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KinD
Canada4 Posts
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
Also, JUST GO PLAY. Just say "fuck it". Lose on purpose. Do something completely stupid. Just bunker rush, or proxy pylon, or offensive hatchery for 3 games. Get that fear of losing out of the way. Even though you're confident, and you don't get angry at a loss, if you KNEW you were going to win, you would obviously be playing. Go lose a few on purpose, without just suiciding 6 workers right off the bat. So just go do some stupid strats, get those jitters out of the way, then when you're sick of losing, go win!!! | ||
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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
Step 2) close your eyes Step 3) click the left button on your mouse Step 4) dont move a muscle until you hear the coundown Step 5) Open your eyes and enjoy  Theres really no pressure man. Battle.net places you against people in or around your own skill level. Just enjoy it, if your screw it up and lose, repeat the steps and do it again. You can only get better by playing, practice means EXPERIENCE! Enjoy bro | ||
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moopie
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nira
United States116 Posts
try that and the links in the thread | ||
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SyN_FiR3
United States85 Posts
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MrJizz35
Canada6 Posts
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kyama
United States118 Posts
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
be a man! (even if you're a woman) | ||
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G3nXsiS
United States656 Posts
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:14 TheComeback wrote: Step 1) Hover mouse over the button Step 2) close your eyes Step 3) click the left button on your mouse Step 4) dont move a muscle until you hear the coundown Step 5) Open your eyes and enjoy STICKY PLS | ||
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muse5187
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
It's only a human at the other end. | ||
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Defeat
United States476 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:10 KinD wrote: Hey everyone, I don't know if you guys can help or give some words of advice/encouragement, but I've been following Team Liquid for a while now and have been in the beta and now own the game. But I'm so frustratingly afraid to press the Find Game button. I'm pretty confident in my ability to play, I'd guess I'm at low Platinum level, pretty decently. I want to become better, but for some reason, I can't sit down and play. Does it get easier? Am i just crazy? I want to improve, but it just seems so terrifying. I don't get angry when I lose, and am a pretty well mannered player, so I just don't get it. Can someone tell me how to get myself to just play the game?-_- Thanks. I know exactly what you mean. I'm in exactly the same situation. For me it's just because I've never been able to play games online since I've got horrible internet. SC2 is the first RTS game that I've actually cared to play seriously with. That and I've never played on an online ladder. What I've boiled it down to is that I'm afraid I'll actually do bad. What I'm trying to do is get myself to just sit down one day and play for a long time so I can get over that feeling. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
Play 2v2/3v3. Its much easier (at least for me) to lose a game in 2v2/3v3 and be like "oh well I should have done that lets play again) - and you can still focus on practicing certain things, like macro/micro or smoothing out build orders etc. And the avatars are cooler from team games. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:20 epik640x wrote: Why care so much? It's only a human at the other end. i think that's exactly why no one wants to feel inferior which means that the player is putting too much emphasis on winning and not enough emphasis on the process of getting there | ||
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The_Pacifist
United States540 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:21 kzn wrote: And the avatars are cooler from team games. I will never understand why the best avatars weren't reserved for 1v1... | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
Repeat that to yourself 10000 times. Then click find game. | ||
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Jermstuddog
United States2231 Posts
Pick random, limit myself to cheese strats, like stupid ones too. Proxy hatch -> spine crawlers Cannon rush 6 rax marine/SCV rush You will win some games and lose some games, but must of all you will have fun and realize that the wins/losses don't matter. SC is all about having fun and getting better. Wins and losses should be a by-product. | ||
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geetarzero
United States217 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:14 InfiniteIce wrote: relevant thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=135235 Also, JUST GO PLAY. Just say "fuck it". Lose on purpose. Do something completely stupid. Just bunker rush, or proxy pylon, or offensive hatchery for 3 games. Get that fear of losing out of the way. Even though you're confident, and you don't get angry at a loss, if you KNEW you were going to win, you would obviously be playing. Go lose a few on purpose, without just suiciding 6 workers right off the bat. So just go do some stupid strats, get those jitters out of the way, then when you're sick of losing, go win!!! InfiniteIce pretty much nailed it, you just need to have that "i don't give a shit"-attitude and just fuck around once in a while to lighten up and just realize that it doesn't matter if you lose. You might think that you have read up a lot on build orders, counters etc. and think that you can execute them perfectly and thus see it as a failure if you were to lose when you for the first time play another opponent, it will happen but it won't matter. Just play! | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Solution is very easy, as many suggested, just go and click that freaking button, dont even think about it.. For me, it was pretty stressful until I had solid build order, that I could execute properly, than it becomes much easier.. | ||
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Brad
2754 Posts
The player wants to improve, but he doesn't where to start, so he just ends up not playing at all because he's already mentally burnt out thinking about it. | ||
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Sly
