EPTSome guy on gg.net said it will be Boxer v NaDa, as accidentally announced on GomTV. (This is just speculation so far)
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
Some guy on gg.net said it will be Boxer v NaDa, as accidentally announced on GomTV. (This is just speculation so far) Sources: gosugamers PlayXP | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
make it happen!!! | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:01 Terranist wrote: i dont know how they plan on doing this if bnet is down but if you're trolling i will find you and do some terrible terrible damage. Why would I just be trolling if I posted links? -_- | ||
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BamBam
745 Posts
That said, A few show matches against old pros would be AWESOME to see ^^, or... On June 03 2010 12:03 chesshaha wrote: Flash vs Jaedong for the main event! make it happen!!! THISSSS!!!! | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
Both are macro games, but I feel Brood War is really about macro especially in PvT. | ||
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baconbits
United States419 Posts
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:07 baconbits wrote: yeah only thing that makes it questionable is phase 2 beta may not be up, and there would be no way to host games (legally or legitimately, atleast) as phase 1 comes down on the 7th and there is no date yet for phase 2 Maybe Blizzard is allowing a special event like this to happen? I have no idea. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3099 Posts
But, yeah, it would be awesome to see some old school BW players.  | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:06 Kyo Yuy wrote: As much as I love playing Starcraft II, I must say I find Brood War to be more entertaining to watch and more macro intensive. Both are macro games, but I feel Brood War is really about macro especially in PvT. The games in the 17173, Kaspersky Cup, 178 series and the Star2gether competitions were really entertaining. So far, only the very elite players have the understanding, gamesense, and pure skill to show really entertaining play. I find the play on the NA server to be comparatively dull so far. | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:03 chesshaha wrote: Flash vs Jaedong for the main event! make it happen!!! i would love to see that! | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:54 setzer wrote: These players are contracted to play SC1 not SC2, but correct me if I am wrong. Regardless, players like Flash and Jaedong are playing individual leagues and PL. It is highly unlikely they are playing SC2. I'm sure they must have at least given it a try once or twice in spare time. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:03 chesshaha wrote: Flash vs Jaedong for the main event! make it happen!!! rofl if all of the pro teams played (Let alone jaedong vs flash) sc2 on that day I think my head would just about explode  . | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:18 Tump wrote: Pro gamer license allows you to play any game afaik, as long as you can succeed. This means that current SC1 progamers are already licensed to be SC2 progamers. Actually a lot of players had to get rid of their license when they started SC2, one of these is Tester according to Artosis. Besides that there's currently no official "licensing" to become a SC2 progamer as KeSPA doesn't have the same kind of power, the licenses after all were given out by kespa. Now GomTV/Blizzard might introduce a new system but I'm pretty sure we'll get rid of the old licenses in SC2. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:18 Tump wrote: Pro gamer license allows you to play any game afaik, as long as you can succeed. This means that current SC1 progamers are already licensed to be SC2 progamers. I was more talking about the contracts the progamers sign with each team they play for. Although this may not be the case since Idra is signed with CJ but plays SC2. | ||
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Eeeegor
Australia809 Posts
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:07 baconbits wrote: yeah only thing that makes it questionable is phase 2 beta may not be up, and there would be no way to host games (legally or legitimately, atleast) as phase 1 comes down on the 7th and there is no date yet for phase 2 The event is being run by blizzard is it not? Pretty sure they have the power to play their own game. | ||
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radim
Czech Republic122 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:00 tyCe wrote: Some guy on gg.net said it will be Boxer v NaDa, as accidentally announced on GomTV. (This is just speculation so far) oh that would be nice.. | ||
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cocosoft
Sweden1068 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:01 Terranist wrote: i dont know how they plan on doing this if bnet is down but if you're trolling i will find you and do some terrible terrible damage. Read the sources? | ||
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Mojawi)SoJu
Korea (South)259 Posts
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DeLoAdEr
Japan527 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:23 Puosu wrote: Actually a lot of players had to get rid of their license when they started SC2, one of these is Tester according to Artosis.. what would tester gain from getting rid of his license? | ||
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Deviation
United States134 Posts
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 13 2010 22:36 Deviation wrote: Would it be illegal if someone created third-party LAN support? I'm sure there are a lot of Korean programmers up to the task. I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. Anyway, on topic, if Blizzard really got Boxer and Nada to showmatch on SC2, then I think they really know how to switch korea on to SC2. Another blow to Kespa (unless of course Kespa is in on it). | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:39 Disastorm wrote: I think things like that have always been controversial, I think its never really been determined 100% if things like that are illegal or not. I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:41 Bosu wrote: I am pretty sure it has been determined 100% that they are illegal. I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote: I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court. | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:48 Nyx wrote: At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court. I'm pretty sure that was actually a server emulator as opposed to LAN play, but in any case, you realize a lawsuit can be made on things that aren't really illegal. Also, as you said it didn't go to court so how can you say its determined to be illegal? For example in the past people have made lawsuits for mcdonalds coffee being too hot. Mcdonalds isnt breaking any actual laws but you can still sue them for things like that. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:43 Disastorm wrote: I'm not sure, is it really illegal to patch games that you have bought? What about people that mod games (without using official modding software)? What about people hacking in online games? Is that really illegal or is it just against the EULA/rules ? I think its more likely just against the EULA as opposed to actually being illegal. I'm 100% positive that if you hack someone else's' property it's illegal Hope someone hacks LAN regardless, also, I'm guessing it will be 2 old timers, most likely Boxer+Yellow or Boxer+Nada as mentioned before, Boxer switched over to Sc2. | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:50 Disastorm wrote: I'm pretty sure that was actually a server emulator as opposed to LAN play, but in any case, you realize a lawsuit can be made on things that aren't really illegal. Also, as you said it didn't go to court so how can you say its determined to be illegal? For example in the past people have made lawsuits for mcdonalds coffee being too hot. Mcdonalds isnt breaking any actual laws but you can still sue them for things like that. Yeah my bad it was a server emulator, I never said it was illegal, but I don't think the circumvention of payment (for the game) that the emulator provided would be considered legal. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:48 Nyx wrote: At attempt was made at a LAN emulator in the early weeks of the beta, they got quite far, but were given cease and desist orders from Blizzards lawyers. Blizzard made a deal with them and it didn't go to court. now heres a question, if some genius figures out how to do this without cracking the game or modding it, but instead using the map editor and blizzard sanctioned tools, would it then still be illegal? Like say a custom map that has the power to include irc chat, and the ability to change maps etc... also on note with the show match, has any official information been given to the public, as this is getting kinda close to when its supposed to happen. as its kinda hard to get spectators and stuff for a show match if no one knows its happening.... | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:53 Nyx wrote: Yeah my bad it was a server emulator, I never said it was illegal, but I don't think the circumvention of payment (for the game) that the emulator provided would be considered legal. Emulator doesn't really circumvent payment though. Its game cracks or warez uploads that does that. I find it hard to believe that emulators themselves are illegal or there wouldn't be the millions of emulator servers for WoW, Lineage2, and all the other games all over the place. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On June 22 2010 06:50 NuKedUFirst wrote: I'm 100% positive that if you hack someone else's' property it's illegal Hope someone hacks LAN regardless, also, I'm guessing it will be 2 old timers, most likely Boxer+Yellow or Boxer+Nada as mentioned before, Boxer switched over to Sc2. Sorry, it will not be any of them. All of those progamers are already contracted by their progaming teams. They all appear on the bench when their teams are playing in proleague, and they all participate in SC individual leagues. But the main reason why this will not happen is that Blizzard/Gretech have no agreement with KESPA. Why would these players, who play under the teams that make up KeSPA, showcase a game they have nothing to do with? Furthermore, why would KeSPA even allow their progamers to do this? Sorry, it it just not happening. | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 22 2010 07:00 setzer wrote: Sorry, it will not be any of them. All of those progamers are already contracted by their progaming teams. They all appear on the bench when their teams are playing in proleague, and they all participate in SC individual leagues. But the main reason why this will not happen is that Blizzard/Gretech have no agreement with KESPA. Why would these players, who play under the teams that make up KeSPA, showcase a game they have nothing to do with? Furthermore, why would KeSPA even allow their progamers to do this? Sorry, it it just not happening. Yea probably not but it would be pretty awesome if it did happen and they announce a surprise that KESPA finally came to an agreement. | ||
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brandonc
United States72 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 22 2010 07:14 brandonc wrote: I think that you guys are taking this information only half way... This means, if true, that the Koreans know something we dont know - Beta is coming back up on the 24th! maybe the Asia server but still.. It might not, they could just use their special LAN of Starcraft 2. Hope the beta comes back the 24th though. | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On June 22 2010 07:14 brandonc wrote: I think that you guys are taking this information only half way... This means, if true, that the Koreans know something we dont know - Beta is coming back up on the 24th! maybe the Asia server but still.. no it doesnt, blizzard is running the event do you really think they can't play thier own game without battlenet? | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
The event will take place in a hangar of Korean Air, as it was previously used by Blizzard in past events. And it's blizzard who announced the event and sent all the info to it's other partners and not Korean air. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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ckw
United States1018 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
This seems like BS to me. I doubt that "professional edition" LAN thing has been released yet. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 22 2010 10:55 Subversion wrote: How the hell would they play SC2 anyway? Beta will still be down. This seems like BS to me. I doubt that "professional edition" LAN thing has been released yet. ...You don't think that the LAN edition has been released..?..wow, You do realize at blizzcon they were using LAN and recently has been in the talk for the OSL2.. I don't understand how it seems BS. | ||
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TenSafeFrogs
United States54 Posts
On June 22 2010 10:57 NuKedUFirst wrote: ...You don't think that the LAN edition has been released..?..wow, You do realize at blizzcon they were using LAN and recently has been in the talk for the OSL2.. I don't understand how it seems BS. sounds like BS because [citation needed] | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 22 2010 10:11 krndandaman wrote: Too much false information in this thread. Current sc1 progamers will NOT be playing sc2 at this event geez lol. I'm sure they are going to promote a game that's threatening the end of their own game. Boxer switching to sc2? I'm sure lmao[/sarcasm]. BW is Boxer's baby which he raised from the very beginning. He's not going to switch that easily. (if ever) Actually in artosis interview with boxer when he went to the skt house and asked about Starcraft 2, boxer said that he would play any game that gets a big competitive community, because as a pro gamer he felt that it is neccessary to play any or all games as opposed to just one game (brood war). | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
Blizzard made the game, they can play it whenever they want where ever they want. | ||
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Arcticc
United States203 Posts
