwar. it's awesome, right? but we are by the very nature of changing the units we will change the nature of the race. so in the case of WoL we felt like the zerg felt massable, because you would hit with 200 food, but because you could save a billion larva, you could hit with 200 food again a few, you know 35 to 45 seconds later and that felt like the zerg to us. but we're not as worried about a specific character for the race. that's not what we're trying to do. in terms of, I think, I think what the real feedback is I'm getting out of what you're saying is the terrans feel like they got too much stuff, which is fair enough. like I kinda wish all the races felt like they had too much stuff, instead of just the terrans." I personally have a huge problem with them not being interested about "specific character". I don't think terrans should have the marauder, or zergs the roach instead of a 1 food swarm unit. to me marauders, stalkers and roaches are too similar. I also don't approve this idea that every race should have "too much" stuff. it implies there's no weakness. I think there should be more emphasis on weaknesses and strengths that give the races identity. skins aren't enough. I don't think designing new units automatically changes the theme of the race. it's a choice. is this really something people don't care about?
I kinda feel like your taking it out of context. He's saying that they're less worried about keeping the BW "character" of the races and more interested in adding what they consider fun and cool stuff to all the races.
Also the thing about too much stuff to me has nothing to do with it having "no weakness", just that there's alot of things to explore. Terran just has alot more things to explore compared to Zerg and Protoss and it seems like Browder wants all the races to have alot of options.
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Tyler just said on his stream that he had ideas for running tonight's show. I'm really curious. Let him do eet!
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On October 25 2011 06:53 Charger wrote:
SOTG is officially ON for tomorrow night!
itmeJP JP McDaniel
k @StateOfTheGame is a go for tomorrow night @Steven_Bonnell will hop on and working on other guest if needed, @Artosis might make it
I <3 JP
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On October 25 2011 08:47 mikkeld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:42 pPingu wrote:
It's probably not the right place to ask this but where can I find /v/ community tyler referred to in sotg?
I tried to find it but I still have no idea where and what it is exactly. /v/ is the videogame section on 4chan. I almost never go there so I have no idea if he was being facetious or not
The sc2 community on /v/ is exceptionally creative and hilarious. I highly recommend keeping an eye out for those threads
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I hope they go light on the HotS discussion. There has already been way too much speculation from the community and balance whine(LOL) already, which is pointless since blizzard is not concerned about balance when first making new units(and rightfully so).
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I think it'd be a cool idea for Day9 to some what run the show for a night. Similar to what iNcontroL did for his last show when he was still leaving.
Then day9 fills it with all balance/strategy talk for 2 and half hours
Or maybe have a strategy/balance segment that's like 45 minutes each show. It would help all the people that ask for it. Also just another thing to fill content on slow nights.
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