Canada95 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:10 KinD wrote: Hey everyone, I don't know if you guys can help or give some words of advice/encouragement, but I've been following Team Liquid for a while now and have been in the beta and now own the game. But I'm so frustratingly afraid to press the Find Game button. I'm pretty confident in my ability to play, I'd guess I'm at low Platinum level, pretty decently. I want to become better, but for some reason, I can't sit down and play. Does it get easier? Am i just crazy? I want to improve, but it just seems so terrifying. I don't get angry when I lose, and am a pretty well mannered player, so I just don't get it. Can someone tell me how to get myself to just play the game?-_- Thanks. just play more custom games, I used to get worried about it. I started doing good and stopped careing. | ||
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:21 kzn wrote: An answer that departs from the "just play, dude" answer: Play 2v2/3v3. Its much easier (at least for me) to lose a game in 2v2/3v3 and be like "oh well I should have done that lets play again) - and you can still focus on practicing certain things, like macro/micro or smoothing out build orders etc. And the avatars are cooler from team games. This. I never go straight into 1v1s when I open SC2. I always have at least one game on Arakan Citadel (the main 3v3 map) to make sure I'm not playing terribly, and then go ladder. Just play anything where you feel there isn't something at stake, really. Also, doing stupid builds a bunch helps. I know that I used to be afraid of playing because, for some reason, I'd be embarrassed if I lost. If you can start to look at your losses and lol, then you're heading in the right direction. | ||
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
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threehundred
Canada911 Posts
I CAN! don't worry about winning unless your really want to win. in that case accept defeat as a minor set back on your journey to winning. | ||
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Spaceninja
United States211 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:14 InfiniteIce wrote: Also, JUST GO PLAY. Just say "fuck it". I took this approach and finally did my 1v1 placement matches. I went 2 and 3. Now I'm in Bronze. Also Cthulhu bit off my dick. Fuck it man lets bowl. | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
Here it is: "지고나서 후회하지 말자" - 임요환 "Don't regret after losing" Lim Yo-Hwan It is what i think of after a 7 loss streak, i think of it and get inspiration. and then i play, and win or lose, i dont really care as much now. and i play UMS occasionally too though. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
If you still find it fun and want to play deep down at least. | ||
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sNes.
United States377 Posts
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Deathstar
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Qwerty.
United States292 Posts
Not only will you no longer be afraid of starting a game, but you won't get all nervous/shaky | ||
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cornwell1961
Afghanistan56 Posts
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PSGMud
United States53 Posts
Men don't cater to their emotions, they make their emotions. | ||
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x7i
United Kingdom122 Posts
remember, all failure is just feedback + the game is fun x) | ||
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Veritassong
Canada393 Posts
Laddering is an experience, its like going out into the wilderness and surviving against all different kinds of situations. Over time you WILL get better. However if you don't ladder, in a short time there will be all new sorts of strategies that you will not learn, and you will only fall behind. Think of laddering as a practice. Like the posts above, you are nobody, and no one will care who you are. It's only when you face people who knows you then you become some body. So, you should ladder to be prepared for those situations where people actually know who you are (friendly 1v1? in-house tournament?). But in everyday laddering, no one gives a smack. Just play. | ||
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crfty
United States174 Posts
I play 3's and 4's with my friends so much, but I never can play and 1v1. I am 8-3 in platinum, and I also think I can keep a good win ratio up, but I just don't want to risk losing any games for some reason. It's like I want to be the best, so I can't lose any games, and if I play any games, I might lose them. :< | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:18 travis wrote: be a man! (even if you're a woman) We must be swift as the coursing river (Be a man) With all the force of a great typhoon (Be a man) With all the strength of a raging fire Mysterious as the dark side of the moon Time is racing toward us till the Huns arrive Heed my every order and you might survive You're unsuited for the rage of war So pack up, go home you're through How could I make a man out of you? Moral of the song. Join the army, become tuff, then become pro at Starcraft. | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2585 Posts
The person that looks for a shortcut is not a true professional. There is no shortcut to becoming the greatest progamer. Same can be said for truly improving as a SC2 enthusiast Read some: http://boxerbiography.blogspot.com/ | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
just make sure u dont make it so obvious. | ||
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
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Colts-500
United States13 Posts
btw has any one noticed that bnet pairs u with players who arent in the same TYPE of league (gold plat daimond) i find it kinda wierd | ||
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jekstarr
United States43 Posts
1v1s tend to give (me at least) more jitters because its all on one individual versus another. if i lose, its because the other player did something better or more effectively, and not because 12 marauders stimmed up my ramp while my CC was getting focused down by 4 void rays - something i would just shrug off and be like, 'oh well, thats stupid. forget that.' but no matter what the case, focus in on the fact that win or lose, you're going to get better at the game. even if you take some of the other advice in this topic like 6 pooling and proxy gating, your micro will improve. if you sit in your base and turtle up a ton of defense because youre scared of attacking your opponent, (hopefully) your macro will improve. some people prefer Lz-style gaming where they will just game after game after game, boom boom boom play play play no stopping in between, and some people prefer Trump-style gaming where they will take a short break after each game and think about what happened. I would suggest for you the slower, methodical style of looking at each game afterwards and analyze your own play a bit. its pretty soothing and can also help you improve your play :D both styles have their benefits, so just do whatever makes you comfortable and just try to enjoy as much of the game as you can. | ||
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LoLiver
United Kingdom22 Posts
