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Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
June 03 2010 13:38 GMT
#2061
ALL CANCEL PREORDER
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
June 03 2010 13:44 GMT
#2062
On June 03 2010 18:17 Soel wrote:
no chat rooms is horse shit.

but.. do you really want chat rooms?
Proburu
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
June 03 2010 14:08 GMT
#2063
What the fuck is problem with blizzard??

I AM DISSAPPOINT
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
June 03 2010 14:10 GMT
#2064
This is very unfortunate news. Chat channels are not something that I particularly care about, but Blizzard is not really listening to the feedback from the majority of players here.

I'm very annoyed at the regions' situation. I don't think players should have to have a workaround in order to play in international tournaments. There's workarounds, of course, tournament sponsors loaning out guest accounts for players, etcetera, but should that be necessary ? Australia is in the Asia server, and that's going to make it difficult for them to find friends with English speakers. I mean, we've probably all found friends on Battle.net 2.0, but what kind of people were they ? People who had a substantial language barrier ? Not usually. Usually the people you friend are people who talk to you afterwards and make good comments or suggestions about your style, or who are really nice, etcetera. The language barrier in the Asia server is going to cause some issues with that, especially without chat channels to look for players of the same language. Even Asian players might be annoyed when they end up facing English-speaking players they can't communicate with. The lag that supposedly justifies locking regions should be up to the player. If the player doesn't want to play in the US server, then he should have the choice to deal with a little lag in another server; it should be up to him.

Regarding LAN play, I think Husky actually put it very well when he said something like "It's like having a car, but you can't always drive it when you want to". If Battle.net is down and you want to play with your friends, too bad. I mean, Brood War got a LOT of players into it because of LAN. Blizzard is simply ignoring how important LAN was to a substantial amount of StarCraft players, and those players are going to be lost customers at launch.

I wish Blizzard would think these things through from a fan's standpoint, rather than just really trying to push this new system. It's a great system, I admit, but is missing things that StarCraft players would find to be crucial.
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Soss
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium6 Posts
June 03 2010 14:19 GMT
#2065
Very sorry to say but:

Battle.net 2 = IWNet

And there it went through the same process. The entire community complains before the release, they /ignore and Modern Warfare 2 sales-figures still sky-rocketed. With SC2 it's gonna be exactly the same.
No pain no gain
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
June 03 2010 14:31 GMT
#2066
On June 03 2010 23:19 Soss wrote:
Very sorry to say but:

Battle.net 2 = IWNet

And there it went through the same process. The entire community complains before the release, they /ignore and Modern Warfare 2 sales-figures still sky-rocketed. With SC2 it's gonna be exactly the same.


It's true. Everyone that bought MW2 has enabled this to happen.

No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of plain people.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 15:00:38
June 03 2010 15:00 GMT
#2067
there is one difference though, and that is that RTS does not nearly have the broad appeal of a FPS like CoD or a game like WoW.

I mean rly, try to get girls to play RTS.
then if they do, you can lol.

So I highly doubt, all proportions being taken into account, that SC2 will sell as easily as MW2 simply for that fact. It's not the same crowds.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 16:56:25
June 03 2010 16:55 GMT
#2068
On June 04 2010 00:00 shlomo wrote:
there is one difference though, and that is that RTS does not nearly have the broad appeal of a FPS like CoD or a game like WoW.



RTS games are viewed by many in the industry as a "dying genre". Starcraft 2 will sell well. Of that their is little doubt. But its long term success is far from assured. And this comes to the grand point of this all.



People do not buy Blizzard games. They buy confidence in Blizzard. They purchase long term faith that the company will give them an excellent fully supported video game experience. The reason this works is that Blizzard (unlike any other company) has NEVER let them down. As soon as that happens that bond is broken and it takes hell and back to rebuild it. Blizzard themselves have stated "The Blizzard name is our most important property*".


How fitting it is than that they are now called Activision Blizzard.




*+ Show Spoiler +

Brand protection is also vital to the company's success, he said. "The Blizzard name is our most important property," Morhaime said, adding that brand protection is one of the reasons Blizzard resists pressure to ship games early. Referring to the practice as "very risky," he said, "Shipping a game early can do tremendous damage to a brand or franchise." The industry should begin thinking "long term," he said, pointing out that "nobody looks back at Diablo and says, 'If only they'd released it three weeks earlier.'" Diablo, originally slated to be released for the 1996 holiday season, missed its target but still became a tremendous success.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/76611-Blizzard-President-Mike-Morhaime-Delivers-Austin-GDC-Keynote
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
June 03 2010 17:01 GMT
#2069
I mean rly, try to get girls to play RTS.
then if they do, you can lol.


I'm a girl. And I know several girls who play RTS's. Don’t generalise.
To Death we shall all go.
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 17:04:25
June 03 2010 17:03 GMT
#2070
On June 04 2010 01:55 Archerofaiur wrote:
People do not buy Blizzard games. They buy confidence in Blizzard. They purchase long term faith that the company will give them an excellent fully supported video game experience. The reason this works is that Blizzard (unlike any other company) has NEVER let them down. As soon as that happens that bond is broken and it takes hell and back to rebuild it. Blizzard themselves have stated "The Blizzard name is our most important property*".


