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On June 17 2010 09:13 kajeus wrote:I'm not sure why InControl and NonY are considered top sc2 players. Could somebody show me some good replays please? Edit: Nothing from the HDH, please. I've seen those. 
This is probably my favourite InControl match, great use of many different protoss units.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SC2GGRise#p/u/8/CqmV0jR08nY
I love the commentary too, really funny stuff.
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On June 17 2010 10:11 Wargizmo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2010 09:13 kajeus wrote:I'm not sure why InControl and NonY are considered top sc2 players. Could somebody show me some good replays please? Edit: Nothing from the HDH, please. I've seen those. This is probably my favourite InControl match, great use of many different protoss units. http://www.youtube.com/user/SC2GGRise#p/u/8/CqmV0jR08nYI love the commentary too, really funny stuff.
Thanks for the link, man.
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On June 17 2010 09:13 kajeus wrote:I'm not sure why InControl and NonY are considered top sc2 players. Could somebody show me some good replays please? Edit: Nothing from the HDH, please. I've seen those.
We all understood that you were a die hard HuK fan, no need to spit in the face of the other great players of the scene.
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Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower.
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HuK CONGRATS, your #1 fan is proud!
P.S. when are we going to make some babies?
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We need a power rank for foreigners 
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"why does blizzard hate Protoss?"
In the end of the beta-king of the kill iccup stream these were the results when I stopped watching:
Protoss: 11 wins
Zerg: 1 win
Terran: 0 wins
Keep in mind that the zerg victory was a ZvZ...
Saying things like this about a race that has been dominating most of the tourneys of the beta will just give other Protoss players a bad rep.
From a spectator point of view, what is worrying, is that the 30APM a1ffff lategame collossi/sentry/stalker blob will demolish any maxed zerg army, even if the Protoss army is handed over to someone that has been learning sc for 1 hour.
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i would like to fix the title to "one of the best" instead of "the top", friendly
no comment on the interview
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Wow really great interview - thnx!!
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On June 17 2010 20:42 NB wrote:i would like to fix the title to "one of the best" instead of "the top", friendly no comment on the interview
skill = accomplishment in my eyes and apart from white-ra hes the only other p that has performed consistently well in every tournament, in any case its good to see so many top p users coming out of canada, should make for some fun lans
now we only need captain testie to come back
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On June 17 2010 20:31 HowardRoark wrote:
"why does blizzard hate Protoss?"
In the end of the beta-king of the kill iccup stream these were the results when I stopped watching:
Protoss: 11 wins
Zerg: 1 win
Terran: 0 wins
Keep in mind that the zerg victory was a ZvZ...
Saying things like this about a race that has been dominating most of the tourneys of the beta will just give other Protoss players a bad rep.
From a spectator point of view, what is worrying, is that the 30APM a1ffff lategame collossi/sentry/stalker blob will demolish any maxed zerg army, even if the Protoss army is handed over to someone that has been learning sc for 1 hour.
Most of our players were Protoss. Don't spew data around without giving all of it.
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On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower.
This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.)
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On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.)
Just because nobody talks about HuK's innovation doesn't mean he isn't innovative. He executes a good number of strategies very well, and plays extremely well. From the way he played and from talking with him on vent, I'd say that although Nony as the name behind him and is a fantastic player, HuK's play (experienced first-hand) has consistently set him apart from the other toss players I've encountered.
Not saying he's 100% #1 for sure, but in the end, it's just a title that doesn't mean that much. I think KiWiKaKi is a good fight, but having not experienced Incontrol's or Inka's play recently, I don't know too much about those two but they definitely present strong PvP's as well.
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On June 18 2010 12:25 Antimage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.) Just because nobody talks about HuK's innovation doesn't mean he isn't innovative. He executes a good number of strategies very well, and plays extremely well. From the way he played and from talking with him on vent, I'd say that although Nony as the name behind him and is a fantastic player, HuK's play (experienced first-hand) has consistently set him apart from the other toss players I've encountered. Not saying he's 100% #1 for sure, but in the end, it's just a title that doesn't mean that much. I think KiWiKaKi is a good fight, but having not experienced Incontrol's or Inka's play recently, I don't know too much about those two but they definitely present strong PvP's as well.
I never suggested HuK wasnt a fantastic player/innovator, In fact in my earlier post I did say he was the top player. I just feel like Nony has the most potential of just about any player in NA. Nothing negative to the other players, they are fantastic players as well.
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On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.)
Nah, the Phoenix thing gets way overhyped. I knew tons of people who were using Phoenixes in what is, honestly, a very obvious way to use them. In fact, I'd been watching a friend use Phoenixes that way for a solid month before NonY got covered by Day[9] and became an "innovator" for it.
