The state of Battle.net 2.0 - Page 25

On May 25 2010 01:25 EliteAzn wrote:
Please hold off the complaining until the game comes out.

For the billionth time by the billionth person
THIS IS BETA

On May 25 2010 01:25 EliteAzn wrote:
Please hold off the complaining until the game comes out.

For the billionth time by the billionth person
THIS IS BETA

On May 25 2010 01:30 Renaissance wrote:

This post would be acceptable if the release date wasn't TWO MONTHS AWAY.

On May 25 2010 01:32 irishash wrote:


um think about it. it took overnight for blizzard to patch some huge changes to zerg, and you think two months isn't enough time to make some other major changes if they want?

On May 25 2010 01:36 Perfect Balance wrote:
Telling people that they shouldn't complain about a game before they buy it, is asinine.

A company is deliberately trying to minimize communication between its customers, and implementing features that aim at getting a peek at your private life and habits - THEN making you sign an agreement saying they can use that information for any purpose - is clearly open for criticism.

Then don't use it. You're not forced to sign up for Facebook integration in order to play the game. I would think that people using Facebook already either aren't aware, or don't care, about their privacy, anyway. This whole security madness about Facebook recently is hilarious. Like all of a sudden people realized they're putting personal information on the internet on a daily basis.

On May 25 2010 00:37 rackdude wrote:


No, they DO exist. THEY come from things like C&C and WOW. Why would you BUY those games if you're NOT casual?

But seriously, there are casual gamers. Most of them are age 20ish-40 women who do "microgaming". They pay the most for in game content and they constantly flip games for the newest Zombies vs Plants. I thought my mom (yeah, my mom) was odd that she did that, but it's now becoming the norm. And it's a big cash cow. Blizzard is trying to get that demographic because they have the money, but they normally only buy smaller games. So you can see Blizzard's active attempt to get the demographic.

http://www.1pstart.com/women-dominate-casual-gaming/ (Read the title)

http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/13/casual-gaming-women-tech-personal-cx_bc_0314casual.html

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5995

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/17/technology/17drill.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704882404574463652777885432.html (Activision is mentioned in this one)

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2006/10/7922.ars



Now does the marketing make sense? Does the UI make sense? Does the censorship make sense? It just follows this research (and much more). They took the man who implemented casual gaming into Xbox (Xbox arcade) and made him head of Bnet 2.0


There is also a lot of research into achievements and casual gaming. I cannot find it right now because I think it was a few psychology papers from journals, but they are finding this demographic and they are finding they have the money. You know what else you find? They want the "fluff"/achievements.

PS. RANDOM CAPS is very annoying at least to me. You MAY want to not use them. It will get your point across better.

On May 25 2010 01:41 EliteAzn wrote:
remember, there is a huge hardware/software update that is triggering the end of phase 1.

Start making complaint posts after phase 2 begins.

On May 25 2010 01:46 Perfect Balance wrote:


You're signing an agreement with Blizzard as you enter Battle.net. They can use any of your chat, text, any map you produce and any custom content, and sell it for their own gain. That's ONE issue. Then there is the missing: LAN, basic chat, customized games, hosting, clan support.

The users are getting a bad deal, and being led behind the light, it's sickening that so many of you accept this.

On May 25 2010 01:27 junemermaid wrote:
All this rage is expected from people who don't understand what is being done. B.net 2.0 is the new system that Blizzard is using for ALL THEIR GAMES, not just sc2. This is on the level of a Steam client release.

Does anyone remember Steam's release? Buggy friends list, laggy as hell connections, crashes on start up, inability to launch games, chat windows that wouldn't deliver messages, updates that never installed properly, memory leaks, the list goes on and on.

This doesn't get ironed out in the beta phase (steam didn't, so why do we expect this from bnet 2.0?). A lot of steam's functionality wasn't implemented until quite some time later. I expect no more or less from bnet 2.0. When all is said and done, however, I expect b.net 2.0 to live up to all the hype its garnered. This should include all the points being discussed currently (chat rooms, global ladder, tournament systems, clan channels, online replays etc...). To demand it at release or during beta unwarranted; demanding it during launch is a little more reasonable, but understandable if it isn't delivered.

Anyone expecting a smooth and easy ride when buying on day 0 for SC2 is naive. All I need to do is point to Half-Life 2 & CS:S implementation of steam for precedence.

On May 25 2010 01:49 Bibdy wrote:


Me, I'm paying for a game that I get to play and kill imaginary things in during my spare time after work. I don't plan to release any personal information or recite my potentially award-winning novels to people in the middle of these games.

I don't need Facebook to do any of that, either. I log in, kill stuff, log out.

Now, if you're the kind of person who opens up every conversation with "Hey, want to hear about this amazing screenplay I wrote?", then yeah, you might run into problems.

On May 25 2010 01:27 junemermaid wrote:
All this rage is expected from people who don't understand what is being done. B.net 2.0 is the new system that Blizzard is using for ALL THEIR GAMES, not just sc2. This is on the level of a Steam client release.

Does anyone remember Steam's release? Buggy friends list, laggy as hell connections, crashes on start up, inability to launch games, chat windows that wouldn't deliver messages, updates that never installed properly, memory leaks, the list goes on and on.

This doesn't get ironed out in the beta phase (steam didn't, so why do we expect this from bnet 2.0?). A lot of steam's functionality wasn't implemented until quite some time later. I expect no more or less from bnet 2.0. When all is said and done, however, I expect b.net 2.0 to live up to all the hype its garnered. This should include all the points being discussed currently (chat rooms, global ladder, tournament systems, clan channels, online replays etc...). To demand it at release or during beta unwarranted; demanding it during launch is a little more reasonable, but understandable if it isn't delivered.

Anyone expecting a smooth and easy ride when buying on day 0 for SC2 is naive. All I need to do is point to Half-Life 2 & CS:S implementation of steam for precedence.

On May 25 2010 01:27 junemermaid wrote:
All this rage is expected from people who don't understand what is being done. B.net 2.0 is the new system that Blizzard is using for ALL THEIR GAMES, not just sc2. This is on the level of a Steam client release.

Does anyone remember Steam's release? Buggy friends list, laggy as hell connections, crashes on start up, inability to launch games, chat windows that wouldn't deliver messages, updates that never installed properly, memory leaks, the list goes on and on.

This doesn't get ironed out in the beta phase (steam didn't, so why do we expect this from bnet 2.0?). A lot of steam's functionality wasn't implemented until quite some time later. I expect no more or less from bnet 2.0. When all is said and done, however, I expect b.net 2.0 to live up to all the hype its garnered. This should include all the points being discussed currently (chat rooms, global ladder, tournament systems, clan channels, online replays etc...). To demand it at release or during beta unwarranted; demanding it during launch is a little more reasonable, but understandable if it isn't delivered.

Anyone expecting a smooth and easy ride when buying on day 0 for SC2 is naive. All I need to do is point to Half-Life 2 & CS:S implementation of steam for precedence.

On May 25 2010 01:57 Perfect Balance wrote:


Comedy is a good way of disarming serious topics that need to be discussed, good job.

There are some major issues here: Our privacy is being violated without any prior notice, the work that we put into a custom map is stolen by Blizzard to make money. The user will receive a small "cut" of the income Blizzard makes from selling content that you've made. This would be illegal if you didn't sign an agreement giving away all your rights to Blizzard. They can basically do anything they want with ANY of your facebook information without your permission.

After deliberately removing LAN, chat, clan support and some basic features to prevent users from communicating, Blizzard will steal your map and charge people money for it, hi-jack your LAN event and demand a cut from the income, then sell your private information to an ad company.