Some progamers may want to jump ship as an attempt at early adopting of the next big thing in competitive gaming. It's fairly certain that Blizzard is pushing for a strong e-sport scene revolved around starcraft 2. And if you can look past your biased view of sc1 progaming, you'd realize there have already been successful, paying tournaments/showmatches with legitimate sponsors in the first phase of BETA. That's just unheard of for the most part. | ||
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Polar_Nada
United States1548 Posts
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Guilloteen
United States128 Posts
On June 22 2010 10:11 krndandaman wrote: Too much false information in this thread. Current sc1 progamers will NOT be playing sc2 at this event geez lol. I'm sure they are going to promote a game that's threatening the end of their own game. Boxer switching to sc2? I'm sure lmao[/sarcasm]. BW is Boxer's baby which he raised from the very beginning. He's not going to switch that easily. (if ever) you're not korean, are you? cus most koreans know that in a past interview boxer clearly stated that when 2 was to be released, he would switch to it.... and he's already made a few appearances in the new battlenet 2.0....this is based solely on replays of a really good player with his name (lim yo hwan)...obviously it could be someone else though... but don't assume people won't switch over | ||
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Chupacabra(UCSD)
Mexico225 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:06 Energizer wrote: the korean teams will have to adopt sc2 as their main game, its where all the cash is going to, and its a game that sponsors feel more comfortable advertising in because its a new game with new graphics and a lot of (soon) sales. That said, A few show matches against old pros would be AWESOME to see ^^, or... THISSSS!!!! Nah, I'd be more interested to see Boxer vs Yellow. Or Nal_rA vs Nada. I would jizz in my pants. Also, please clarify how they will be playing the games. LAN enabled? :o :o :o | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On June 22 2010 15:41 Kiburn wrote: you're not korean, are you? cus most koreans know that in a past interview boxer clearly stated that when 2 was to be released, he would switch to it.... and he's already made a few appearances in the new battlenet 2.0....this is based solely on replays of a really good player with his name (lim yo hwan)...obviously it could be someone else though... but don't assume people won't switch over Link or your a liar. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Turbo.Tactics
Germany675 Posts
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
If you want to stay in the scene you better adopt SC2 or you wont have a future. Simple as this. | ||
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USn
United States376 Posts
On June 22 2010 10:11 krndandaman wrote: Too much false information in this thread. Current sc1 progamers will NOT be playing sc2 at this event geez lol. I'm sure they are going to promote a game that's threatening the end of their own game. Boxer switching to sc2? I'm sure lmao[/sarcasm]. BW is Boxer's baby which he raised from the very beginning. He's not going to switch that easily. (if ever) Uh, source? | ||
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nujgnoy
United States204 Posts
He's not a liar, you're being ignorant and overly defensive and aggressive. Boxer clearly stated that, roughtly translated to English and (off the top of my memory so not 100% accurate but the main point is there), I am willing to switch over to any game that will be the mainstream game, and if that happens to be SC2, I am willing to play it. This is from a video on scforall.com in which Artosis interviewed him iirc | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
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Puosu
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On June 22 2010 10:11 krndandaman wrote: Too much false information in this thread. Current sc1 progamers will NOT be playing sc2 at this event geez lol. I'm sure they are going to promote a game that's threatening the end of their own game. Boxer switching to sc2? I'm sure lmao[/sarcasm]. BW is Boxer's baby which he raised from the very beginning. He's not going to switch that easily. (if ever) You have no idea what you're talking about. Fyi. any progamer who wants to stay pro will have to consider switching and probably will have to do a complete switch in the next year if he wants to make any money whatsoever. What does playing in a special event have to do with it anyway? Progamers have already played the game when Blizzard went there and had that one special event before the beta where they introduced the game to the progamers. There's video footage of it if you dig around. NaDa has already stated in an interview that he doesn't consider BW fun at all anymore, this same probably goes for most of the progamers. Even IdrA has said that he feels like SC2 is better because its new. 12h a day makes any game feel dull after multiple years. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On June 22 2010 15:30 Arcticc wrote: I know sc1 fanboys may whimper when I suggest the following: Some progamers may want to jump ship as an attempt at early adopting of the next big thing in competitive gaming. It's fairly certain that Blizzard is pushing for a strong e-sport scene revolved around starcraft 2. And if you can look past your biased view of sc1 progaming, you'd realize there have already been successful, paying tournaments/showmatches with legitimate sponsors in the first phase of BETA. That's just unheard of for the most part. You are trying comparing a starved foreigner scene that was clearly going to adopt SC2 even before the beta to a vibrant BW scene that has large corporations contracting players to run in seasonal- and league-wide tournaments. You cannot make that connection. No one knows for certain how SC2 will do in Korean because of the Blizzard/KeSPA fiasco. KeSPA is not just SC but EVERY e-sport in Korea. He's not a liar, you're being ignorant and overly defensive and aggressive. Boxer clearly stated that, roughtly translated to English and (off the top of my memory so not 100% accurate but the main point is there), I am willing to switch over to any game that will be the mainstream game, and if that happens to be SC2, I am willing to play it. This is from a video on scforall.com in which Artosis interviewed him iirc No one is saying boxer will not switch to SC2 down the road. It is just highly unlikely (read: 99%) that you will see him at this "event" on the 24th. This false information was posted in an errant comment with no substantial information to back it up. Fyi. any progamer who wants to stay pro will have to consider switching and probably will have to do a complete switch in the next year if he wants to make any money whatsoever. What does playing in a special event have to do with it anyway? Progamers have already played the game when Blizzard went there and had that one special event before the beta where they introduced the game to the progamers. There's video footage of it if you dig around. NaDa has already stated in an interview that he doesn't consider BW fun at all anymore, this same probably goes for most of the progamers. Even IdrA has said that he feels like SC2 is better because its new. 12h a day makes any game feel dull after multiple years. As long as the progaming teams exist and the leagues still run with sponsors, these progamers do not have to switch. Is Blizzard going to pay these people to switch over? Right now BW is still larger, especially for the progamers. And unless SC1 completely shuts down, you probably will not see the top level progamers for quite a long time. | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