I can't bring myself to play that much because of 'rage' issues but team games are often fun, but since your problem is just playing, I recommend what everyone else has said: Play team games, they are fun as hell and if you lose, it's ALL the other guys fault  plus they get you in the mood. I always play a match (or 2) after team games, they're not so bad after you've suffered a 2 player ling rush >.< | ||
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LazyScout
United States223 Posts
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
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lololol
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
[B] Also, JUST GO PLAY. Just say "fuck it". THIS - even if you lose 20 times in a row - you will reach a point where it onl will get better confidence is a nice thing to have | ||
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aznhockeyboy16
United States558 Posts
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
Brother, what we do in life, echoes in eternity. Take this, and fight | ||
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
Did blizzard mention if there will be ladder resets on a regular basis? | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
On August 12 2010 16:59 Anomarad wrote: You're not alone... this is the problem with only having 1 character per account. T_T Unlike iccup you can't just create another account to play around with or try a different race. Did blizzard mention if there will be ladder resets on a regular basis? I can't find the source ATM, but I seem to recall Blizzard saying there will be "ladder seasons", a la warcraft 3. Ladder seasons, of course, indicate stat resets prior to each season (while still keeping your overall record, icons, and silly achievements, etc. in your profile) Sooooooo stop caring so much and go play! Do some ridiculous shit. Hell, you might even win. Then you'll know it's not all about being the perfect executor of build orders etc. Also, sure there are some top players who are amazing in stats (take HuK for example, who was ~100-25 last I checked), but there are also some top diamond players who are around 150-100, just mass gaming. If you sit at 5-0, you'll be a noobie forever. JUST PLAYYYY. Hell, you might even incorporate some ridiculousness into your normal gameplay. Just go ONLY reapers one game. Soon you'll learn when the proper time to STOP making them is, and you have a viable opening. Really desperate? Go request a 1 week ban from a mod (oh they WILL indulge, believe me) so you can't post on these forums for a week. Then you'll have no choice but to play!!! | ||
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
Get lots of games on your 1v1 ladder! This way you are where you should be and can feel confident about winning about half your games or more whenever you log on! I've had friends stuck on 5-0 or 4-1 forever because they don't want to find out where they really belong... | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
He didn't want to care about stats. So he lost the first 15 games on purpose. That way he wont focus on stats but the game itself after. After that he went like 40-45 or so. | ||
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Ethic
Canada439 Posts
Nothing better than that... | ||
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houck
United Kingdom102 Posts
Have fun :3 | ||
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SC.Shifty
Canada135 Posts
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
Play zerg for a few times, then go back to terran and feel you fucking own the place. You can find out what really bothers you when playing. Realize, that it is the meaning you give winning or losing, or playing the game that kind of dictates how you feel. I made a smurf account with my guest pass, suddenly I would hit that play button bunch of times laughing my ass off. So the issue would be my statistics on my main account, like a good stat there would make me a better man.. Seriously, just drown your fucking ego like I did mine, and laugh at it while you do stupid strats like bunker rushing and all that shit. Also for the love of god pay attention to your breathing. Breath with your stomach. You might want to go down a few ladders so you can have the capability to both pay attention to your game and your breathing. | ||
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Macavity
United States83 Posts
It is not about winning. It is not about losing. It is about playing. The ladder is nonsense anyway and only fools take it seriously. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, the only thing that matters is that you play. I actually think this 'forced ladder' for all multiplayer games is a detriment to the experience. If there was no 'ladder', there would be no rage stories from people who lose. The ladder matching us up to people of equal skill level is a joke. Constantly, someone who is gold will be playing against people from silver, platinum, and even some diamond. It is ridiculous. | ||
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nanii
France30 Posts
because of that fear, haven't play 50 since the release of the game, prefering to play DotA which I'm better | ||
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
I've lost a fair share of cheesy games, but it is those games that you remember, and next time you see someone do something it will ring a bell and you can try to react. You reacted and still lost? Well, then you have to find out what you did wrong and try to do that better next time. I actually sometimes hope for the opponent to cheese me with a specific strat, so I can try improving against it. As long as you're not playing any tournaments, you should try to view each game as a way to improve against the specific strat played against you. Oh, and one last thing that might help: If you think the game was bad, don't force yourself to "gg". I actually found that quitting without gg'ing after a bad game is helping me not to get angry too much. I just think "Ok, this went bad, next one I'll try to do better" and then you just have to push the button. | ||
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
A player with a 5-0 record is perhaps better than a player with a 0-5 record, but the latter is progressing while the former is not. It's not about being the best. It's just about getting better. I would never hire a person who had never made a mistake. | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
Get used to losing, maybe cheese and goof around a bunch - just have fun. Then you'll have nothing to lose when you decide to go hardcore. | ||
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SiegeTheDay
Denmark1 Post
Apart from that the biggest problem i see right now is i wanna play perfect every match even though its not realistic, and i have no idea why im so hard on myself. It's a bit better now that i can see progress in the ladder, still it's the bigget hurddle to overcome. So what im saying is, dont be so hard on yourself if that's your problem, and secondly try changing race if you feel uncomfortable with your current race. It helped me a ton! | ||
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escobari
