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On August 03 2010 14:20 Baarn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 03 2010 11:05 LaLuSh wrote:
Had a pleasant chat with Mr. Stabguy (aka Ownage) after my 3rd loss (I left the game immediately the 3rd game). Don't think he minds me posting, prolly likes the attention. Seems like he has another exploit ready for when Blizzard patches this one.
StabGuy: why did you leave
StabGuy has reconnected.
You: why? should i wait for you to dischack me or what?
StabGuy: we could've had a nice talk
You: So you the same guy who made the farm hack?
StabGuy: maybe
You: Guess you're using a guest pass huh?
StabGuy: yea
You: Nice move by blizzard...
Infinite free cheating
StabGuy: haha
I ruin em kids their stats
You: Are you Ownage?
Saw that account just got taken down.
StabGuy: Yes
It's still up
It was created with a guest pass aswell
You: Oh. Blizzard were serious about cracking down on hacking weren't they? How long do you figure it'll take them?
StabGuy: I dont know
if they were serious there would be a patch for this flaw already
so
make em release a patch and dischack will be gone
:p
You: You got no backup exploit ready to use?
StabGuy: huh
I can just find a new one
I'm aware of a flaw already
You: Yea... that's what I mean.
StabGuy: which can be exploited
so Dischack will be there for a while
;p
You: =)
How long before you get tired of SC2 and start plaguing some other game?
StabGuy has disconnected.
StabGuy has reconnected.
You: Hey how come you lose games sometimes? People antihack you?
StabGuy: no
trying to get into diamond
You: Ah.
StabGuy: but mh
seems like APM, game length etc
is taken into acocunt
so people who rush dont get into diamond
this is one way of exploring blizzs algo
You: Personally just think it takes time before they re-assess your level.
StabGuy: well what ever
I go to bed now
enjoy
You: nice.
StabGuy: going to continue this afternoon
You: thanks.
StabGuy: :p
nps
bye
StabGuy has disconnected. The page you were looking for either doesn’t exist or some terrible, terrible error has occurred. Stabguy aka ownage got owned. The end.
nvm.
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On August 03 2010 13:57 Slardarxt wrote:
So, just how bad is the situation now? Just one person hacking or many people are exploiting left and right?
Its just one guy, using his own code. not every 12y old cheating.
Honestly they should just make it so guest accounts can't ladder. they can do custom games to test 1v1 2v2s etc.
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On August 03 2010 14:29 Baarn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 14:26 Nub4ever wrote:Why blizz :  why'd you make guest passes... Or can't they IP ban him? If this continues the only thing that will change is that guest passes won't be allowed to ladder and it mean anything. It'll just be for campaign. Hackers will just have to pay for the game like everyone else to test their code.
i already thought this was the deal till i saw this. i though guest passes could only be used for custom games or something, because ladder makes them too abusable.
and also the the player above asking about ip bans. they could but if they are using a laptop they can just switch to a neighbors router or something and can get them in trouble and not allow them to play.( we need to use neighbors connection because our router is wierd and our laptop cant connect to it) but if he was using a computer then this could work but no real way to know right? and cant know if his connection is even his own, you dont know if a router is distibuted by ethernet through apartments or dorms or whatever(no clue if this happens but who knows)
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On August 03 2010 12:02 meRz wrote:
Game has been out for a week today and someones already figured out how to abuse the code, fucking great job.
Why does people suddenly forget that there was a beta before the release? It's not like they've only had a week to make these hacks, people have been analyzing the network protocol and game client for SC2/Bnet2 since early spring.
Blizzard should take a hint from the computer security industry, and find some of these people who have grown up a bit, and hire them. I'm sure there are some around who wrote hacks for the original SC, and are good at what they do, who have grown up and realized that there is better thing to do than randomly causing mayhem in online games. Such people are ideal to have on a development team, to analyze and assess the weakness of the game.
Finally, you will always have the highest volume of bugs and problems in the early phases of a software release. As time passes, the software matures, and the number of known faults decrease. Sure, you can still get the really bad ones, but it gets less and less likely.
