EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1032
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zeru
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Xarwy
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smallerk
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On May 08 2011 01:19 Xarwy wrote: It would be awesome to see some "open calls" in SOTG like in most of djWHEAT's show. Its fine as it is, taking questions from chat, imo. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On May 07 2011 23:57 zeru wrote: I knew what your post was going to be before I even read it when i saw your user name, because you are a known idra fanboy. Try to see the world from other point of views, being blinded by ignorance isn't a good thing. Your bias stinks. You are a perfect example of what I have been describing. holy fuck did you actually just say that you think all idra fans are ignorant and judged someones post pre-emptively just because they're an idra fan? and you're calling him biased? holy shit | ||
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zeru
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
A zerg has to worry about more shit and consequences than any other race, always. Prove it. Give an example of: A current pro, who does not play Zerg who agrees that Zerg is underpowered--a random, or multi-race, player would be alright. For example, if TLO said, "I play both T and Z and I think Z is UP" that would be valuable. Similarly, if MC said, "beating Zerg is easy coz their UP" or something, that'd be valuable as well. This is because these players have no conflict of interest in evaluating Zerg, and for non-Z players, they actually have an incentive to [i]deny[/] that Zeg is UP...so if they were say its UP, that would be notable. or Hard statistical data, with a decent sample size, showing that Zerg lose much more than they should at the pro level. Absent that... You really have no way to know. You're not a pro, erego you're not nearly good enough to develop meaningful opinions on balance of your own--ANY time you, or anyone else in this thread, loses, its because they weren't good enough. And pro Zergs have an obvious conflict of interest in evaluating their own race and therefore their arguments are suspect, for the same reason nobody takes MVP seriously when he says Terran is UP. | ||
Tarot
Canada440 Posts
On May 08 2011 02:18 awesomoecalypse wrote: Prove it. Give an example of: A current pro, who does not play Zerg who agrees that Zerg is underpowered--a random, or multi-race, player would be alright. For example, if TLO said, "I play both T and Z and I think Z is UP" that would be valuable. Similarly, if MC said, "beating Zerg is easy coz their UP" or something, that'd be valuable as well. This is because these players have no conflict of interest in evaluating Zerg, and for non-Z players, they actually have an incentive to [i]deny[/] that Zeg is UP...so if they were say its UP, that would be notable. What about the IM Head Coach in his interview with Artosis? I don't think he would have much bias towards Terran, Zerg or Protoss. He said that Zergs were having a really hard time against both Terran/Protoss and he thinks Blizzard should "try to fix the balance". | ||
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zeru
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
On May 08 2011 02:58 zeru wrote: 1 persons opinion is not proof. Neither is 10, or 100. Actual reliable data is somewhat acceptable proof to some, depending on the type of data. 5000 proofs is not enough for a protoss/terran player, as long as zerg can win... | ||
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zeru
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
I think Inca is a really good player. I know I complained a lot previously about ZvP matchups when I faced Anypro, but in practice I was win rate against them were around 90%, so I have some confidence in the matchup. Thats from Nestea's latest interview. Maybe IdrA's problem isn't his race, its just that he's not as good as he thinks he is. Certainly, he's no Nestea. | ||
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Ottoxlol
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On May 08 2011 03:23 awesomoecalypse wrote: Thats from Nestea's latest interview. Maybe IdrA's problem isn't his race, its just that he's not as good as he thinks he is. Certainly, he's no Nestea. Yes. If he really thinks zerg is broken he would have switched ages ago. He knows he's bad, this whole thing is an act. | ||
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
On May 08 2011 03:35 Ottoxlol wrote: Yes. If he really thinks zerg is broken he would have switched ages ago. He knows he's bad, this whole thing is an act. Yes he is obviously bad, he was just the best foreigner in BW and is still the best foreigner on SC2 right now with jinro. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On May 08 2011 03:40 Leavzou wrote: Yes he is obviously bad, he was just the best foreigner in BW and is still the best foreigner on SC2 right now with jinro. No, he's the best foreigner with Jinro who participated in the GSL, that isn't the same as being the best foreigner. There's really no metric for measuring who's the best foreigner. | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
Yes he is obviously bad, he was just the best foreigner in BW and is still the best foreigner on SC2 right now with jinro. is he? he's certainly one of them...but I'm not 100% convinced he's better than WhiteRa or Naniwa, let alone Jinro. Hell, even among Zergs, Dimaga has impressed me as much or more than IdrA. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On May 08 2011 03:40 Leavzou wrote: Yes he is obviously bad, he was just the best foreigner in BW and is still the best foreigner on SC2 right now with jinro. Not anymore.. He's probably the second best zerg foreigner though. That's not bad, but he's kind of overrated in that regard. Unless you go super subjective and just call him the best because he says so. Edit: Oh yeah dimaga... Well Sen and Dimaga are imo better zergs than Idra right now, so third best foreigner zerg! Other than that, in my opinion there's Naniwa, Thorzain, WhiteRa, Jinro, | ||
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zeru
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Ottoxlol
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On May 08 2011 03:40 Leavzou wrote: Yes he is obviously bad, he was just the best foreigner in BW and is still the best foreigner on SC2 right now with jinro. Following his "logic", if hes really the best, why doesnt he switch and win more $?  | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
On May 08 2011 03:54 zeru wrote: I don't think anyone can say that idras ignorance doesnt have an effect on some of his fans anymore after a statement like this. Idra isn't responsible for what his fans take from what he says/does. The person who suffers from Idra's attitude the most is Idra... By blaming his losses on balance he'll focus less on improving regardless of whether or not the game is actually balanced. | ||
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