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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 29 2010 02:05 GMT
#21
On July 29 2010 11:03 Vedreth wrote:
Basically this is paying people to develop the perfect / quickest cheese...


Uhh good luck cheesing and winning 4000 games...
Laggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States385 Posts
July 29 2010 02:06 GMT
#22
There's people in TFT that have like 1000 wins with like 3 losses, that's insane to me. Anyways I want to try and stick with Starcraft 2 and not give up on it. Like when Wc3 came out I would tell myself "Yeah I'm going to stay with this game and get EVERY icon!". Thinking back on it it's kind of funny how fast I dropped ladder games and started playing Winter Maul and other custom maps. But I really hope I can do it with Starcraft, Cause I am kind of good at it, We'll see if I persevere!
D on iccup stands for diamond in SC2
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
July 29 2010 02:07 GMT
#23
no there is no one that have 1000 wins 3 lose in tft unless they use drophack
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
Unfurl
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States272 Posts
July 29 2010 02:08 GMT
#24
Lol, should this be in the tournament section
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
July 29 2010 02:09 GMT
#25
6 months, 4000 wins? I really doubt that is possible.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 29 2010 02:09 GMT
#26
On July 29 2010 11:08 Unfurl wrote:
Lol, should this be in the tournament section

I didn't know where to put it so I put it here lol
Gnarwhal
Profile Joined May 2010
United States33 Posts
July 29 2010 02:09 GMT
#27
On July 29 2010 11:03 Vedreth wrote:
Basically this is paying people to develop the perfect / quickest cheese...

There will never be a "perfect cheese", and if an incredibly good one is created, a defense will be made also. This is why there has never been a "perfect cheese".
Hail the mighty Thoughthammer!
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 02:10:24
July 29 2010 02:10 GMT
#28
On July 29 2010 11:09 OminouS wrote:
6 months, 4000 wins? I really doubt that is possible.

that's ~22 wins / day, it is possible if u grind hardcore :-)

I mean it's flat out free money, it has to be hard haha
-Valor-
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
July 29 2010 02:10 GMT
#29
How about you add a maximum loss category as well?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 29 2010 02:10 GMT
#30
On July 29 2010 11:10 ValorS wrote:
How about you add a maximum loss category as well?

I think the 6 months time frame is already fairly brutal, I'll leave it at that
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 02:21:20
July 29 2010 02:11 GMT
#31
On July 29 2010 11:09 OminouS wrote:
6 months, 4000 wins? I really doubt that is possible.


22 wins a day for EVERY single day, that is remotely possible, but not my cup of tea

EDIT: I would get 3-4 diamond pals and cram on one account, make a team cheese or something. If you play that many games you'll probably get to 50/50, otherwise you'd shoot up to the top of the ladder, which is unlikely. So 6 minutes a game, 50% win ratio, 6*44 = 264 minutes. Thats 4hour, 24 min a day of constant cheesing.

An alternate method would be to just get a bunch of players and play normally, but always have the account being played games on (ladder account). 22 wins a day is not unreasonable like that.

What this really reminds me is Kongregate.com, which is a flash game site which features "achievments for games". Particularly tedious badges get descriptions like this:

This is the Game that Never Ends Badge (hard - 30 points)

Map 78 completed – "Endurance badge" does not even begin to describe this. Go outside. Please. Your family is worried about you.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 02:15:08
July 29 2010 02:12 GMT
#32
The fewest number of games you could play to achieve Solo Zen Master is 3000 games by playing Random and winning every single game.

If you have a 60% win rate, that's 5000 games, or 27.7 games per day.
If you have a 70% win rate, that's 4286 games. or 23.8 games per day.