On June 22 2010 15:46 Chupacabra(UCSD) wrote: On my B-Day YAY =D Yours too......? + Show Spoiler + I used to go to UCSD...lol COINCIDENCES EVERYWHERE. Anybody know if they will be broadcasting this anywhere/stream? If so would it be possible to add it to the TL.net calendar...? I'm really curious and I'm sure the forum will catch what it is eventually, but this would be a cool idea, I think! | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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SneakPeek
Philippines162 Posts
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
On June 22 2010 22:26 SneakPeek wrote: but isnt  BoxeR playing SC2 already? sorry noob here but i DLed a replay pack before linked here in TL and one of the players playing random was named SlayersBoxer. PGR21 is the name of the folder.  Haha sorry i forgot the DL Link and the name of the contestThat was  RainBOw ^^ | ||
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Arcticc
United States203 Posts
On June 22 2010 18:29 setzer wrote: You are trying comparing a starved foreigner scene that was clearly going to adopt SC2 even before the beta to a vibrant BW scene that has large corporations contracting players to run in seasonal- and league-wide tournaments. You cannot make that connection. No one knows for certain how SC2 will do in Korean because of the Blizzard/KeSPA fiasco. KeSPA is not just SC but EVERY e-sport in Korea. I guess I didn't quite phrase what I intended to say very well. On a very, admittedly, unfair comparative scale, Starcraft 2 has a far more successful beta stage as a competitive game than Starcraft 1. And I'm sure there is that small chance Starcraft 2 flops in Korea, but year by year Starcraft 1 will become more and more dated and will eventually flicker out. Making this transition only makes sense to keep that scene alive. Yeh, maybe there are some problems with Kespa and Starcraft 2 righ tnow, but it's not the first time in the history of corporations that some other company picked up the slack. I'd like to also make a point on the business end of things. If you were a very large company about to release a game you want and expected to have a large competitive scene attached to, what would you do? Paying some SC1 pros to play your game at an event pre-release doesn't seem like a terrible idea. Maybe it's encouraging the programers that there will be money in this as well. | ||
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Inkarnate
Canada840 Posts
He can be first player on Air Force SC2 team! | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
edit: Not looking for confirmation of the event itself is a rumor, but rather the event details. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
On June 23 2010 00:19 NB wrote: dun know about Flash vs Jeadong, even though its epic, non of their games are as good as the Stork vs Jeadong series during the wcg.... Stork is the true hero of epicness Is this it? | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:04 tyCe wrote: Why would I just be trolling if I posted links? -_- ooooh, BURN BABY, and im all out of bubble gum. Can't wait to see this. | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
On June 23 2010 00:12 SiNiquity wrote: Maybe I missed it, but has there been any confirmation as to the actual contents of the event, or is it still just pure speculation/rumors? edit: Not looking for confirmation of the event itself is a rumor, but rather the event details. We don't have that much informations about the event except that it is held by blizzard in association with Korean air and that there will be some big announcement. That's all we know for sure, the ''ex sc1 pro players'' thing is a rumor, as we don't know what will happen during the event and what the surprise will be. It can be just a stupid promotional event to celebrate the upcoming release like it can be some cool show match, sc2 pro league or tournament announcement, the return of phase 2, or what ever, just wait and see. I hope it's the Boxer vs Nada show match that people said leaked from GomTV but since it's a rumor, nothing is sure. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
They call it Starcraft II Media day where they will disclose many informations about stacraft II and stuff and US + Korean blizzard staff will be present + the press. There is also some contest related to it also. Here is a blue post related to the event + the official korean announcement with the banner: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=1974831&page=2 http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25482228833&sid=3005 Hope we can get some more info or a stream/vods of the event from someone having access to Korean TV. | ||
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
On June 22 2010 18:25 Puosu wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about. Fyi. any progamer who wants to stay pro will have to consider switching and probably will have to do a complete switch in the next year if he wants to make any money whatsoever. What does playing in a special event have to do with it anyway? Progamers have already played the game when Blizzard went there and had that one special event before the beta where they introduced the game to the progamers. There's video footage of it if you dig around. NaDa has already stated in an interview that he doesn't consider BW fun at all anymore, this same probably goes for most of the progamers. Even IdrA has said that he feels like SC2 is better because its new. 12h a day makes any game feel dull after multiple years. understatement much? EXTREME understatement ? Im sorry but even 3 hours a day after multiple years will make any game feel dull. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Boxer...maybe... Nada is still semi-active in PL. Not possible. | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On June 23 2010 15:36 virgozero wrote: understatement much? EXTREME understatement ? Im sorry but even 3 hours a day after multiple years will make any game feel dull. I'm definitely not bored of BW and I average probably just about 3h a day in the last 4~ years. Although I guess I'd be bored of any other game at this point. | ||
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Sejong
Korea (South)153 Posts
So, in a few hours? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
Day9 Runs at 11 KST ^^: | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On June 24 2010 05:41 Sejong wrote: So, 11:00 KST, that means, like, 6pm tonight PST? 9pm eastern? So, in a few hours? 5 hours from now, 10 pm ET | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Any idea if there will be streams of whatever it is that they are doing? hell, even the phase 2 server launch would be nice. | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
