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On May 26 2011 00:23 MrCon wrote:
About the Archon talk of Inc, I'm not sure it is valid (but I say that intuitively, I only play T and Z) Because when protoss are making colossi, they invest a LOT in those, and make 4-5 colossi+thermal lance.
The same resources would be like 5 archons which are quite powerful (even more if you storm before).
(on a related note, chargelots are awesome in PvZ :D)
You're completely wrong
5 archons mixed with gateway units get dominated by roach hydra and can at best trade evenly with ling bling infestor (unless you transition into it after something like dt harass where you have a massive advantage), you never want to evenly trade with zerg as protoss it favors zerg heavily.
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On May 26 2011 00:48 MaxwellE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 23:48 corpuscle wrote:On May 25 2011 23:25 Exarl25 wrote:
The last thing the SC2 community needs right now is more drama, so I hope to hell that these theories of the EG guys being forced away from sotg aren't true. I really doubt that it has anything to do with EG, any good manager (which Scoots seems to be) would be glad to have their players on a popular show plugging their sponsors and getting the team's name out there. SotG doesn't have any sponsors, so it's not like there's a conflict there. IdrA needing to be "cleared" to be on next week more likely has to do with his practice schedule for MLG and his other obligations with EGMCS and stuff like that, and Geoff leaving probably is just a matter of being too busy and having to make a tough choice for his own sanity. He used to be really funny on it but ever since he started NASL and started acting "professional" he has been really boring.
I will agree with you here 100%. I think the show will be fine without him. Tyler is one of the big reasons I tune in every week. I appreciate his hardcore analysis, and when Day becomes a regular again, they won't miss a beat. Hopefully Idra will make time to be on more, i always dig when he makes his appearances. JP does a great job managing the flow of the show and it's a couple hours out of the week i'd really miss if it went away.
Additionally, iNcontrol was beginning to get a little obnoxious with his self-promoting i.e. talking about his 'panels' with the big industry guys and how exciting everyday life was for him. It felt like it was more about blowing up his own balloon than expanding the world's interest in SC. But I will say he definitely seemed to care about his own fans and was genuinely thankful to them.
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On May 26 2011 00:56 haflo wrote:
JP Invite total-biscuit ,
it will take exactly two shows till InControl will beg to come back (and also i think TB can fit InControl spot pretty well )
Just wanted to say SotG is my favorite pod-cast , love you guys , i think the show is irreplaceable and hope you come back soon! I need my drug for the long drives to work , don't leave me stranded .
Yeah, except TB, despite being an awesome caster, has little knowledge about SC2. Its.. not the same..
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On May 26 2011 01:08 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 00:56 haflo wrote:
JP Invite total-biscuit ,
it will take exactly two shows till InControl will beg to come back (and also i think TB can fit InControl spot pretty well )
Just wanted to say SotG is my favorite pod-cast , love you guys , i think the show is irreplaceable and hope you come back soon! I need my drug for the long drives to work , don't leave me stranded . Yeah, except TB, despite being an awesome caster, has little knowledge about SC2. Its.. not the same..
Aye i don't claim TB has Incontrol SC2 knowledge , please don't shoot me !
Its just they kinda linked to the same spot of "the funny articulate don't give a shit guy" in my head.
Would the show would be hurting because the lack of another in depth commentator ,
maybe , I wasn't too serious about it , though when i do pounder about it , i think it might actually work.
The show would definitely be different without Incontrol , and i already missing him .
But i do believe it can be just as good, go JP!
I did try to watch ITG series , didn't do it for me so far, i will give it a few more episodes though to get better.
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Incontrol, why  You changed me from a " incontrol.." to "super yay incontrol" during your time on this show, I'll miss you man. This is really sad news.
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I just dont like how its kinda trying to highjack the show JP started by sending similiar show earlier on the same day and with two of the "regulars" on sotg.
This is the part that bugs me. It seems rather intentional on ITG's part. There's 7 days in a week.
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On May 26 2011 01:27 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +I just dont like how its kinda trying to highjack the show JP started by sending similiar show earlier on the same day and with two of the "regulars" on sotg. This is the part that bugs me. It seems rather intentional on ITG's part. There's 7 days in a week.
Quoting djWHEAT
"Out of respect" for the hosts let me make this clear. TUESDAY was selected by Painuser, Idra, and inC. Trust me... I didn't want the show to be on Tuesday, but with the player's already busy schedules this was the day that worked best for them. And thus the day that was selected. There was absolutely no intention for putting the show on Tuesday other than it was requested by the 3 players.
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I think people are speculating too much, just know that iNcontroL has his reason for doing what he feels is best for him. As fans (or so called) you should support him. Don't put words in his mouth by saying, "its for the money" or anything like that. It's just bad for the community.
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I just thought it was really silly to have four protoss on State of the Game yesterday. Half of them saying that zerg is too strong, the other half saying they are balanced. One trying to say that Inca getting 4-0'ed by Nestea was proof of the matchup being balanced. Inca arguably the worst semi-finalist in recent memory. He got to the finals because he is good at pvp ( lol wut pvp master?)
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SOTG, ITG, NASL casting, EGMCS casting, Anna and being a progamer.
That's a busy life.
This is almost definately because of time constraints. I really doubt EG or ITG or anyone would tell incontrol he can't be on SOTG anymore. Something has to give there and it can't be NASL, EGMCS, Anna or the progamer part.
Stop with the nonsense theories and shit disturbing.
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This is almost definately because of time constraints.