Finland192 Posts
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itmeJP
United States1101 Posts
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FC.Strike
United States621 Posts
On August 12 2010 20:16 itmeJP wrote: I actually have the same problem but its mostly because when I join a game, someone asks "MLG?" and I reply "yeah hi!," act as mannered as possible, then end up getting insanely upset if I lose and gg and leave. I really should get a smurf account. I realized just now I probably look like a giant douche typing this haha sorry! I asked you if you were from MLG and then you baneling busted me >.< | ||
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Melt
Switzerland281 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:10 KinD wrote: Hey everyone, I don't know if you guys can help or give some words of advice/encouragement, but I've been following Team Liquid for a while now and have been in the beta and now own the game. But I'm so frustratingly afraid to press the Find Game button. I'm pretty confident in my ability to play, I'd guess I'm at low Platinum level, pretty decently. I want to become better, but for some reason, I can't sit down and play. Does it get easier? Am i just crazy? I want to improve, but it just seems so terrifying. I don't get angry when I lose, and am a pretty well mannered player, so I just don't get it. Can someone tell me how to get myself to just play the game?-_- Thanks. Being afraid to loose is very common. Just explain to yourself what happens if you loose, which is pretty much nothing. You win some, you loose some, that's the way life works. | ||
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Incinerate
Austria36 Posts
If youre enjoying the game, go for it. When youre getting angry all the time, there are better activities for you out there. | ||
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itmeJP
United States1101 Posts
On August 12 2010 20:22 FC.Strike wrote: I asked you if you were from MLG and then you baneling busted me >.< Haha I probably lost that game too | ||
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Spaceninja
United States211 Posts
On August 12 2010 18:05 Macavity wrote: You get nervous because you treat the video game as an ego machine. This is why people rage when they lose. Their ego is too tied up into what happens in the game. It is not about winning. It is not about losing. It is about playing. The ladder is nonsense anyway and only fools take it seriously. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, the only thing that matters is that you play. I actually think this 'forced ladder' for all multiplayer games is a detriment to the experience. If there was no 'ladder', there would be no rage stories from people who lose. The ladder matching us up to people of equal skill level is a joke. Constantly, someone who is gold will be playing against people from silver, platinum, and even some diamond. It is ridiculous. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! You just blew my mind! I'm going to write that down and post it on the fridge. | ||
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misterG420
Germany152 Posts
Although I played on iccup a bit and i kind of got used to the mental block, I still have it in sc2. Guess it's just a personal thing that you should put aside. But music helps to put something different in the focus: Enjoying the time, the music and the game. It's just a big mess that you can't choose your games when you're having a bad day in one match-up... | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
Saying gl hf at the start of the match puts me in the right frame of mind. However, it's taking two breaths and saying gg at the end of the match that really helps me contextualize losing. Try to never rage quit. Even if someone is being bad mannered to you. Even if they offensive gg. GG for you. Because when you take a deep breath and gg, I've found that it really helps you take the loss and say "ok, I made mistakes, but the other guy still had to take advantage of those mistakes, congrats to him." Other things I do when I lose is look at the league of the person that beat me. If it's higher or a higher position in my league or some obscene win ratio then it helps me deal with it. Mostly because I know I was outskilled, but that the game feels I'm talented enough to play that competition and have the chance to prove myself. Also, when I lose I rewatch the replay. Not to see what I did wrong, but to see what the other guy did so right. Especially in mirror matches. I look for interesting build orders, I look for little things I should've noticed that could've tipped me off to what he was doing. I look to see if there were hidden expansions I didn't scout. All sorts of different things so that I increase my general knowledge of what my opponents are doing. As you can see these are all approaches to take the focus off of you and put it on your opponent and the game circumstances itself. When you lose it's not always you failing, just like when you win it's not always the other guy failing. The more you take the focus off personal failings the better off you'll be in trying to cope with playing and losing because it won't be tied directly to your ego. The last tip is just that if you go on an epic losing streak to take a break, clear your head, and then return instead of tilting. And NEVER BM or rage quit. It really won't make you feel better. Just say GG to the cannon rush or proxy and leave. Waste of a game, but oh well, no one ladder game is that important. Not worth carrying around bad mojo. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
yes it is bad when you lose and yes you should be afraid of losing; this is what keeps your mind focussed and helps you to concentrate; remember school/university-exams, did you only once study hard when it really did not matter? eg. if your teacher told you this was a "practice exam" that won't count? playing custom games is nice for trying out new strats but your mind will never be as focussed as when playing ladder; it's not the fear of losing that's bad but the fact that most people can't deal with it; many will just go like "oh this fucking shit noob abused imba stuff" and won't watch their replays too see which things they could improve in their game; if you don't play and lose you can perfectly delude yourself thinking "I'm actually pretty good, if I just wanted I could own everybody" no offense, but this is EXACTLY what men do who are afraid of talking to girls: they just stand around in a corner at a party the whole time and in the end go home alone thinking "hmm...I'm a real pimp, if I just wanted I could've had any girl in the room" playing games doing ridiculous stuff is actually a really good idea, because this way you can start getting used to the fealing of losing without beating yourself up too hard; again, it's the same advice I have given my friends who were too afraid of just talking to girls on the street: "go up to the prettiest girl and just start talking complete nonsense"; this way they will crash and burn several times and get rid of their self-consciousness; this is what you have to achieve: if you want to improve you HAVE to take the game seriously and you should be sour if your opponent was better; the trick is, to not let it get to you in a way that completely messes you up | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