On June 24 2010 05 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 24 2010 05 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:46 floor exercise wrote: 5 hours from now, 10 pm ET Nice. I will check the news once I wake up | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On June 24 2010 05:47 NuKedUFirst wrote: Any idea if there will be streams of whatever it is that they are doing? hell, even the phase 2 server launch would be nice. Yeah need info asap so I can decide if I need to go sleep asap. and wake up in 5hours shown on ogn/mbc? | ||
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PsykoMantis
United States203 Posts
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kane]deth[
Canada368 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Merikh
United States918 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
There is a certain exclusivity around this event since it's also closed to the public and under invites only, so the access will probably be restricted to the members of the press and blizzard executives + their partners only. I'm not even sure if it will be broadcasted on TV but what's the use of holding a press related event if it can't be broadcasted. Maybe someone living in korea can give us some insight here. | ||
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Soreas
France17 Posts
go here! http://www.playxp.com/sc2/livecast.php you need a traductor, use google chrome for example. A corean is going to the event and he tells us what happen with pictures and writing. | ||
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Anfere
Canada231 Posts
Still hoping for some ''exclusive'' news and nothing obvious to come out of this event. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
Another nice thing would be some more info on the SP campaign or any news on bnet 2.0. It will suck if its just a small announcement that was hyped up for no reason :p. | ||
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SeR3NiTy
France206 Posts
hope it's OS2L too and a big showmatch. Would be some awesome to see Boxer or some other legend play SC2. I don't think Blizzard made all this just for a small annoucement, it must be pretty big IMO. | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
a live-blog of the event | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
would be great if we could read korean | ||
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Brazil136 Posts
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Nyx
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Google translate is your friend | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
i did give it a try its. eh not able to see anything when i translate | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
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gauauu
United States47 Posts
(That's what appears to be on the menu for the event). Not having any luck with google translate, but chrome seems to do the trick (although the translations are terrible, as usual..... | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
Wat. | ||
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United States1549 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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United States5797 Posts
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
society sees women as a gentle downpour, her English pronunciation four 2 ~ :| :| :| | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
OK I hope theres more | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
Korean Air plane... | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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rhap
Brazil136 Posts
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
edit: and yes, that is incredibly awesome looking | ||
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Crixus
Canada110 Posts
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BluFenix
United States32 Posts
Edit: Messing with 'em. Plane looks cool, but I was expecting an annoucement about LANS, etc. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
"Tea production has come to the city's director, Chris. Chris sigati answered "no. Hi. Ha. 3. John" | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
So, July 10thish? | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
edit: ninja'd | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
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Korea (South)153 Posts
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kane]deth[
Canada368 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:31 Tanatos wrote: So its open beat i guess In korea and taiwan, I think they already had that in pc bangs. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
WTF | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
"July 27 is a public beta test begins with the launch." What? I thought July 27th is retail.. | ||
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Sejong
Korea (South)153 Posts
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
July 27 is a public beta test begins with the launch. So, it starts on the 13th? | ||
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Korea (South)153 Posts
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United States3111 Posts
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United States1549 Posts
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United States1177 Posts
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
are they gonna sell something like Hydra steak house burger?? | ||
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United States6 Posts
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Rwanda460 Posts
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
there are two of those wrapping plane, one for domestic and one for international marketing with Lotteria (fast food restraunt) gonna sell Starcraft 2 meal lol marketing with Nvidia different price package; 30days for 9900 won unlimited 69000 won | ||
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United States10671 Posts
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:45 Tanatos wrote: Ok now for recent Bnet update This better be good!! | ||
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United States1903 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
exciting?.. | ||
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Sejong
Korea (South)153 Posts
it sounds like in korea and taiwan, if you dont want to buy it, you can just beta test it for some extended period for free. now they are announcing payment plans. It sounds like you can play it unlimited for 69,000 won (~$69). Or, $10 per month Or, you can get service for a day at a time (eg for holidays) for $2 per day | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
easy file saving composite login useful community, news about profile | ||
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United States381 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:28 BluFenix wrote: It's a plane? How is that gonna implement chat rooms? Carrier pigeons with Fed-Ex? You can talk to the person in the seat next to you. Do you really want to talk to the guy across the aisle? | ||
