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Thankfully I got the name I wanted! Bring chat channels!
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On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:Show nested quote +
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one.
Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it.
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Like many others have said in this thread as long as micro transactions don't come for gameplay variations and its only superficial stuff I'm all for it. Frankly I have no need to change my name, or have a different thor model (though the CE edition does look nice) it's not something I NEED to have. Now if they start adding units that you NEED to compete then yea that's where it becomes a problem. But with them wanting SC2 to become a pro-sport then I sincerely doubt that will happen.
So who cares.
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On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it.
Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions.
Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear.
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so they're allowing one free name change? I think thats a good idea, considering you only get one account (thus one name). Also, a lot of my friends that bought the game didnt realize the initally selected name was permanent, so it'd be nice to give them a second chance at coming up with a name
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On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear.
lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no?
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On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no?
No, which was the whole point =(
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On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =(
How fast would the horse go?
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On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go?
I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five:
First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running.
Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running.
Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running.
Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running.
Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running.
You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast.
God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point.
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On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point.
I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character.
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On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character.
Exactly. Thank you.
And also that even at level 1 you still need the training + a horse to actually get the gameplay benefit. The star horse by virtue of being a mount constitutes a part of that gameplay benefit and has a effect on gameplay. You can either get a mount OR buy one with real money.
Personally I played wow when you had to grind away for days to get enough gold to buy a horse. If you could pay $25 dollars to avoid all that well thats a problem.
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On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:
the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character.
From the Blizzard Support Pet Store FAQ:
Will these pets help me in combat?
No, these pets are strictly cosmetic. They have some fun animations and sound effects, but they will not help you in PvP or PvE.
(http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=29845)
And because of this, the mount does not affect gameplay.
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An unlimited amount of free name changes would be troll heaven. I support this decision.
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On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character.
Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument.
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On August 17 2010 09:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character. Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument.
Oh i get it. Its only alittle slippery at this part of the slope. It only affects gameplay alittle so its ok...
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On August 17 2010 09:52 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character. Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument. Oh i get it. Its only alittle slippery at this part of the slope. It only affects gameplay alittle so its ok...
You're neglecting the fact that WoW has also been out for 5 years and 99.99999% of people who play the game already have mounts which means they've already paid for everything. I could see maybe some semblance of an argument if you were talking about someone who has never played WoW before and is starting a new account AND decides to spend real money on this mount. That's such an infinitesimally small number of players affected it's not even worth considering.
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On August 17 2010 09:52 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character. Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument. Oh i get it. Its only alittle slippery at this part of the slope. It only affects gameplay alittle so its ok...
There's no advantage gained though.... So where you've been going with this has thrown me for a loop.
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On August 17 2010 10:03 Illison wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:52 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 09:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character. Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument. Oh i get it. Its only alittle slippery at this part of the slope. It only affects gameplay alittle so its ok... There's no advantage gained though.... So where you've been going with this has thrown me for a loop.
Not that it gives you a advantage. I never said that. That it has an effect on gameplay.
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On August 17 2010 10:05 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 10:03 Illison wrote:On August 17 2010 09:52 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 09:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character. Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument. Oh i get it. Its only alittle slippery at this part of the slope. It only affects gameplay alittle so its ok... There's no advantage gained though.... So where you've been going with this has thrown me for a loop. Not that it gives you a advantage. I never said that. That it has an effect on gameplay.
It. Has. No. Effect. On. Gameplay.
If you actually played the game you would understand that but you don't so you're arguing a non-existent fucking point. You're not going to find anyone to agree with you because you're flatout wrong. Seriously, stop.
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On August 17 2010 10:05 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 10:03 Illison wrote:On August 17 2010 09:52 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 09:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:37 TheYango wrote:On August 17 2010 09:32 Excalibur_Z wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2010 09:26 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 09:01 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 08:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:On August 17 2010 08:41 Archerofaiur wrote:On August 17 2010 07:49 PlosionCornu wrote:
If you dont have a mount how but you have learned 310% speed how fast do you go?
K now how fast do you go if youve learned 310% speed and payed for the horse?
There's no such thing like 310% Riding skill,or "driving license". It stops with the 280% one. Doesnt mattter. Still applies to the 280. The paid for mount, by virtue of being a mount, affects gameplay. You go faster with it than you would if you didnt have it. Except you have to pay the 5000g to be able to even get 280% riding speed. The star horse mount scales to your maximum allowable riding speed. If you don't have the capability to ride at a certain speed, the mount won't allow you to circumvent those restrictions. Just like you have to earn a 310% mount (via meta-achievements or something similar) before you can ride at 310%. Just having the mount doesn't affect gameplay whatsoever because you can't go any faster or do anything more than you'd ordinarily be able to do if you didn't have it. I thought the other posters were making this pretty clear. lol this really is side tracking the whole convo. If I had payed for 280% speed but had no horse I couldnt go 280 but if i than bought the star horse I could, no? No, which was the whole point =( How fast would the horse go? I don't know if you even play WoW, I'm assuming you don't, so here's a rundown on the different levels of riding. There are five: First level (lv 20): You can ride a mount, and it travels on the ground at 60% faster speed than running. Second level (lv 40): Your mount travels at 100% faster speed than running. Third level (lv 60): Your mount can fly and it travels at 150% faster speed than running. Fourth level (lv 70): Your mount can fly and it travels at 280% faster speed than running. Fifth level: Your mount can fly and it travels at 310% faster speed than running. You have to pay for the first four levels and they become available at the levels listed. The horse only goes 60% up until you reach level 40 and you pay for the second level of riding. It stays a ground mount until you pay for the third level of riding at level 60. It stays at 150% speed until you pay for the fourth level of riding at level 70. It stays at 280% speed until you unlock a 310% mount, then it goes that fast. God I hope this makes sense because it's becoming quite difficult and tedious to explain beyond this point. I believe I had this discussion with Archer in another thread. His point is that while it doesn't really influence what your character is capable of, the fact that the horse saves you 1/10/50/100g per character at each mount level *technically* is still a gameplay benefit. Even though those costs are basically negligible amounts at the levels you need them, even for a fresh character. Oh my god seriously =( You still have to pay for the training which is by far the most expensive part (5000g, 600g, however much epic and normal ground mounts cost now). To say that saving around 110g on mounts themselves affects gameplay is dubious at best and incendiary at worst. You can make 110g in like an hour now. I have like 40k gold across my characters and I'm not even close to the rich end of players. If that's Archer's best excuse for "affecting gameplay" then he needs to find a more solid argument. Oh i get it. Its only alittle slippery at this part of the slope. It only affects gameplay alittle so its ok... There's no advantage gained though.... So where you've been going with this has thrown me for a loop. Not that it gives you a advantage. I never said that. That it has an effect on gameplay.
What's the problem then? If it doesn't give one an advantage over another player, and only gives a "slight", "technical" effect on game play then I don't see a problem. It's not like people can go out get either of the mounts that you can buy, and expect to ride them without purchasing the more expensive skill.
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