GET SOME NUTS! It should be fun to play sc2 what's so scary? ;p | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:10 KinD wrote: Hey everyone, I don't know if you guys can help or give some words of advice/encouragement, but I've been following Team Liquid for a while now and have been in the beta and now own the game. But I'm so frustratingly afraid to press the Find Game button. I'm pretty confident in my ability to play, I'd guess I'm at low Platinum level, pretty decently. I want to become better, but for some reason, I can't sit down and play. Does it get easier? Am i just crazy? I want to improve, but it just seems so terrifying. I don't get angry when I lose, and am a pretty well mannered player, so I just don't get it. Can someone tell me how to get myself to just play the game?-_- Thanks. Just remember that your opponents don't know who you are, don't care who you are and whatever happens in the game don't really matter. Someone calls you something rude? Who cares, he doesn't know you. He thinks you can't play? Why should you trust someone you have never met and probably will never meet again? I agree with the people that say you should just think "Fuck it!" The worst thing that can happen is that you get one more loss on your record. It's basically the same as when you were (or maybe you are) young and starts to ask girls out. As nervous as you are, at some point you just go for it, and the more times you do it the easier it gets. Ignore the fear and just press the button. Most likely it will go away with time. | ||
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Boona
Sweden45 Posts
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Aeropunk
Australia255 Posts
Most people will tell you something you need to work on too, so just GG and ask! | ||
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KinD
Canada4 Posts
or else I'll be back here -_-.PS. JP McDaniel?? HES FAMOUS. | ||
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Marksman
Malaysia523 Posts
I lost 3 games in a row (PvP 2 ZvP) and now i shall temporarily to Terran which my TvP seems capable for 2 game wins lol. I need to read more build orders, I'm not doing my defenses right lol. | ||
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KinD
Canada4 Posts
I played my goal of 10 games today, (i know, low standards) but all of your advice has helped me immeasurably. Hopefully I can keep it up. Btw, I went 3-7 and 1 of the wins doesn't count. But, I learned and am growing, slowly. 20 games tomorrow . If anyone wants to practice. info: Kind / 809Thanks again | ||
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scott desu
United States34 Posts
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dotFX
United States131 Posts
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DemiSe
883 Posts
Defeat is nothing to be scared of, what matters is if you can get up after. -Kaibaman | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 12 2010 21:18 nihlon wrote: Just remember that your opponents don't know who you are, don't care who you are and whatever happens in the game don't really matter. Someone calls you something rude? Who cares, he doesn't know you. He thinks you can't play? Why should you trust someone you have never met and probably will never meet again? I agree with the people that say you should just think "Fuck it!" The worst thing that can happen is that you get one more loss on your record. It's basically the same as when you were (or maybe you are) young and starts to ask girls out. As nervous as you are, at some point you just go for it, and the more times you do it the easier it gets. Ignore the fear and just press the button. Most likely it will go away with time. for some people they do know who you are about half my games the other player goes "team liquid??" (being that my name is LiquidTravis) I go "yeah" they go "oh shit im gonna lose" or w/e then i lose because they are better than me and i get the addition of feeling like a loser cuz im supposed to be awesome cuz my name has liquid in it LOL also lots of them just know who i am from the forums of course this is all fine and good if you're actually awesome like TLO or nony but im not that awesome | ||
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Cyn.ful
United States89 Posts
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Noev
United States1105 Posts
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SugarBear
United States842 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:15 moopie wrote: If you are hesitant to run 1v1s, find a friend and run 2v2/3v3/4v4. If you have a good group, team laddering often ends up pretty fun. I also recommend this. Play a bunch of team games and focus on solid play to shake the rust off. | ||
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Kahnqueror
United States52 Posts
I get too worked up and frustrated over the games, especially when I lose. I don't really look forward to being angry and frustrated and worked up, so I can't bring myself to play. I'm afraid that I will just lose a bunch of games and get really, really angry... I have no idea how to stop feeling this way =( There's some pretty good advice in this thread, but when I lose, I still feel like... "wow, I suck at this game, I should probably stop playing." | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
I know most of this was because I had a night shift and only got 4 hours of sleep, so I messed up my builds and just generally played bad, but still, I fear playing more now, because I'm afraid of being demoted to gold, instead of promoted to diamond, which it seemed like I was going to be. :/ | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
I get nervous myself but then I just tell myself that if I lose or win it doesn't really matter because based on my fundamental skill level I will be where I belong to be anyway. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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fenster
United States73 Posts
On August 12 2010 21:40 Boona wrote: The proper way to ladder in SC2 is to after a win calmly check the stat screen a bit, look up your opponent to check his ladder rank etc, just collect yourself, then hit search again. When you lose, quickly rage quit (might wanna include some bm here) and mash your mouse button really fucking hard and fast on the multiplayer and search button while cussing out b.net 2 for being so god damn slow and ignore the replay and stat screen. It's worked for me so far, but I do get a lot of losing streaks... LOL, that is the quintessential Starcraft player. This happens to me as well, but as I've been playing more games each loss grows more and more insignificant and I generally feel less anxiety about playing matches. I'm now at about 70 games played and I don't really fear losing at all. In fact sometimes I'm glad I lost, because those games allow me to focus more on what I did wrong. When you win, sometimes it can be difficult to look at what you could have done to be better. So my advice would be fight through it, it gets easier. Watching replays after your matches is great for calming yourself down and getting better at the game. | ||