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Chocola
United States6 Posts
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mrlie3
Canada350 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
But seriously, Blizzard is trying every marketing attempt possible "mummy, can we fly on the starcraft plane?" "-its 60$ more sweety, but if it makes u happy" "yesh mommy" | ||
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Wedge
Canada580 Posts
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
Damn these translations! | ||
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Brazil136 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:52 [ur]Chin wrote: Nice. College scholarships for progamers. That's definitely a positive. I actually read this before on PlayXP Blizzard giving free scholarships, more the reason to play ScII.. Wish they'd do this for north america lol | ||
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Australia3091 Posts
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Rwanda460 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:52 [ur]Chin wrote: Nice. College scholarships for progamers. That's definitely a positive. great choice by blizz. This is great for them to do | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On June 03 2010 12:06 Kyo Yuy wrote: As much as I love playing Starcraft II, I must say I find Brood War to be more entertaining to watch and more macro intensive. Both are macro games, but I feel Brood War is really about macro especially in PvT. Try watching foreigners play BW, it's usually nowhere as entertaining to watch as Koreans either. When the SC1 pros start to switch over, I think matches will be really nice. | ||
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United States381 Posts
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Brazil2579 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:56 Nyx wrote: Does anybody else think, that this might make young koreans value playing starcraft over studying, "because if they get good they don't have to work to get into university"? You still have to maintain good marks to get into a good university. Scholarships just pay for you to attend the university. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
So under KeSPA kids drop out of school to be Progamers for BW but under Blizzard they're getting scholarships for college? Great plus for Korean Progamers. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:01 blabber wrote: this has been quite underwhelming There's still more to come I hope.....so far it's not much we don't already know. On June 24 2010 12:01 blade55555 wrote: So its not over is it? I thought it was going for like 4 hours It's going on for three hours. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
I guess it's lunch time | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
But seriously, good idea with the scholarships in a way..kinda disappointed that there is no "huge" Sc2 news, beta in the start of july, new partners (in korea V_V ) scholarships and an airplane.. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
Garimto vs Gruby | ||
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blabber
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Korea (South)153 Posts
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Canada691 Posts
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Canada370 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:05 KiWiKaKi wrote: what?? link http://www.playxp.com/sc2/livecast.php | ||
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dagene
United States75 Posts
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United States922 Posts
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rhap
Brazil136 Posts
I was expecting someone else lol. | ||
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United States1177 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:08 rhap wrote: Probably playing Grubby. I was expecting someone else lol. I was expecting like Sc1 progamers, not some WC3 player.. 12am in AST, going to bed, will catch up on the news in the morning. | ||
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
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Deadlift
United States358 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:08 Disastorm wrote: I think the scholarships and meals are pretty cool news though, I mean you can tell your friends that you play a game that has actual meals named after it and that gives out scholarships to the top players. http://blog.al.com/techcetera/2009/03/warcraftdew.jpg | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On June 24 2010 11:56 teamsolid wrote: Try watching foreigners play BW, it's usually nowhere as entertaining to watch as Koreans either. When the SC1 pros start to switch over, I think matches will be really nice. i dont see koreans playing sc2 being any more entertaining than foreigners. not the least bit. | ||
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rhap
Brazil136 Posts
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
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Crixus
Canada110 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:10 rhap wrote: LAN???!?!?!? i saw LAN too! | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:10 PhiliBiRD wrote: i dont see koreans playing sc2 being any more entertaining than foreigners. not the least bit. How do you figure? they play much better...multitasking, BO execution, builds.. Anyways, I hope actual progamers play..not retired / wc3 players.. | ||
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Canada691 Posts
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:10 PhiliBiRD wrote: i dont see koreans playing sc2 being any more entertaining than foreigners. not the least bit. I find the WNBA as exciting as the NBA. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
probably just the professional edition or whatever of SC2 that has LAN and is only used in offline tournaments, as was rumored | ||
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dagene
United States75 Posts
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Canada691 Posts
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United States381 Posts
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:25 Kantutan wrote: I waited all week for this and now we can't even watch it live... I don't think anybody was expecting it to be broadcast live. | ||
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blabber
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
The guy from PlayXP really didnt have to do this live texting | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
![[image loading]](http://me2daythumb.phinf.naver.net/20100624_230/me2photo_1277349849208yXkbp_jpg/playxp_1277349847_17693_me2photo.jpg?type=w500) Hydra toasted by psionic strom and bursting baneling cheese lol | ||
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United States203 Posts
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:30 Tanatos wrote: Hydra toasted by psionic strom and bursting baneling cheese lol The description doesnt have anything to do with the food lol | ||
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dagene
United States75 Posts