This is so very true. Just like Husky I have grown up playing blizzard games since I was 9. I've grown up loving the company, putting money and time into the company, and gotten a lot out of it. Over the years I've purchased starcraft probably 5-6 times, D2+LoD twice, WC3+TFT twice, and 3 copies of the original WoW (1 of each expansion after that). I will play any game that blizzard makes, and I must admit this is my first RTS beta I've played with them. (I've been in WoW betas)

I have faith that SC2 will be great, I know blizzard, I don't care that they are partnered with activision, they are still Blizzard. However, I am worried that they are rushing the game, something they never do. This game has been pushed back and pushed back, and I believe the game itself is ready. However, the framework which is now a required part of the experience (BNet2.0) is not ready.

Blizzard needs to do a lot during these weeks that beta will be down for BNet2.0. They have 2 more expansions to balance the game, but no one will buy those if BNet2.0 turns out to be a horrible experience. Blizzard is forcing us to use it, it HAS to be blizzard quality if they expect us to keep our faith in them.

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GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 17:07:39
June 03 2010 17:04 GMT
#2071
On June 04 2010 02:01 Zabimaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
I mean rly, try to get girls to play RTS.
then if they do, you can lol.


I'm a girl. And I know several girls who play RTS's. Don’t generalise.

I don't think hes generalizing I haven't found that many girls play RTS's compared to other game types, personally I've met more playing FPS's then anything else besides maybe WoW but I'm sure there is alot more then you'd imagine playing RTS's.
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
Plethora
Profile Joined July 2007
United States206 Posts
June 03 2010 17:07 GMT
#2072
So all the people here who have said they won't purchase the game. Keep in mind there is at least 6 weeks or so until launch day assuming no delays. You're going to have plenty of time to start thinking "hey, it's not that bad, and its not like the game itself is bad".

Blizz knows damn well that as long as they don't fuel the fire (by continuing to say things we don't want to hear in interviews and the like), the fire will likely go out all by itself before launch.

Everyone remember this, and stay strong dammit!
... Still like Brood War better... lol
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 03 2010 17:13 GMT
#2073
On June 03 2010 23:19 Soss wrote:
Very sorry to say but:

Battle.net 2 = IWNet

And there it went through the same process. The entire community complains before the release, they /ignore and Modern Warfare 2 sales-figures still sky-rocketed. With SC2 it's gonna be exactly the same.


SC2 won't be released on console... and there in lies the huge difference.

IWNet was designed for consoles. Even though the moron at IW net tried to sell it to the community everyone KNEW that IWnet was primarily designed for consoles and they were just too lazy to give PC a dedicated server platform.

The IWnet format is terrible for computers. I know this from personal experience. It's terrible in every way. No chat rooms, no choosing maps, and other assorted things makes for a desolate gaming experience.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
June 03 2010 17:22 GMT
#2074
So when is the shit storm happening? I'd like to know so I can get my umbrella.
savz
Profile Joined May 2010
8 Posts
June 03 2010 18:40 GMT
#2075
I just cancelled my preorder.

I was angry, now I just don't care anymore.

I'm keeping an eye out for some other RTS game now. One that offers the tools for building community and a meaningful ladder + tournament features for competetive play.

revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
June 03 2010 19:11 GMT
#2076
My god people are sure angry. Yeah b.net 2.0 isn't perfect but I do see a lot of good stuff in there. Functionality will be added eventually, you know Blizzard wont just ignore this stuff once they hear it. I don't think people understand how difficult it can be to get these things to work.

TBH the only thing I am really upset about is the buy another copy if you want to play on a different server, that's just greedy and stupid.

As for the game itself, it is a darn good successor to the original.
Perfect Balance
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 19:17:42
June 03 2010 19:14 GMT
#2077
On June 04 2010 02:01 Zabimaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
I mean rly, try to get girls to play RTS.
then if they do, you can lol.


I'm a girl. And I know several girls who play RTS's. Don’t generalise.


"Omgz, a reel grl! I mean, ehem, my naem iz Perfect Balance, how r u? Omg guyz its a rl girl!

Man, I wish the fans on this website and otherwise would stop buying Blizzard products when they say they will. I said I would, and I am definitely NOT buying it. It will be sad, but eventually there will be other ways of playing the game. I'm sure of it!
"Do you REALLY want chat rooms?" - You're good Blizzard! I was just fakin' it!
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
June 03 2010 19:16 GMT
#2078
Yeah, some girls play RTS.
Hell, my wife plays Sc2 once in a while.

They're just all terrible.
I mean just look at the would be progamer ladies in Korea and what happens when they play against the guys. Pretty much => /faceplam
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 19:23:09
June 03 2010 19:21 GMT
#2079
On June 04 2010 04:16 shlomo wrote:
Yeah, some girls play RTS.
Hell, my wife plays Sc2 once in a while.

They're just all terrible.


(T)ToSsGirL

I'd marry her.


Edit: Wow tossgirl is not as good as I thought, but still, shes a pro.

"Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined." Learn how to post: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7228 Posts
June 03 2010 19:53 GMT
#2080
On June 04 2010 04:11 revy wrote:
My god people are sure angry. Yeah b.net 2.0 isn't perfect but I do see a lot of good stuff in there. Functionality will be added eventually, you know Blizzard wont just ignore this stuff once they hear it. I don't think people understand how difficult it can be to get these things to work.

TBH the only thing I am really upset about is the buy another copy if you want to play on a different server, that's just greedy and stupid.

As for the game itself, it is a darn good successor to the original.



They ignored War3' replays with friends on bnet forever
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