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GuerrillaRepublik
Profile Joined June 2010
United States34 Posts
July 21 2010 03:03 GMT
#241
On July 20 2010 04:48 Belegorm wrote:
Maybe he'll be Grrr's successor


NO.
dont start none wont be none
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 21 2010 03:05 GMT
#242
HuK get the range upgrade for crying out loud.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
July 21 2010 03:07 GMT
#243
On July 21 2010 12:05 Telcontar wrote:
HuK get the range upgrade for crying out loud.

Maybe hes Kim Taek Yong instead?
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 21 2010 03:09 GMT
#244
On July 21 2010 12:07 Butigroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 12:05 Telcontar wrote:
HuK get the range upgrade for crying out loud.

Maybe hes Kim Taek Yong instead?

You mean Song Byung Goo
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 21 2010 03:25 GMT
#245
Truely a good player, hope that you'll do well in SC2.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
cucumber
Profile Joined June 2010
United States116 Posts
July 21 2010 03:32 GMT
#246
Shoot for the stars and maybe you reach the moon. Competitors always want to be the best. I don't think it's offensive to say you want to be the best.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 21 2010 03:48 GMT
#247
He's already revolutionizing SC2 like the Emperor with his 6 gate -> nexus build
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
July 21 2010 03:52 GMT
#248
On July 21 2010 12:48 floor exercise wrote:
He's already revolutionizing SC2 like the Emperor with his 6 gate -> nexus build


oh, so mean :D
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tipakee
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
July 21 2010 03:57 GMT
#249
On July 21 2010 12:02 setzer wrote:
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On July 21 2010 00:19 HuK wrote:
I almost always keep up to date with most threads on TL.net, and have the whole time since this first came out until now; I debated posting or not but since there has been so many issues I will.

"HuK all-ins 5gate every game"

Not really true, I use to when my computer couldn't handle 100+ supply but now that it doesn't I expand PvZ 90+%, PvT I do whats necessary (can't really FE) but almost always start off 1gate - robo, and PvP I rarely ever do this 4-5 warpgate cheese strategy most people do. I find it funny how many people consider me a "cheesy all-in" player when the truth is I rarely do either. Then again most of you don't even keep up avidly with most happenings in the scene.


SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER DOWN BELOW







+ Show Spoiler +
I love how you write this after going 9gate 2base on BS and 6gate on Steppes of War during Day9's tournament. You are not really fooling many people when you say things like this and then proceed to do all the things people accuse you of. You are a talented player and can be one of the top NA SC2 players but I don't see why you constrain yourself to this style of play instead of improving upon other areas.

+ Show Spoiler +

Huk expanded before he threw down the 9 warpgates on BS, just like he explained in the previous post. I do agree the 6 warpgates on 1 base is not the best strategy. Please dont be quick to judge warpgate pushes they can work in all 3 matchups.


Also Huk keep at it, alot of these other people have had a major headstart on you and that fact that you are now competing with them goes to show the progress you have made thus far. Keep up the good work.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
July 21 2010 03:57 GMT
#250
On July 21 2010 11:46 Artosis wrote:

hard work > talent

haters gonna hate.


actually no, and sc2 will show you that very quickly

but you can keep hating if you'd like

why so 진지해?
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 21 2010 03:59 GMT
#251
So many nobody haters here running their mouthes, trying to downplay other people's dreams to make their lack of accomplishments feel better.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
July 21 2010 04:13 GMT
#252
I think its great HuK is really determined, but the matches tonight showed he will have a lot to work on going into retail. ZvP is extremely hard without successfully 2gating.. and idRa is a one of a kind zerg.

I think if HuK really goes back to his aggressiveness that we use to see a little bit more I think he will get good results. Even though the "all in" players such as dimaga play with very high risk. You see that their win rate is always around 75%... much better than more conservative players.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 21 2010 04:18 GMT
#253
well i guess losing to idra and TLO isnt a great shame and you did make a fight out of it so props to you there. looking forward to your match vs tester.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
July 21 2010 04:26 GMT
#254
On July 21 2010 12:57 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 11:46 Artosis wrote:

hard work > talent

haters gonna hate.


actually no, and sc2 will show you that very quickly

but you can keep hating if you'd like



I dont know which part you are disagreeing with, however, hard work is indeed "greater than" talent especially at high levels where all players are highly talented.

imo

As far as Huk goes as a player, he himself said he struggles staying focused. He played a great game against IdrA, however, IdrA is all focus and hes living in a society of focus. He's commented a couple times on whether or not the korean training style is more effective than others, but he has never downgraded their rigorous training schedules, aka lots of hard work.
t the very least, hard work over came.[/spoiler]
"Do yourself a favor, and don't listen to me."
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:34:20
July 21 2010 04:28 GMT
#255
On July 21 2010 11:46 Artosis wrote:
hard work > talent


Ok there, Rock Lee.
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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
July 21 2010 04:40 GMT
#256
People need to stop hating, said he wants to be hte next Lim Yo Hwan not I will be, it means he has a goal geeze. Why hate on a guy for having dreams.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
July 21 2010 04:40 GMT
#257
On July 21 2010 07:48 nihlon wrote:
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On July 21 2010 07:32 ilbh wrote:
On July 21 2010 01:32 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
I will step in and say that as a tournament organizer HuK is one of the best players to have playing. He never cares whom he is playing, or if he played earlier that day, the only thing that will stop him is having another tournament at the same time.