the guy thinks the match might be shown on gomtv at a later date (i think) | ||
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United States3247 Posts
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myopia
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
On June 24 2010 12:45 Bosu wrote: That food looks delicious. Really? Because to me, it looks like a tomato cut in half, with some shit thrown in for decoration. | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:03 intergalactic wrote: Really? Because to me, it looks like a tomato cut in half, with some shit thrown in for decoration. lmao | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:03 intergalactic wrote: Really? Because to me, it looks like a tomato cut in half, with some shit thrown in for decoration. That's called an appetizer. Probably as close as they could get to zergling bloodspots and exploding banelings which I'm pretty sure was what they were going for. Yum? | ||
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:07 Waxangel wrote:
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
Grubby is gonna pwn. | ||
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Sweden2 Posts
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Milkis
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On June 24 2010 13:14 jourtor wrote: Hai guys, I'm a Swedish photographer currently based in Seoul. Does anyone know how to get access to this event? Or is it open to "ordinary" ppl or does one have to RSVP etc? Way too late for that, they sent out invites long time ago, and it was closed invites only. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:14 jourtor wrote: Hai guys, I'm a Swedish photographer currently based in Seoul. Does anyone know how to get access to this event? Or is it open to "ordinary" ppl or does one have to RSVP etc? You are a bit late to the party. The event is almost over. | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Fuck. | ||
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
They can make so much money off the West! | ||
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Waxangel
United States33360 Posts
Source: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/livecast.php Q: Providing Korean WoW users with SC II for free seems like an interesting ploy, though there seems to be no legal problems with it. What lead you to chose this kind of strategy? A: We might suffer some losses in the short term, but the most important thing is the community. Having a loyal community is very beneficial in the long term. Q: Will you sell the game in physical packages? The CEO of Sonokong (a Korean toy manufacturer/Game distributor, they distributed the Warcraft III expansion pack last) is here, so what are your plans for PC Bangs? A: We decided that distributing the game online was the right way to go for the Korean market. You can easily play the game anywhere you want. Since we planned today as a marketing event, we're not really prepared to answers questions about logistics. Q: So you've made both a censored and uncensored version of the game, what are your plans for releasing the uncensored version of the game? A: We're considering all options at the moment. We want Korean gamers to have a similar experience to other gamers around the world. We'll try to achieve that without making things too complex. Q: Will you sell the collector's edition? A: No plans at the time. Q: What are the pricing plans for buying SC II and WoW playing time for use at PC Bangs? A: You can use WoW time brought at PCBangs to play SC II as well. Q: During the first phase of the closed beta you must have received a lot of feedback. What areas of the game did people want changed the most? A: We really received a lot of feedback. Balance, features, ladder, chatting, etc... The interesting thing about this beta was we held it in three different areas simultaneously. Because of this, the balance feedback differed from region to region. Korean gamers wanted zerg to be nerfed, while NA/Europe users kept asking for zerg buffs. This was because Korean gamers are very tactically astute, and those tactics spread to Europe and NA eventually. So the feedback from Korean gamers was very important. Q: Will the progamer scholarships be limited to ex-brood war gamers? A: We don't really know a lot about scholarships, which is why we donated the money to the Korean Student Aid Foundation, and told them where we'd like the money to be used. They will formulate a plan and reveal the details later. Q: Will there be plans to release the game in DVD format as was done with world of warcraft? A: We released WOW on DVD because there were many users who wanted it in that form. We'll have to find out what the demands of the SC II players are first, and then we'll decide on further distribution methods. Q: Are there any other region specific benefits in other areas? A: Making SC II free for WOW subscription holders is a Korea-only benefit. The market is different in every country, so we have to make the right choices for each one. Q: Will the 69,000 won unlimited use license apply to the expansion as well? A: It's too early to talk about the expansion. Q: What are your plans for Starcraft II Broadcasts? A: We plan to address that in the future. Q: There was a brief disconnect screen showing up during the special event today. What was the problem? Were you playing on LAN? A: We don't know why such an error occurred, and no there was no LAN mode. Q: Having to create a battle.net account might be a barrier of entry to new players? A: There are a lot of benefits to creating a battle.net account. And since future Blizzard games will be played through the account, we think it will be a minimal investment for most gamers. | ||
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Ndugu
United States1078 Posts
I imagine that they'll have the infrastructure in place to, every once in a while, give a free week of Starcraft II to WoW players in other regions. Kinda like the Blizzard versions of Steam's free weekends. | ||
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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:23 Waxangel wrote: underwhelming so far... I guess the big surprise Ms. Cho was referring to is the two planes with SC II images on it. I suppose it is big news in some respect, but not really for e-Sports fans. Pretty much summed up my thoughts perfectly. Awesome, 2 huge fucking planes! ...Now, about those e-sports......? I don't really think progamers are going to go buy WoW time to use on SC2. | ||
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tubs
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On June 24 2010 13:07 Waxangel wrote: [*]There will be an open beta starting in Korea and Taiwan on July 27th, alongside the official launching. Wait... am I reading this right? They are going to start an open beta in those two countries at the same time the game hits retail all over the world? What's the reasoning behind holding a beta when the game has already finished beta? I'm confused and confungled. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:32 tubs wrote: Wait... am I reading this right? They are going to start an open beta in those two countries at the same time the game hits retail all over the world? What's the reasoning behind holding a beta when the game has already finished beta? I'm confused and confungled. To let people try the game before buying probably. | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:35 zoLo wrote: To let people try the game before buying probably. in that case it would be called a demo, not a beta | ||