Why did he say he might never be a guest again either? Seems like a weird thing to say, given EGMC's and NASL come in seasons and he will have downtime.
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On May 25 2011 23:17 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 22:25 Discerpo wrote:I love how they're talking about current zerg dominance... What zerg dominance? + Show Spoiler +Am I the only person who sees 4 Protoss in the Ro4 StarsWar Killer 6? Or no zerg presence in the Ro8 TSL? Or a Zerg winning GSL, the most prestigious tournament ever? Or 2 Zerg finalists in Assembly. Yes not ever tournaments has a randomized top 3 between all 3 races. You win some you lose some.
Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't say zerg aren't winning or getting to the finals. I'm saying 'where is the zerg dominance?' Huk clearly stated at 30:30 onwards 'zerg dominance, especially in korea', and their discussion from that point on was in agreement with that statement.
I'm sorry, but 1 GSL finals win where LAST WEEK they agreed it was only due to Inca not even being close to Nestea in terms of skill.
Not to mention when they were bashing Moon, Incontrol mistakenly thought he did well in the 'joke' of a lineup that was Assembly. So 2 zerg finalists in such a situation is 'hardly' proof that zerg is suddenly this overwhelmingly crushing force 'dominating' protoss at the moment.
I don't really care who the hell thinks zerg or protoss is overpowered or whatever at the moment. All I see is 4 protoss taking advantage of their stage on State of the Game, in the absence of any opposing voice to spout absolute bullshit.
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No one else thinks it's a little weird that he cut out SotG instead of something actually time consuming? 2 hours once a week isn't going to make or break iNcontrol. Seems like the most obvious solution would be to get another full time caster for NASL and Geoff could just come on occasionally. It just seems that if the reasoning behind this is that if inc wanting to play more and focus more on the game, he should have considered giving up by far his most time consuming project of casting for the NASL. Like I said, that 2 hours/week he spent on SotG isn't what is hampering his play or whatever, it's that 30+ for NASL.
* It is perfectly possible that iNcontrol did consider giving up casting for the NASL but it may not be possible. I have no idea. *
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On May 26 2011 01:57 Discerpo wrote:
I don't really care who the hell thinks zerg or protoss is overpowered or whatever at the moment. All I see is 4 protoss taking advantage of their stage on State of the Game, in the absence of any opposing voice to spout absolute bullshit.
When hasn't a player of any race used SotG to spout what could be seen as 'absolute bullshit'?
I hear DTs are better than Banshees and Zergs can never win against good opponents. And that horses may or may not have souls.
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On May 26 2011 00:59 Nothingtosay wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 00:23 MrCon wrote:
About the Archon talk of Inc, I'm not sure it is valid (but I say that intuitively, I only play T and Z) Because when protoss are making colossi, they invest a LOT in those, and make 4-5 colossi+thermal lance.
The same resources would be like 5 archons which are quite powerful (even more if you storm before).
(on a related note, chargelots are awesome in PvZ :D) You're completely wrong 5 archons mixed with gateway units get dominated by roach hydra and can at best trade evenly with ling bling infestor (unless you transition into it after something like dt harass where you have a massive advantage), you never want to evenly trade with zerg as protoss it favors zerg heavily.
Um, you might want to rerun that combo. Blink stalkers+archons are deadly vs roach hydra, and far mor mobile.
and as for this zerg domiance and protoss doing bad, I would like to direct you guys to the Starwars tournament.
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On May 26 2011 01:53 nvs. wrote:Why did he say he might never be a guest again either? Seems like a weird thing to say, given EGMC's and NASL come in seasons and he will have downtime.
He might have other stuff in the pipeline we don't really know about, or he might just want to be able to use his downtime (of which there still isn't much, remember that he's still a full-time coach and progamer) for a much-needed break. He's sort of been blowing up lately, the guy must work like 50-60 hours a week.
No one else thinks it's a little weird that he cut out SotG instead of something actually time consuming? 2 hours once a week isn't going to make or break iNcontrol. Seems like the most obvious solution would be to get another full time caster for NASL and Geoff could just come on occasionally. It just seems that if the reasoning behind this is that if inc wanting to play more and focus more on the game, he should have considered giving up by far his most time consuming project of casting for the NASL. Like I said, that 2 hours/week he spent on SotG isn't what is hampering his play or whatever, it's that 30+ for NASL.
* It is perfectly possible that iNcontrol did consider giving up casting for the NASL but it may not be possible. I have no idea. *
Maybe he wants to do NASL more? He's getting paid for it, which is an obvious incentive, and if he's thinking about his long-term career, casting NASL is a much better move than being on SotG.
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Was worried that the "sad news" was going to be Tyler is quitting, don't worry it's just Geoff leaving. Trolololololoolololo, its not gonna be the same without Geoff's impressions.
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I would just like to thank Geoff for his contributions to SotG, many of the shows most entertaining moments centered around you in some way or another. It is truly quite saddening to see you leave. I like many others was introduced to your personality through SotG, and it is from there that I became a fan. Though you will no longer be a pillar of SotG I hope you make yourself available as a guest as often as you feel your schedule permits. I wish you the best in your ventures outside SotG, your presence will surely be missed, but I have faith that you will not abandon the show completely.
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Anyone else find HuK's comment about zerg players learning to use infestors really stupid?
Zergs didn't figure out how to use them...they got buffed.
Really kinda sad these guys are starting to cry imba after just a couple of weeks (where zerg has won one tournament) when they have been dominating zergs for the past 2 months, and zerg players were just "bad and didn't know how to micro". Pretty hypocritical tbh.
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