Although me and him fight about using BW maps in SCII, he's one of the best to work with.

I can't stress that first part enough. Normally when I hit someone up for the ITL its "Oh I don't want to play them", or "Oh, I want a TvZ and nothing else." HuK never once has had these issues.

HuK is a game opponent and still imo the best Protoss in the world (he has never built 2 cyber cores and chrono'd the wrong one). I think it's GREAT he wants to be like his idol. I wanted to be like Boxer when I first picked up SC2 but I realized I sucked. Luckily HuK does not have this problem.



so Tester is not the best player because he built 2 cyber cores and chrono'ed the wrong one?

against TLO, huk couldn't close his ramp access with force field, which is way more critical than making 2 cyb. cores, but that means nothing. everyone commit mistakes.

if you want to point out the best protoss in the world, start summing up acomplishments. what have huk got so far? do you really know about the best asian protoss players? do you know about white-ra or any other protoss that is not from korea?

it is not great that he wants to be the boxer of SC2. if he had like 5 years old, it would be cute, but as a grow up man, having such dreams is just pathetic. you need to be a complete alieneted person to have such uthopic dreams, not a single sense of reality... it also shows that he just don't know nothing about the SC/E-Sports/Boxer history, why Boxer is mentioned like a god the way he is... there is a reason behind that, its not only because he was a good or entertaining player. oh god... i'll stop here.


If you want people to take you seriously you really should start using capital letters (moreover spelling Boxer). And since when is ambition something that is exclusive for 5 year olds?



everyone should have dreams, but boxer is not only a good player or creative player. he is the symbol of a new era in E-Sports, when a simply PC game became what is in korea. its just impossible for someone else to accomplish that, no matter how talented or skilled he is.

if you can't understand the meaning Boxer had to E-Sports you won't understand my point of view.
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NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
July 21 2010 04:40 GMT
#258
On July 21 2010 13:26 konicki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 12:57 Rekrul wrote:
On July 21 2010 11:46 Artosis wrote:

hard work > talent

haters gonna hate.


actually no, and sc2 will show you that very quickly

but you can keep hating if you'd like



I dont know which part you are disagreeing with, however, hard work is indeed "greater than" talent especially at high levels where all players are highly talented.

imo

As far as Huk goes as a player, he himself said he struggles staying focused. He played a great game against IdrA, however, IdrA is all focus and hes living in a society of focus. He's commented a couple times on whether or not the korean training style is more effective than others, but he has never downgraded their rigorous training schedules, aka lots of hard work.
t the very least, hard work over came.
[/spoiler]

While I'd agree with your statement in BW, I don't think this is absotely true for SC2. SC2 is just so much easier, it's so ridicolously easy to become good at it on the mechanics department, where in BW it required tons and tons of never ending practise to get your mechanics solid, especially on pro levels.

While in SC2, the interface makes the mechanics department easier. Now, hard work still of course helps a lot, but I think people will reach the top levels much faster in this game, not only because of the interface, but also because we have BW as a foothold.

I think people will agree that having solid mechanics in SC2 is probably a 1000 times easier then in BW. And what is the strenght of hard work? You get solid mechanics. In BW solid mechanics was probably one of the most important things to have, which is why Koreans practised so much, the same builds over and over. While in SC2 reaching that same level of mechanics wont take nearly as long I'm quite sure. Actually, a few months after release I'm sure the most active players will reach mechanics so high that it can barely go up anymore, and if it can it will be a minimal different so it won't matter, when performing certain builds. SC2 requires like 100 APM to play at high levels, compare that to BW where Terrans and Zergs especially usually went up 250-300 APM and still had stuff they couldn't find a chance to do.

So talented people imo will have an edge, now, if a talented person plays a shit ton, then you have a winning combination. Now what does ''talent'' contain and how does it help can be discussed. Some might say that having good mechanics is being talented, some might say the fact you can read your opponent really well is also talent.

Anyways, just my 2 cents.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 21 2010 04:41 GMT
#259
On July 21 2010 13:26 konicki wrote:

I dont know which part you are disagreeing with, however, hard work is indeed "greater than" talent especially at high levels where all players are highly talented.

imo

Sorry, in general we can say that give or take a few hours a week, they all work "about equally hard." What makes Bisu Bisu, Flash Flash, and Jaedong Jaedong, is superior talent.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:44:26
July 21 2010 04:43 GMT
#260
whats talent in rts?
i believe anyone has the ability to learn in extreme given the right mindset and passion.
if thats talent
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