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An Open Letter to Blizzard Regarding Divisions - Page 5

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eSuba.DeViL
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic5 Posts
May 22 2010 11:51 GMT
#81
signed, we really need global rankings. What blizzard did in new patch - lets show how bad it is. Make everyone nickname on bnet same, something like 'White-Ra' and there will be so many players with this nick and we can hope blizzard will see how badly was remove identifiers. BTW im sorry to White-Ra for example his nice nickname ;]
asd
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
May 22 2010 11:52 GMT
#82
Brilliant.

Signed.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 22 2010 11:53 GMT
#83
On May 22 2010 19:04 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Signed a million times over.

. . . nevermore
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
May 22 2010 11:55 GMT
#84
While I see the current system as completely awful, I think they should just make the ladders open for search. I want to be able to have a page like the wow armory where I can browse the stats of all players and their rankings, even if that means they keep their arbitrary divisions.

But best thing of cause, would be to have one big bad ass division with everyone from Diamond, instead of divisions, or instead of those shitty battlegroups they figured out were such a success in WoW. A hint as to why they're doing this I think.
@Munck
Gibybo
Profile Joined May 2007
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 11:57:31
May 22 2010 11:55 GMT
#85
On May 22 2010 20:53 Integra wrote:
<beating a dead horse animation>


We're in beta and major changes continue to be made to the ladder system. When something is this obviously broken, I will not give up until it's fixed.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
May 22 2010 11:56 GMT
#86
Hm, i dont really think that a global ranking is needed, its a fun toy to look at but the true measurement for players will be in tournaments. ladder in my eyes is practice and on higher levels probably mostly used when no practice partner is online for cgs.
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Korpze
Profile Joined March 2010
United States27 Posts
May 22 2010 11:58 GMT
#87
/signed
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
May 22 2010 11:59 GMT
#88
I really hope blizzard takes this seriously.

/Signed
drunkensolo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany56 Posts
May 22 2010 11:59 GMT
#89
/signed
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
May 22 2010 12:03 GMT
#90
Divisions and whatnot are fine, and the removal of division numbers just makes it so people stop thinking lower number = better players... The biggest issue is with the inability to see rankings, as you've pointed out.
iAmSoniK
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada246 Posts
May 22 2010 12:09 GMT
#91
I agree totally.

they could still keep the leagues but take off the divisions.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 12:17:55
May 22 2010 12:10 GMT
#92
On May 22 2010 20:53 Integra wrote:
[image loading]

when blizzard refuses to acknowledge the flaws, then we're going to continue to voice our criticism
and not only did they not acknowledge the problems, they made bnet 2.0 even worse

On May 22 2010 20:56 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Hm, i dont really think that a global ranking is needed, its a fun toy to look at but the true measurement for players will be in tournaments. ladder in my eyes is practice and on higher levels probably mostly used when no practice partner is online for cgs.


there is not a single amateur-pro gamer that did not, at one time, take a league/ladder practice very seriously
on the release of the wc3, all the very best players were playing mass games on the ladder for many months until the game eventually faded from WoW hype and the competition died out

Ladder competition isnt going to die out until the second expansion pack is released, all the strategies are established, and sponsored teams are assembled
A big reason the ladder isnt competitive because 1) it isnt global so you wont even know who is at the top and 2) there isnt a top 16-32 player tournament at the end of each season for actual incentive to top the ladder
long after wc3's strong competitive base faded away, blizzard managed to resurrect a little bit of the competition by creating a special ladder where the top players were invited to their blizzard world wide invitational tournament
people took this ladder VERY seriously

I envisioned a global ladder where the top 32 players are taken weekly or monthly for a bnet run tournament
this would create a large amount of games played by competitive gamers on the ladder at the end of the week/month probably

i thought they were going to do something like this except with the more complicated divisional system (top 8 from each division)
freezingcat
Profile Joined May 2010
1 Post
May 22 2010 12:11 GMT
#93
agree and signed
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
May 22 2010 12:13 GMT
#94
well composed and totally right
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#95
/signed

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lovewithlea
Profile Joined March 2010
168 Posts
May 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#96
supporting this
aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
May 22 2010 12:17 GMT
#97
I agree completely.

also, people on the battlenet forums are kind of stupid...
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 22 2010 12:18 GMT
#98
great job on ur site and great job on ur mail agree with all
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
DigitalD[562]
Profile Joined April 2010
United States80 Posts
May 22 2010 12:20 GMT
#99
SIGNED
even though I'm in the copper/silver range I would like to see exactly where I stand so I can tell if I'm makeing any progress or not.
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
May 22 2010 12:21 GMT
#100
On May 22 2010 19:53 billyX333 wrote:
the current sc2 dev team is so stubborn!
they hear criticism and get defensive
they passionately defend their poor ideas to protect their ego, and refuse to objectively look at the pile of garbage they've created (bnet 2.0)


You're sorely wrong on that. There are some apparent correlation between patches and discussion that were had on Team Liquid. The Starcraft 2 development team listens to these thread and they sometimes make change related to them.

On the subject though, I don't have any gripe with the ladder system. I think ratings are trivial and only matter when used to match a player against a player of similar skill. In my experience, that works. Knowing your rating relatively to others serves only to indicate improvement or decrease. I see the ladder as being adequate.
Having a global ladder with a single division would not necessarily be more accurate. It would however, be far more crowded. As for the top players, isn't the the professional league?
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