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On August 03 2010 14:49 dragon_rom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 14:29 Baarn wrote:On August 03 2010 14:26 Nub4ever wrote:Why blizz : why'd you make guest passes... Or can't they IP ban him? If this continues the only thing that will change is that guest passes won't be allowed to ladder and it mean anything. It'll just be for campaign. Hackers will just have to pay for the game like everyone else to test their code. i already thought this was the deal till i saw this. i though guest passes could only be used for custom games or something, because ladder makes them too abusable. and also the the player above asking about ip bans. they could but if they are using a laptop they can just switch to a neighbors router or something and can get them in trouble and not allow them to play.( we need to use neighbors connection because our router is wierd and our laptop cant connect to it) but if he was using a computer then this could work but no real way to know right? and cant know if his connection is even his own, you dont know if a router is distibuted by ethernet through apartments or dorms or whatever(no clue if this happens but who knows)
Or just restart his router to get a new ip. Private internet connections usually don't have a static ip.
They could ban his entire hardware (10$ for a new networks card is cheap so banning the mac-address of his card ist not really useful), but I guess that's not really legal.
Also they could just patch it, or let their servers control the data sent by the clients...
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On August 03 2010 15:08 SB.Legendary wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 14:49 dragon_rom wrote:On August 03 2010 14:29 Baarn wrote:On August 03 2010 14:26 Nub4ever wrote:Why blizz : why'd you make guest passes... Or can't they IP ban him? If this continues the only thing that will change is that guest passes won't be allowed to ladder and it mean anything. It'll just be for campaign. Hackers will just have to pay for the game like everyone else to test their code. i already thought this was the deal till i saw this. i though guest passes could only be used for custom games or something, because ladder makes them too abusable. and also the the player above asking about ip bans. they could but if they are using a laptop they can just switch to a neighbors router or something and can get them in trouble and not allow them to play.( we need to use neighbors connection because our router is wierd and our laptop cant connect to it) but if he was using a computer then this could work but no real way to know right? and cant know if his connection is even his own, you dont know if a router is distibuted by ethernet through apartments or dorms or whatever(no clue if this happens but who knows) Or just restart his router to get a new ip. Private internet connections usually don't have a static ip. They could ban his entire hardware (10$ for a new networks card is cheap so banning the mac-address of his card ist not really useful), but I guess that's not really legal. Also they could just patch it, or let their servers control the data sent by the clients...
You can't see the MAC address after the first hop, so that is not solution. Besides, you can change that on a lot of commodity hardware.
IP range ban is possible, but that is no guarantee, and would affect a lot of innocent people.
The best solution would be if it was possible to see, unambiguously, from the data sent to the server at the end of the game, that the exploit had been used, and autoban based on that.
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On August 03 2010 15:06 MasterZilla wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 12:02 meRz wrote:
Game has been out for a week today and someones already figured out how to abuse the code, fucking great job. Why does people suddenly forget that there was a beta before the release? It's not like they've only had a week to make these hacks, people have been analyzing the network protocol and game client for SC2/Bnet2 since early spring. Blizzard should take a hint from the computer security industry, and find some of these people who have grown up a bit, and hire them. I'm sure there are some around who wrote hacks for the original SC, and are good at what they do, who have grown up and realized that there is better thing to do than randomly causing mayhem in online games. Such people are ideal to have on a development team, to analyze and assess the weakness of the game. Finally, you will always have the highest volume of bugs and problems in the early phases of a software release. As time passes, the software matures, and the number of known faults decrease. Sure, you can still get the really bad ones, but it gets less and less likely.
No matter how much cash you throw at the problem by hiring people to make anti hacks you will always have people out there trying to discover a new method of obtaining a workaround to some end be it cheating, like in this case. Best method is to find out what they are doing be it through company investigation by looking at the top of ladders in this case or have people send in tickets to open an investigation about the activities on the account. That creates a reason to lock the account at least so the hacker doesn't cause more damage, in the case of a video game. The adventure cost the coder $60 if they'd disable laddering on trial accounts.
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Wow, this is really sad.
Just sad. (
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They just need to fix guest accounts. that would solve most of the hacking.
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On August 03 2010 16:51 Nizaris wrote:
They just need to fix guest accounts. that would solve most of the hacking.