I dunno -- NonY was a good BW player and has been a fixture in the community for some time. But he just didn't do anything impressive in the SC2 beta. Is that really so hard to accept?
HuK dominated. He cleaned Antimage's clock. Let's just accept that and golfclap where it's deserved -- rather than where it's not.
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On June 18 2010 12:25 Antimage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.) Just because nobody talks about HuK's innovation doesn't mean he isn't innovative. He executes a good number of strategies very well, and plays extremely well. From the way he played and from talking with him on vent, I'd say that although Nony as the name behind him and is a fantastic player, HuK's play (experienced first-hand) has consistently set him apart from the other toss players I've encountered. Not saying he's 100% #1 for sure, but in the end, it's just a title that doesn't mean that much. I think KiWiKaKi is a good fight, but having not experienced Incontrol's or Inka's play recently, I don't know too much about those two but they definitely present strong PvP's as well.
You're not too bad yourself :D.
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On June 18 2010 14:04 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.) Nah, the Phoenix thing gets way overhyped. I knew tons of people who were using Phoenixes in what is, honestly, a very obvious way to use them. In fact, I'd been watching a friend use Phoenixes that way for a solid month before NonY got covered by Day[9] and became an "innovator" for it. I dunno -- NonY was a good BW player and has been a fixture in the community for some time. But he just didn't do anything impressive in the SC2 beta. Is that really so hard to accept? HuK dominated. He cleaned Antimage's clock. Let's just accept that and golfclap where it's deserved -- rather than where it's not.
Nony did pretty well in the HDH to beat TLO in a best of 7 and claim third.
While not in NA, White-Ra is currently the boss of toss and makes this little argument about HuK and Nony kind of pointless from a bigger perspective imo.
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On June 18 2010 14:16 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 14:04 kajeus wrote:On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.) Nah, the Phoenix thing gets way overhyped. I knew tons of people who were using Phoenixes in what is, honestly, a very obvious way to use them. In fact, I'd been watching a friend use Phoenixes that way for a solid month before NonY got covered by Day[9] and became an "innovator" for it. I dunno -- NonY was a good BW player and has been a fixture in the community for some time. But he just didn't do anything impressive in the SC2 beta. Is that really so hard to accept? HuK dominated. He cleaned Antimage's clock. Let's just accept that and golfclap where it's deserved -- rather than where it's not. Nony did pretty well in the HDH to beat TLO in a best of 7 and claim third. While not in NA, White-Ra is currently the boss of toss and makes this little argument about HuK and Nony kind of pointless from a bigger perspective imo.
Agreed. White-Ra is definitely the best.
TLO... is a mystery. TLO is awesome. Is TLO good? Dunno bout that.
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On June 18 2010 14:18 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 14:16 Rarak wrote:On June 18 2010 14:04 kajeus wrote:On June 18 2010 12:15 Darpa wrote:On June 17 2010 13:09 notuswind wrote:
Personally, I think that NonY is on a trajectory of being the best NA Protoss long-term. His heady approach to Starcraft and deep understanding of the game will enable him to pull away from other players like Huk (who are also very good) as the SC2 metagame continues to develop.
All the higher-level players have solid mechanics (from my nooby point of view), what really separates NonY from the rest is brainpower. This is pretty much how I feel, he is the one who is always coming up with strange builds and diff strats (who woulda thunk Pheonixs were useful when everyone was whining that they were pointless.) Nah, the Phoenix thing gets way overhyped. I knew tons of people who were using Phoenixes in what is, honestly, a very obvious way to use them. In fact, I'd been watching a friend use Phoenixes that way for a solid month before NonY got covered by Day[9] and became an "innovator" for it. I dunno -- NonY was a good BW player and has been a fixture in the community for some time. But he just didn't do anything impressive in the SC2 beta. Is that really so hard to accept? HuK dominated. He cleaned Antimage's clock. Let's just accept that and golfclap where it's deserved -- rather than where it's not. Nony did pretty well in the HDH to beat TLO in a best of 7 and claim third. While not in NA, White-Ra is currently the boss of toss and makes this little argument about HuK and Nony kind of pointless from a bigger perspective imo. Agreed. White-Ra is definitely the best. TLO... is a mystery. TLO is awesome. Is TLO good? Dunno bout that.
TLO has had a little bit of trouble finishing high level opponents in tournaments but they have generally been in the final and have been against really tough opposition (e.g. Sen and White-Ra). We also saw TLO thrash freedom and beat pretty much everyone near the end of the beta.
Also as you say, he's awesome to watch which has to count for something.
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