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tubs
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On June 24 2010 13:35 zoLo wrote: To let people try the game before buying probably. So is it just a lost in translation thing? I mean is the "open beta" really just what we'd call an unlimited free trial of the game? Beta usually implies the game is still in testing... which is contradictory to the game being released on the same day the beta starts. Also beta usually implies that you can submit bug reports and that patches will come really quickly based on those reports. Imagine if the 10 day free WOW trials were called 10 day open betas... would be super confusing. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
but this would be awesome if we were in korea! | ||
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Waxangel
United States33360 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:40 tubs wrote: So is it just a lost in translation thing? I mean is the "open beta" really just what we'd call an unlimited free trial of the game? Beta usually implies the game is still in testing... which is contradictory to the game being released on the same day the beta starts. Also beta usually implies that you can submit bug reports and that patches will come really quickly based on those reports. Imagine if the 10 day free WOW trials were called 10 day open betas... would be super confusing. from what I can tell, that's exactly what it seems to be, a free demo/trial | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
Garimto 2:0 Grubby | ||
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United States33360 Posts
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Canada3642 Posts
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Crixus
Canada110 Posts
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Q: There was a brief disconnect screen showing up during the special event today. What was the problem? Were you playing on LAN? A: We don't know why such an error occurred, and no there was no LAN mode. hmmm... fine example of why we would need lan. | ||
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Qwerty.
United States292 Posts
Korean gamers wanted zerg to be nerfed, while NA/Europe users kept asking for zerg buffs. This was because Korean gamers are very tactically astute, and those tactics spread to Europe and NA eventually. So the feedback from Korean gamers was very important. most interesting response by blizzard...we'll see how they'll ultimately balance/improve Z | ||
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Canada3509 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
seriously hope sc2 FAILS to establish in korea, not because i'm a bw nerd / sc2 hater, i just want blizzards ignorance get punished. | ||
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
Or can someone tell me what they played? Toss vs Toss? | ||
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SonKiE
United States167 Posts
On June 25 2010 04:14 Elefanto wrote: laughed @the server fail, can't understand how they want to boost the e-sports while denying lan. seriously hope sc2 FAILS to establish in korea, not because i'm a bw nerd / sc2 hater, i just want blizzards ignorance get punished. Sounds like a sc2 hater to me | ||
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Zapperkhan
United States436 Posts
On June 25 2010 04:14 Elefanto wrote: laughed @the server fail, can't understand how they want to boost the e-sports while denying lan. seriously hope sc2 FAILS to establish in korea, not because i'm a bw nerd / sc2 hater, i just want blizzards ignorance get punished. Yeah stick it to the man. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
Game 1: http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=24914250 Game 2: Part 1 - http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=24916138 Part 2 - http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=24916515 | ||
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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sinn
United States132 Posts
On June 25 2010 05:45 R0YAL wrote: Grubby (P) vs. Garimto (T) Game 1: http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=24914250 Game 2: Part 1 - http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=24916138 Part 2 - http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=24916515 Does anyone know if there's a non-korean site hosting these vids? It's insanely laggy for me =X Also, were there any changes to gameplay for these games? Or did they change nothing since the end of beta | ||
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
If you think that's bad, SEA and Aussie players have to pay 80 USD for the game =\ | ||
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Junkey
United States6 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I know Grubby from wc3 and all, but why the hell would he try and sneak an expo vs a cross map MMM player right above the dudes main? I mean wow, bad. | ||
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United States1808 Posts
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zergporn
Estonia156 Posts
YouTube: Part 1 YouTube: Part 2 YouTube: Part 3 OWN3D Full Lost Temple: YouTube OWN3D | ||
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Turkey173 Posts
On June 24 2010 13:21 Waxangel wrote: Q: During the first phase of the closed beta you must have received a lot of feedback. What areas of the game did people want changed the most? A: We really received a lot of feedback. Balance, features, ladder, chatting, etc... The interesting thing about this beta was we held it in three different areas simultaneously. Because of this, the balance feedback differed from region to region. Korean gamers wanted zerg to be nerfed, while NA/Europe users kept asking for zerg buffs. This was because Korean gamers are very tactically astute, and those tactics spread to Europe and NA eventually. So the feedback from Korean gamers was very important. wow man, after reading this. I really wonder why the hell blizzard arsed to establish beta testing in other regions. They were totally ready to ignore feedbacks from other regions. "Non-Korean testers says X, Korean testers says Y. LOL ofc we are going to do Y not crappy non-koreans X because they are total noobs and koreans own" just lol. I am not saying Korean are worse than non-Koreans, they are #1 nation in e-sports after all, but the way comment comes sounds lol. | ||
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France17 Posts
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Norway154 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
Grubby had the expos advantage but he wasn't making the right units to counter the mass tanks +3M, and his push attempt at Garimto's planetary fortress was a huge mistake, I don't know if he realizes that the planetary fortress dishes out a lot of damage. | ||
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