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icydergosu
528 Posts
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blackodd
Sweden451 Posts
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bubusls
Romania61 Posts
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
On August 13 2010 05:43 icydergosu wrote: You need to be more like Rocky and less like Robert Balboa Jr. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfXw-E7HUq8 anyone else find this oddly helpful? | ||
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Zalias
Lithuania79 Posts
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-Desu-
Turkey173 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:30 prOxi.swAMi wrote: Nobody cares if you win or lose, you are nobody. Repeat that to yourself 10000 times. Then click find game. This is best method. And the super thing about this is if you became really somebody in sc2 scene you will keep your modesty, you won't be come an ego monster...... really try this. | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
Yea watch this movie long time ago and didn't remeber that scene XD | ||
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DuneBug
United States668 Posts
seriously though i hate playing 1v1... I feel really bad when I win. Like guilty, for making the other guy lose. Well, not always. friendly matches are different though. | ||
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qazqwezxc
Canada91 Posts
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rifi
United States74 Posts
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ZodiakLucien
United States14 Posts
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
I know the OPs pain all too well having experienced it through SC1 and Wc3, but it's way different with Starcraft2 because no matter how good you are the game will always even you out to around 50-60% win ratio, so unless you're in the top 0.1% of players who just beat everyone your record is going to get roughly the same amount of wins and losses no matter how well you play. | ||
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yesplz
United States295 Posts
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sNes.
United States377 Posts
 now im #1 Diamond because i won while crying hysterically and eating smores | ||
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Jenslyn87
Denmark527 Posts
What helped me was realizing a couple of things - You are the only one who gives a shit about your ranking. - You are only afraid to lose because your ego makes you afraid so to speak. You need to just not give a shit about that and look at the game as a game, not as something to inflate your ego with. Also, two techniques: - Sit down one day and play a shitload of games. Just tell yourself that you will play for 4-6 hours straight 1v1 and just go for it. You will lose, and you will lose several times, but it will help loosen you up. - Practice another race ON THE LADDEr. This helped me so much. I switched from Z to P just a few days ago, and I just said to hell with it, told everyone I was playing P now and just going directly on the ladder. You will get your ass kicked, but you won't care so much and you will begin to take your ladder score less seriously. This helped me tremendously | ||
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
I dont need to say nothing more... | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + lol not really, i'm still stuck at plat around 60'ish but at least i don't mind losing any more ... and i say "gg" in every game no matter what are thrown at me ... actually i said fag once and lifted up my CC and flew it to the corner of the map and left for dinner because this toss canon rush me twice in a row ;( i knew it was all lame and shit but it felt fucking terrible back then I just couldn't help it | ||
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shin ken
Germany612 Posts
Your phone rings -> skip the game You feel like you have to go to the bathroom -> skip the game You don't like your opening -> skip the game You opponent starts flaming or annoys you in any way -> skip the game You won the game but your opponent turtles or hides buildings -> skip the game once you fucked up your stats that way, you'll actually don't mind losing on the ladder. nobody gives a shit about your stats anyway. | ||
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latan
740 Posts
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
On August 13 2010 06:40 DuneBug wrote: play 3v3's until it doesnt bother you as much. i believe the point is to no longer play 3v3's, cause i do it to avoid 1v1's, even though i want to play them, just scared. | ||
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SpaceYeti
United States723 Posts
The only way to do this is to lose a lot of games. Actually, losses always help me learn more than wins. Lose a bunch of games and watch the replays. | ||
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
Reading just one sentence from one of u guys is like a pat in the bak to keep me going. | ||
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Rokit5
236 Posts
Yea this is really cool Will for sure try this out, even though i know no such fear. | ||
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Mios
United States686 Posts
The weird thing is, I didn't have this problem in wc3. Sitting in my clan channel searching for games and chatting with my friends about my games or their games after we finish is a pretty chill environment; I could pretty much mass 1v1 all day, whether it was BNet ladder or a custom 1v1 with a clanmate. Having no chat or clan functionality in SC2 just makes me feel alone, which gives me less motivation to try to get better than others. Sure I have friends on IRC and MSN that I chat with about sc2 sometimes, but we're barely ever gathered in one place chatting and playing with eachother. This is an annoying problem and it's the reason why so many SC2 players watch streams/replays and read forums ten times more than they actually play. Chat channels may not be the only reason we often hesitate to click the "Play Game" button, but it's certainly a contributing factor. | ||
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Yeidan
Canada8 Posts
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AbsentLover
Romania84 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
I feel like every loss will set me farther away from Diamond and win doesn`t guarantee anything ;(edit:WooHooo I am a friggin Guardin ^^ | ||
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JQL
United States214 Posts
