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On June 03 2010 12:07 baconbits wrote:
yeah only thing that makes it questionable is phase 2 beta may not be up, and there would be no way to host games (legally or legitimately, atleast) as phase 1 comes down on the 7th and there is no date yet for phase 2
The event is being run by blizzard is it not? Pretty sure they have the power to play their own game.
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On June 03 2010 12:00 tyCe wrote:
Some guy on gg.net said it will be Boxer v NaDa, as accidentally announced on GomTV. (This is just speculation so far)
oh that would be nice..
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On June 03 2010 12:01 Terranist wrote:
i dont know how they plan on doing this if bnet is down but if you're trolling i will find you and do some terrible terrible damage.
Read the sources?
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On June 03 2010 13:23 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2010 13:18 Tump wrote:
Pro gamer license allows you to play any game afaik, as long as you can succeed. This means that current SC1 progamers are already licensed to be SC2 progamers. Actually a lot of players had to get rid of their license when they started SC2, one of these is Tester according to Artosis..
what would tester gain from getting rid of his license?
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Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task.
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On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task.
I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not.
Anyway, on topic, if Blizzard really got Boxer and Nada to showmatch on SC2, then I think they really know how to switch korea on to SC2. Another blow to Kespa (unless of course Kespa is in on it).
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On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not.
I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal.
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On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal.
I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal.
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On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal.
At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court.
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On June 22 2010 06:48 Nyx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court.
I'm pretty sure that was actually a server emulator as opposed to LAN play, but in any case, you realize a lawsuit can be made on things that aren't really illegal. Also, as you said it didn't go to court so how can you say its determined to be illegal?
For example in the past people have made lawsuits for mcdonalds coffee being too hot. Mcdonalds isnt breaking any actual laws but you can still sue them for things like that.
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On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal.
I'm 100% positive that if you hack someone else's' property it's illegal
Hope someone hacks LAN regardless, also, I'm guessing it will be 2 old timers, most likely Boxer+Yellow or Boxer+Nada as mentioned before, Boxer switched over to Sc2.
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On June 22 2010 06:50 Disastorm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:48 Nyx wrote:On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court. I'm pretty sure that was actually a server emulator as opposed to LAN play, but in any case, you realize a lawsuit can be made on things that aren't really illegal. Also, as you said it didn't go to court so how can you say its determined to be illegal? For example in the past people have made lawsuits for mcdonalds coffee being too hot. Mcdonalds isnt breaking any actual laws but you can still sue them for things like that.
Yeah my bad it was a server emulator, I never said it was illegal, but I don't think the circumvention of payment (for the game) that the emulator provided would be considered legal.
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On June 22 2010 06:48 Nyx wrote:
At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court.
now heres a question, if some genius figures out how to do this without cracking the game or modding it, but instead using the map editor and blizzard sanctioned tools, would it then still be illegal?
Like say a custom map that has the power to include irc chat, and the ability to change maps etc...
also on note with the show match, has any official information been given to the public, as this is getting kinda close to when its supposed to happen. as its kinda hard to get spectators and stuff for a show match if no one knows its happening....
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On June 22 2010 06:53 Nyx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:50 Disastorm wrote:On June 22 2010 06:48 Nyx wrote:On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court. I'm pretty sure that was actually a server emulator as opposed to LAN play, but in any case, you realize a lawsuit can be made on things that aren't really illegal. Also, as you said it didn't go to court so how can you say its determined to be illegal? For example in the past people have made lawsuits for mcdonalds coffee being too hot. Mcdonalds isnt breaking any actual laws but you can still sue them for things like that. Yeah my bad it was a server emulator, I never said it was illegal, but I don't think the circumvention of payment (for the game) that the emulator provided would be considered legal.
Emulator doesn't really circumvent payment though. Its game cracks or warez uploads that does that. I find it hard to believe that emulators themselves are illegal or there wouldn't be the millions of emulator servers for WoW, Lineage2, and all the other games all over the place.
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On June 22 2010 06:50 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. I'm 100% positive that if you hack someone else's' property it's illegal Hope someone hacks LAN regardless, also, I'm guessing it will be 2 old timers, most likely Boxer+Yellow or Boxer+Nada as mentioned before, Boxer switched over to Sc2.
Sorry, it will not be any of them. All of those progamers are already contracted by their progaming teams. They all appear on the bench when their teams are playing in proleague, and they all participate in SC individual leagues.
But the main reason why this will not happen is that Blizzard/Gretech have no agreement with KESPA. Why would these players, who play under the teams that make up KeSPA, showcase a game they have nothing to do with? Furthermore, why would KeSPA even allow their progamers to do this?
Sorry, it it just not happening.
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On June 22 2010 07:00 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 06:50 NuKedUFirst wrote:On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote:On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote:On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote:On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote:
Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. I'm 100% positive that if you hack someone else's' property it's illegal Hope someone hacks LAN regardless, also, I'm guessing it will be 2 old timers, most likely Boxer+Yellow or Boxer+Nada as mentioned before, Boxer switched over to Sc2. Sorry, it will not be any of them. All of those progamers are already contracted by their progaming teams. They all appear on the bench when their teams are playing in proleague, and they all participate in SC individual leagues. But the main reason why this will not happen is that Blizzard/Gretech have no agreement with KESPA. Why would these players, who play under the teams that make up KeSPA, showcase a game they have nothing to do with? Furthermore, why would KeSPA even allow their progamers to do this? Sorry, it it just not happening.
Yea probably not but it would be pretty awesome if it did happen and they announce a surprise that KESPA finally came to an agreement.
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I think that you guys are taking this information only half way... This means, if true, that the Koreans know something we dont know - Beta is coming back up on the 24th! maybe the Asia server but still..
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On June 22 2010 07:14 brandonc wrote:
I think that you guys are taking this information only half way... This means, if true, that the Koreans know something we dont know - Beta is coming back up on the 24th! maybe the Asia server but still..
It might not, they could just use their special LAN of Starcraft 2. Hope the beta comes back the 24th though.
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On June 22 2010 07:14 brandonc wrote:
I think that you guys are taking this information only half way... This means, if true, that the Koreans know something we dont know - Beta is coming back up on the 24th! maybe the Asia server but still..
no it doesnt, blizzard is running the event do you really think they can't play thier own game without battlenet?
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