It's not gonna happen.
Hates Fun🤔
Unfurl
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 02:18:41
July 29 2010 02:13 GMT
#33
Faith, just use that money to sponsor an awesome tournament

that's something thousands of us can enjoy,

the person who earns it just spent more time earning that money than they would at a regular job

and think about all those that spend all their waking moments trying to earn this money, then not getting it

a tournament is something we can all enjoy
Gnarwhal
Profile Joined May 2010
United States33 Posts
July 29 2010 02:14 GMT
#34
On July 29 2010 11:12 paper wrote:
The fewest number of games you could achieve Solo Zen Master is 3000 games by playing Random and winning every single game.

If you have a 60% win rate, that's 5000 games.
If you have a 70% win rate, that's 4286 games.


Are you sure it works that way? I think you have to win all of the games as the race you choose before playing the map. In other words, I don't think random wins count for all 3. Plus you would need an even ratio of all 3 races as random..Highly unlikely .
Hail the mighty Thoughthammer!
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
July 29 2010 02:14 GMT
#35
Well, the best strategy would be to loose all placement matches, and slowly win games while also quitting others from the start of the game so you forever remain low and get easy opponents while calmly taking your wins, cheesing and allinning like a madman.

requires a ton of farm, but its doable to anyone that wants quick money.
"Mudkip"
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 02:16:25
July 29 2010 02:15 GMT
#36
On July 29 2010 11:14 Gnarwhal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 11:12 paper wrote:
The fewest number of games you could achieve Solo Zen Master is 3000 games by playing Random and winning every single game.

If you have a 60% win rate, that's 5000 games.
If you have a 70% win rate, that's 4286 games.


Are you sure it works that way? I think you have to win all of the games as the race you choose before playing the map. In other words, I don't think random wins count for all 3. Plus you would need an even ratio of all 3 races as random..Highly unlikely .


It worked like that in beta IIRC considering I would random 2's and still get t/p/z achievements, i.e. if you random Zerg, you get ticks for both Zerg and Random simultaneously.
Hates Fun🤔
Gnarwhal
Profile Joined May 2010
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 02:17:51
July 29 2010 02:17 GMT
#37
On July 29 2010 11:15 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 11:14 Gnarwhal wrote:
On July 29 2010 11:12 paper wrote:
The fewest number of games you could achieve Solo Zen Master is 3000 games by playing Random and winning every single game.

If you have a 60% win rate, that's 5000 games.
If you have a 70% win rate, that's 4286 games.


Are you sure it works that way? I think you have to win all of the games as the race you choose before playing the map. In other words, I don't think random wins count for all 3. Plus you would need an even ratio of all 3 races as random..Highly unlikely .


It worked like that in beta IIRC considering I would random 2's and still get t/p/z achievements.

Ok my bad XD, I just don't remember that in beta than. Probably cause i got protoss about 80% of the time as random, being a protoss player normaly, so i didn't notice.
Hail the mighty Thoughthammer!
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
July 29 2010 02:17 GMT
#38
On July 29 2010 11:15 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 11:14 Gnarwhal wrote:
On July 29 2010 11:12 paper wrote:
The fewest number of games you could achieve Solo Zen Master is 3000 games by playing Random and winning every single game.

If you have a 60% win rate, that's 5000 games.
If you have a 70% win rate, that's 4286 games.


Are you sure it works that way? I think you have to win all of the games as the race you choose before playing the map. In other words, I don't think random wins count for all 3. Plus you would need an even ratio of all 3 races as random..Highly unlikely .


It worked like that in beta IIRC considering I would random 2's and still get t/p/z achievements, i.e. if you random Zerg, you get ticks for both Zerg and Random simultaneously.


This is correct, random races give you achievements in the random category and the race you randomed's category.
--------------------------> My Smiley Face Disagrees, Your Argument is Invalid -------------------------->
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 29 2010 02:18 GMT
#39
Shared account will win that :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Polarn
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway96 Posts
July 29 2010 02:22 GMT
#40
If I play 4 hours per day, 5 days a week I can realistically do around 2k games in 6 months..
Guess it wont stop me from trying tho..

GL.
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