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On August 14 2010 00:20 Jakalo wrote: I just want something like 8:1 in 1v1 , reached 1st in my platinum and now I am dont want to spoil it, why I am not being promoted I feel like every loss will set me farther away from Diamond and win doesn`t guarantee anything ;(edit:WooHooo I am a friggin Guardin ^^ Being first in your division is meaningless for being promoted. In fact, the people that will eventually be at the top of their division will never be promoted. They'll be ~50% win record (in other words, be where they're supposed to be) and just accumulating points through mass games. Don't worry, you can be promoted from 100th place in a division (theoretically, practically it'd have to be a really unique division for that to happen) or from 1st, it doesn't matter. Just play. The rest will take care of itself. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On August 14 2010 00:32 Takkara wrote: Being first in your division is meaningless for being promoted. In fact, the people that will eventually be at the top of their division will never be promoted. They'll be ~50% win record (in other words, be where they're supposed to be) and just accumulating points through mass games. Don't worry, you can be promoted from 100th place in a division (theoretically, practically it'd have to be a really unique division for that to happen) or from 1st, it doesn't matter. Just play. The rest will take care of itself. Yeah I know that, its just I have been playing mainly against Diamonf now so its that 50% win record I am trying to achieve/preserve, dunno. | ||
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JudoChopper
England148 Posts
Of course you want to keep game sound on to warn of attacks/other game events. | ||
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skipdog172
United States331 Posts
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:16 kyama wrote: Try to play for fun and not about your stats. I think that should help you, that's what helped me. I really agree with this. I've also felt this way before when I was actually in beta. I was worried that I was going to be stuck in copper forever. After playing numerous matches, as well as watching a ton of replays, I ended up getting out of Copper and into Gold before beta ended. When the game released, I played rather shitty during my placement matches and landed in Bronze. I was deathly afraid to play because I started to doubt that I was any good to begin with. I then started having the mentality that kyama was talking about, just basically not giving a fuck about what rank I was in and play my game. I rolled through Bronze players, like I thought I would, and spent only a night in Silver before getting bumped back into Gold. Now I'm playing low Plat players, exactly where I feel I should be. I would have never gotten to that point if I hadn't just thrown caution to the wind, let my hair down, take off my top and whip it around... err.. well... you get what I'm trying to say. Good luck. Have fun. | ||
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wuddersup
United States228 Posts
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
On August 14 2010 01:34 wuddersup wrote: It's easier to talk to girls than search 1v1 ladder that statement makes me wonder if all the people in here who suggest he should lose a lot of games on purpose used this logic irl and went up to girl after girl and said "yo bitch wanna go out with me? don't worry about your ugly face, we'll put a paperbag on that np np" or "yo I'm freaking desperate, I need to get some pussy tonight girl, wanna come to my hotel room?" until they got rejected so many times that they didn't think it mattered anymore. | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
It is VERY important that you decide before match what strategy you will employ. Pick Protoss as race and do 4-gate all-in's. Its the most powerful all-in. Grab some replays of good players like HuK and copy. Practice it first against computer or custom games with n00bs or whatever until you feel you can do it blindfolded. It's all I do and now I'm in Diamond. ( This is probably the story of many Protoss Diamond League players lol. ) | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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eH
88 Posts
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ohaicami
United States103 Posts
On August 14 2010 02:01 eH wrote: Some days I feel exactly the same, but once I play a game or two I get crazy into it, look up, and realize its now 4 in the morning. Yep, then at that point, you're not so much afraid, but tired as fuck. | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
This is another reason why I don't want people to be able to change their names all the time without any consequences or fee. In Warcraft 3 I knew a shit ton of people who were afraid of playing especially because of their stats. So they ended up with literally 20+ Accounts with each ~20games. Just try to get over it ;f | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
Lost 9 games in a row last night. All due to stupid cheesing / lousy scouting from me. After that I took a 1 hour break and just went through my mind all the wrong things I did and where I could have payed attention / done better. After the break went on a 10 game winning streak. Was almost affraid to play but I just put myself into playing but with a cool head. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On August 13 2010 03:36 scott desu wrote: I have this problem too, i just remind myself that my opponent will also be a human sitting in a chair in front of a computer screen. and they they will also only start with 6 workers and a base. Lol this is so much win :D I also play a lot less 1vs1s than multis, even if I'm the best of our group of friends xd Btw this matchmaking is utter garbage, we are at silver at 4vs4 and sometimes we play gold/plat lol. | ||
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JiSu
Korea (South)140 Posts
I used to be and sometimes like this too.. I know my ability surpasses my opponents, my macro/micro is better but sometimes my hands would shake and result in a misclick and get a loss. | ||
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gakkgakk
Norway902 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
but for start2, i say just grow a pair and go for it.. this game doesnt get really hard till you hit diamond.. (then again, it depends on your skill level) | ||
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GagnarTheUnruly
United States655 Posts
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
Just start playing as many games as possible. Not blindly, mind you; make sure you watch the replays and figure out what you did wrong/right so you get better. It might be shitty at first while you get used to it, but playing a lot of games is really the only way to get more comfortable doing so. | ||
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
Now I could care less about it and I've lost the fear of losing. I play random but my zerg play is so bad compared to T/P that I lose a good 60% of my zerg matches. I don't care b/c I am improving :D | ||
