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HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
August 13 2010 02:24 GMT
#81
Sure, this works on all protoss until they become Gold level, then it just isn't viable anymore. And when you face a silver protoss, you just don't need this, but you can just outplay him anyway, AND if you yourself is silver, you wont be able to pull this off anyway. Try it out if you do not believe me, there are no protoss above gold that would let this happen, especially if he contain you like that.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 13 2010 02:26 GMT
#82
Yeah this is pretty normal.... Ever since I saw Sen do it a looonngg time ago I try incorporating it now and then just to keep it fresh. I found that it's best to use it against gateway forge FE builds. Get the two gases early, tech to hive asap while getting roaches and some slings, and float an overlord above his natural and just at the edge of his base. He won't have enough time and units to kill both nyduses. He has to commit to killing one. It's a pretty hard counter to forge FE builds in my experience.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 02:37:18
August 13 2010 02:36 GMT
#83
On August 13 2010 10:20 omnigol wrote:
This is new and original and has nothing to do with the toss player not scouting and letting a changling block his entire army.



American does it -> lol gimmick
Korean does it months later -> genius and innovative.

*bashes head against wall*
Sup
archon256
Profile Joined August 2010
United States363 Posts
August 13 2010 02:38 GMT
#84
He was being sarcastic.
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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 13 2010 02:46 GMT
#85
so this is so good why exactly? because the toss failed to destroy the nydus before it finished (which can easily be done with workers)?

yeah right
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Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
August 13 2010 02:59 GMT
#86
On August 13 2010 11:46 heishe wrote:
so this is so good why exactly? because the toss failed to destroy the nydus before it finished (which can easily be done with workers)?

yeah right


Smart nydus placement forces your opponent's army out of position so you can either get a money nydus in that does big damage or splits up their army so your forces gain a positional advantage in an attack.

Smart placement also includes putting worms sufficiently away from worker lines so that your opponent needs to commit forces or suffer a significant economic hit to deal with the threat.
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
August 13 2010 04:30 GMT
#87
Why do so many Zerg assume that seeing/hearing a Nydus is all you need to do to stop it? You have to have units there too, you know. Also, what constitutes a successful Nydus? People tend to overreact to things like Drops and Nydus (usually pulling back their entire army), so Nydus could easily serve as a distraction. Otherwise, use some other tactic as the distraction FOR the Nydus.

How about this: Attack with your army. While that battle is going on, macro up whatever additional forces you can rallied to the Nydus and start a worm in their base (or at an expo). There is a decent chance they'll either be distracted and not see the Nydus, or, if they do see it, they might not be able to do anything about it. After or during said battle, put some units in his base.

It's always going to be a gamble, just like every other strategy and tactic in the game. Your goal is to find ways to raise the probability of success of said strategy/tactic.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 05:15:13
August 13 2010 05:12 GMT
#88
No, you don't need to split up your army, no you don't need any units there at all. You simply pull away 10 workers from your mineral line and they will destroy the nydus worm before any units come out. Guaranteed.

If you manage to split up your opponents army with nydus worms because he thinks he has to rush there with a ton of combat units just to prevent the enemy from getting inside his base, well then you're playing against a noob. But yes, currently that might work with a lot of players, as a lot of those "'Top Terrans" and "Top Protoss" are just one-basing noobs who will get felted once a few balance patches come out (or the expansions). Against non-retarded opponents who know a little bit what they're doing, it simply won't work.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 21:26:56
August 13 2010 21:25 GMT
#89
guys check this out



zvt

nice mindcontrol and nydus abuse from orly(nydus playin starts @ 8 min)
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