Yeah, because there are no cheats in games, that don't offer trial accounts, like WC3 or BW, right?
Let's just face it - Blizzard has some of the most popular games out there, and therefore will always be one of the most attractive targets for crackers who get a thrill out of overcoming security measures.
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On August 03 2010 20:46 NilRecurring wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 16:51 Nizaris wrote:
They just need to fix guest accounts. that would solve most of the hacking. Yeah, because there are no cheats in games, that don't offer trial accounts, like WC3 or BW, right? Let's just face it - Blizzard has some of the most popular games out there, and therefore will always be one of the most attractive targets for crackers who get a thrill out of overcoming security measures.
Yes, but in this case, if they are not using a guest pass, they are risking a $60 account by hacking.
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On August 03 2010 20:56 Artifice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 20:46 NilRecurring wrote:On August 03 2010 16:51 Nizaris wrote:
They just need to fix guest accounts. that would solve most of the hacking. Yeah, because there are no cheats in games, that don't offer trial accounts, like WC3 or BW, right? Let's just face it - Blizzard has some of the most popular games out there, and therefore will always be one of the most attractive targets for crackers who get a thrill out of overcoming security measures. Yes, but in this case, if they are not using a guest pass, they are risking a $60 account by hacking.
exactly right now there is 0 risk involved which is an invitation for all the kids to hack.
On August 03 2010 20:46 NilRecurring wrote:
Yeah, because there are no cheats in games, that don't offer trial accounts, like WC3 or BW, right?
Let's just face it - Blizzard has some of the most popular games out there, and therefore will always be one of the most attractive targets for crackers who get a thrill out of overcoming security measures.
i can't say i've played wc3 recently but does blizzard actively bans cd-keys that hack ? somehow i doubt it.
Sure its an attractive target but if they actively ban cd-keys it won't be much of a problem (if they remove guests from ladder). Most of the hackers won't keep wasting 60 bucks.
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Yeah, Blizzard bans CD keys in waves. A while back Blizzard banned over 300,000 Diablo 2 and War3 CD keys.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137978
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ok you played on battlenet against a guy and he hacked you.
Thanks charlie.
In recent news I can't seem to get the battle net ladder system to work and nobody will play me.. anyone got tips?''
hacking on bnet is so far from new information I almost don't even know how to talk about this with you charlie. And no, that hack has been around
Please just move on. Dozens of moderators have closed your threads with far more snarky things to say.. just move along.
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retard, it is called information for the community.
I rest my fucking case.
Close this stupid worthless fucking thread already.
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While this idiot is running rampant no top diamond player on Europe is playing in the b.net ladder. Blizzard really have to be more proactive about banning these sort of blatant cases.
Everyone on the ladder is just adding this guy to their friend's list and keeping tabs on when he's in a game and when he's not. When he's not, the entirity of the top diamond leagues are in a stand still. He's just sitting there in a match queue for 10-15 minutes blocking the entire ladder.
The time it's taking Blizzard to deal with this is not very reassuring for the future.
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PLEASE OWNAGE KEEP THE HACKS FOR YOURSELF! I will happily get cheated by just you, rather than infinite noob children
Instead of doing what your doing, why don't you Email someone on the Blizzard/bnet2 team and offer your expertise? I'm aware of one guy who was a map maker as a hobby, he is employed by Blizzard now. Why not you too?
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Bumping this because it's a shame that it's gotten so low in the forums, this requires attention until it's fixed.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/169529482
I've made a topic about this very problem at the EU forums, if people could jump in there and write their complaints about this that'd be awesome. Really annoyed by the fact that this guy has been going at it for over 48+ hours with 4 different accounts.
I tried having his accounts added to my friend list and just not play when he wasn't in a game, but as he keeps changing accounts, you eventually run into him 1-3 games again until you can re-add him.
It's basically halting all the top diamond players from laddering since those are the players who are most likely to get him when they're trying to find games. And its really depriving to actually put tons of effort into your ladder games, then get dischacked 3 games in a row because the AMM decided to fix you up with this guy x3.
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Yeah I was defending Blizzard before, but at this point, they REALLY need to get this locked down. However, before they do fix the bug, they won't tell people their progress. It isn't their policy.
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