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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 25 2011 04:41 GMT
#22081
On May 25 2011 13:38 GTR wrote:


don't remind me, god I hated archons + reavers :D.
When I think of something else, something will go here
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 25 2011 04:41 GMT
#22082
On May 25 2011 13:30 Mailing wrote:
How are zerg dominating protoss now? =/

I think he means NESTEA is dominating protoss. The lower tier protoss at that.

If you look at NASL -

Kiwi -> lost to 2 terrans

Naniwa -> lost to terran and protoss

Squirtle -> top 5

Ace -> lost to 2 terrans

MC -> lost to Ace and played like shit vs Ret (nydus next to a pylon, wtf mc)

Whitera -> top 10

Axlav -> lost to 2 terrans and a protoss

Hasuobs -> lost to terran and protoss


Arent u as biased as it gets....

Kiwi lost to Idra
Naniwa lost to Morrow
Squirtle dont care much
Ace dont care much
MC lost to Ret and DRG
Whitera lost to Lalush and Idra and Stephano
Axlav isnt even a top player
Hasuobs also lost to lots of zergs

Stop looking at just NASL for full match up balance. Because everyone can name some results where someone lost to someone thus negating the balance discussion.
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
May 25 2011 04:42 GMT
#22083
On May 25 2011 13:40 Mailing wrote:
Stalker + storm alone is a 100% viable end-game composition..... If Archons were even better than they are now... 0__0


I think his general point is that early-tier units are incredibly good late-game, and that teching is often a waste. Stuff like roach vs archon or like anything vs ultralisk makes teching feel dumb
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
May 25 2011 04:43 GMT
#22084
On May 25 2011 13:36 SoKHo wrote:
I am sooooo glad. Zerg players have been talking so much shit. Even today, "toss is OP lol". Zerg's whine/rage like nobody's business. I don't see toss players whine.



Your not even close to being in south korea.

So.. an entire set of players who all happen to pick zerg just happen to be predisposed to moaning?
Or perhaps collosus being an A move unit and basically killing everything on the ground.. is bad dull gameplay to play against?

Not to mention every single ground unit toss has gets the same upgrades.. so they can make ANYTHING they want and still be totally viable.

Toss being underpowered is a ridiculous claim, when all units share the same upgrades, and you get 2 best aoe units in the game that are very easy to use..

The trouble is.. Toss is just boring to play against.. You have to try to take them out before they get the Tech that they want, cos when they have it, they walk into your base, aoe is too easy and effective to use
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
May 25 2011 04:44 GMT
#22085
On May 25 2011 13:38 GTR wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giKEYLUTWWQ



I am pretty sure I am still scarred by SCBW archons, because when I see them in SC2 I get scared (as a zerg user) then I kill it with nothing and I am like, "oh yeah new game."
Loose lips sink ships
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
May 25 2011 04:46 GMT
#22086
On May 25 2011 13:43 Eleaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 13:36 SoKHo wrote:
I am sooooo glad. Zerg players have been talking so much shit. Even today, "toss is OP lol". Zerg's whine/rage like nobody's business. I don't see toss players whine.



Your not even close to being in south korea.

So.. an entire set of players who all happen to pick zerg just happen to be predisposed to moaning?
Or perhaps collosus being an A move unit and basically killing everything on the ground.. is bad dull gameplay to play against?

Not to mention every single ground unit toss has gets the same upgrades.. so they can make ANYTHING they want and still be totally viable.

Toss being underpowered is a ridiculous claim, when all units share the same upgrades, and you get 2 best aoe units in the game that are very easy to use..

The trouble is.. Toss is just boring to play against.. You have to try to take them out before they get the Tech that they want, cos when they have it, they walk into your base, aoe is too easy and effective to use


I don't have a stake in this (read: previously mentioning I play terran), but talking about a race's strengths and passing it as balance discussion is a completely stupid way of going about discussion.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 25 2011 04:46 GMT
#22087
i really dont get the toss whine from these guys. increasing the archon splash and buffing it would be insane. think about the AOE from a collossi/archon army.
Grimjim
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
May 25 2011 04:47 GMT
#22088
I'm going to go ahead and strongly suggest JP stays away from balance discussion when he has such a one-race stacked roster. Having 4 Terran or 4 Zerg would turn into a giant, QQ circlejerk, just as this one has. Protoss are bad at drops? You have a drop-ship that can make new units instantly. That's the best drop advantage out of the 3 races.

I don't tune in to hear 4 Protoss complain about how they are having trouble in a matchup and demanding buffs. Especially after 20 episodes of InControl and Nony telling IdrA and other Zergs to get creative and use Nydus worms.

We just got creative Protoss users. Ball is in your court.
I am serious. And my name is Shirley.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 04:48:43
May 25 2011 04:48 GMT
#22089
incontrol is such a troll lol
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
May 25 2011 04:48 GMT
#22090
Jeff trollin' Naniwa hard.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 25 2011 04:48 GMT
#22091
Geoff and his science theories! muahahaha
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 25 2011 04:48 GMT
#22092
Nani sounded a bit jealous there when talking about TLO's house.
Also LOL at Incontrols opinion on why Sweden is sooo good D)D)DD)
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
May 25 2011 04:48 GMT
#22093
Rofl. "Well played."
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
May 25 2011 04:49 GMT
#22094
is the contrapositive of what incontrol said true about america? :O
Meh.
Tyrr
Profile Joined March 2011
United States216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 04:50:12
May 25 2011 04:49 GMT
#22095
On May 25 2011 13:47 Grimjim wrote:
You have a drop-ship that can make new units instantly. That's the best drop advantage out of the 3 races.


It also dies when somebody sneezes.
im bad
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
May 25 2011 04:50 GMT
#22096
On May 25 2011 13:49 Tyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 13:47 Grimjim wrote:
You have a drop-ship that can make new units instantly. That's the best drop advantage out of the 3 races.


It also dies when somebody sneezes.



20 less hp than medivac.. oh no.. the shame :S.. good job its a lot faster right?
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
May 25 2011 04:51 GMT
#22097
Huk: US has what, 10 times the population, roughly the same talent pool?

Incontrol: We're too busy generating the content all of you nerds watch.

BOOM
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 25 2011 04:51 GMT
#22098
On May 25 2011 13:49 Tyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 13:47 Grimjim wrote:
You have a drop-ship that can make new units instantly. That's the best drop advantage out of the 3 races.


It also dies when somebody sneezes.


For the ability to warp in as many new units as you have gateways? I'd take that trade any day. Drop somewhere where your opponent can't see (kind of like the Terrans do) and mayyyyyyyyyybe its fragility wouldn't be a problem.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 25 2011 04:51 GMT
#22099
omg this whole sweden discussion is gold hahaha
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 25 2011 04:51 GMT
#22100
No one can troll like Incontrol, hes just that good
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