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Buffy
Sweden665 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:18 travis wrote: dude, losing is how you improve be a man! (even if you're a woman) hahaha :D | ||
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monitz87
16 Posts
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-HellZerg-
United States409 Posts
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:14 InfiniteIce wrote: relevant thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=135235 Also, JUST GO PLAY. Just say "fuck it". Lose on purpose. Do something completely stupid. Just bunker rush, or proxy pylon, or offensive hatchery for 3 games. This actually helped me early on. I was scared all through beta and then some time after release. Once i "accepted losing" and did dumb stuff, lost almost on purpose, the fear wore off. Sure, i get frustrated when im building up my 2nd hatch and protoss starts marching in with something that no army of zerglings could ever hope to handle, but it happens. Just get used to it. once you are over that hump, it gets a lot more fun. | ||
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-HellZerg-
United States409 Posts
On August 17 2010 02:53 AirbladeOrange wrote: I often think to myself, "what's the worst that could happen?" I can lose. That possibility should not govern my decision whether or not to play 1v1s. Yeah, I agree. As soon as you have those kinds of thoughts, your fingers slow down a bit and don't bring optimal level of mechanics to play your games as best as possible. Also, this may be one of those reasons why one player who had so many advantages over one's opponent loses in the end. I think it's important not to get too emotional when playing 1v1 ladder games. Just keep your head cool and focus on every detail in real-time meticulously. | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
Just go play and if you have a bad streak bnet will give you total scrubs just to make u feel better and get some wins again. Its actually made so that everyone will end up around 55% win ratio so dont worry about losing! | ||
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
that's what i did! | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
I somehow pressured myself into a "you need to be good, because all your friends, which you beat consistently, are in gold/platinum" mindset. And I was scared I'd be placed in a low league (like bronze). What I did to do the placement matches: Alcohol. I drunk 4 bottles of beer and just played all 5 placement matches. No fear of loosing thanks to the alc | ||
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anon195
15 Posts
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exarchrum
United States491 Posts
I'm only a high gold player right now. My lack of fundamentals often loses me the game so conventional thinking would say playing more would help the fundamentals but theres a deep reluctance. Its a very similar feeling to stage fright for me.Edit: @ Zocat, just read your post. I tried playing after having like four beers and was so sloppy with my mechanics! I had to stop myself from playing. | ||
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RoarMan
Canada745 Posts
I was in a huge slump and deathly afraid to play, but I convinced myself that if I'm scared of playing Starcraft 2 because of Win/Lose, I'm not enjoying the game. So I did Step 1) Hover mouse over the button Step 2) close your eyes Step 3) click the left button on your mouse Step 4) dont move a muscle until you hear the coundown Step 5) Open your eyes and enjoy I kind of stopped caring about my rank in the division and have continued to play to improve my skills, after all your rank is an evaluation of your skill, not the other way around. glandhf :D | ||
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
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accaris
98 Posts
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ecDIESEL
United States132 Posts
On August 17 2010 07:22 RoarMan wrote: I think one of the best ways to not be afraid to play is NEVER EVER LOOK AT YOUR RANK OR WIN/RATIO. Although I've never done so per-say.. I was in a huge slump and deathly afraid to play, but I convinced myself that if I'm scared of playing Starcraft 2 because of Win/Lose, I'm not enjoying the game. So I did I kind of stopped caring about my rank in the division and have continued to play to improve my skills, after all your rank is an evaluation of your skill, not the other way around. glandhf :D This is how I get too. When I play games that show your win/lose ratio or your ranking, especially when it's right on the front of your profile for everyone to see, I tend to get nervous and play less because I don't want people to think I'm terrible. I didn't play any games for like a week after I finished my placement matches because I went 5-0 and got into platinum. I got stuck thinking "this is the best it's ever going to be. I've got 5 games and 5 wins and I'm actually in platinum." Eventually though I just convince myself that I don't care if I drop out of platinum and play anyway. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
when i got into a solid rhythm with it it was much easier to just keep playing, anytime it took a long time to search or i alt tabbed to check something or anything like that it killed my flow and my will to play | ||
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nka203
United States102 Posts
Do new and stupid things, see what works and what doesn't and eventually you'll know so many things that work you'll move up the ladder in no time. My buddy at lan party (both mid-level diamond players) beat me with 8 infestors spamming infested terrans over my sentries' forcefields. I had never seen that before so I just laughed and said gg. Then I realized the game is more fun when people are always trying stupid things. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
with that said, i've played over 100 custom games (income/nexus wars, money map) and only 30 league games lol i got into diamond and been taking a break, playing random 3s or 2, 3s with friends. i gotta rid of my "need to win" since my record is presented, its hard to do with a competitive mind | ||
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Aeroz135
48 Posts
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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sage_francis
France1823 Posts
On August 12 2010 14:14 TheComeback wrote: Step 1) Hover mouse over the button Step 2) close your eyes Step 3) click the left button on your mouse Step 4) dont move a muscle until you hear the coundown Step 5) Open your eyes and enjoy I just realize i was loosing all my games cause i inverted steps 5 and 2... | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
Play to get better and have fun, not to win(though winning usally makes stuff more fun)! | ||
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Tritonus
Denmark125 Posts
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