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An Open Letter to Blizzard Regarding Divisions - Page 13

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Adonisto
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada191 Posts
May 22 2010 21:25 GMT
#241
/signed
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
May 22 2010 21:27 GMT
#242
/Signed

The top 1000 from sc/wc3 ladder gave me a huge drive to improve my play. It was a huge moment for me when I finally made it on the top 1000 in wc3, I was now on the official ladder ranking page for all to see! I felt truly triumphant!
Yet I still had a long way to go, still a thousand players for me to set my sights on and it drove me to improve my rank. I don't have that feeling with the current system, and I really miss it.
Blizzard, I humbly ask you to return a global ranking system to Starcraft 2.
Stripe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States67 Posts
May 22 2010 21:31 GMT
#243
I find it amusing that some people whine about Blizzard catering to new players and the "everybody is a winner" mentality.

Stroking your e-peen to a global ranking to feel better about yourself is basically the same thing as the division system, but catering to the opposite side of the player-base.

I support having the division system and then having a pro league at the very top that's ranked, so everyone gets satisfied.
Sowers
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 22:25:34
May 22 2010 22:25 GMT
#244
AGREEEEE, Its a shame, I know there are millions of competitors, but knowing where you stand in comparison to EVERYONE is something we all desire.

Also feel that when you get to the top of your division you get kind of slack, and feel lethargic with no other thing to "aim for" persay.
Live or die
ultimaniac
Profile Joined May 2010
United States7 Posts
May 22 2010 22:39 GMT
#245
signed
lentus
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland10 Posts
May 22 2010 22:57 GMT
#246
signed
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
May 22 2010 23:07 GMT
#247
Signed. Hope this catches Blizzard's attention.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
May 22 2010 23:15 GMT
#248
signed.
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
kefka0
Profile Joined December 2008
United States10 Posts
May 22 2010 23:21 GMT
#249
/signed
prosky
Profile Joined January 2007
Poland83 Posts
May 22 2010 23:29 GMT
#250
I won't sign it, since i think this kind of ladder is better for number of people that are going to be in sc2. But i don't like it in 100% of course. I stated it in some other topic here on tl net. Those leagues and number of divisions in it should be like a pyramid. Having infinite number of TOP league is just stupid. I will show u that using my pro drawing skillz.


How it is now: ( BEHOLD OF MY PAINT SKILLZ!):
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1952/isnow.jpg

Quite plain and stupid system we have now, don't we?

How i think it should be :
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8877/shouldbe.jpg

I find it more interesting and giving more info about players. After all sc2 is competetive game and we we want it to be like that. But, those are just my wishes, nothing more ; - /
w00t th3 f00ck ?
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
May 22 2010 23:31 GMT
#251
/signed
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
Sieg
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada42 Posts
May 22 2010 23:35 GMT
#252
/signed

I don't like this carebear approach to the game either. Ladder is ladder, and should be competitive, Viking Romeo doesn't tell me a thing.
NeSS1
Profile Joined April 2010
United States101 Posts
May 22 2010 23:37 GMT
#253
/Signed
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
May 22 2010 23:42 GMT
#254
also /signed.

It's just extremely dissapointing how obscure and restricted the new Battle Net 2.0 is.
Especially the ladder ranking system is a huge punch in everyone's face, who loves to look trough the ladder rankings. I remember doing this a lot in Wc3.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
May 22 2010 23:51 GMT
#255
/signed

Seriously, there's no reason to hide it. I'm a bad player, and I still want to compare myself to others. Remember iccup? Boy, I sure do remember saying how much I didn't want to be looking at the standings.

What's frustrating is, Blizzard has said nothing about which features will or will not be in Battle.net 2.0 at the release of StarCraft II, but almost everything I've seen - from horrible service to lack of even the simplest features that the original Battle.net took for granted - is a disappointing mess.

Just... disappointing.
TL+ Member
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
May 22 2010 23:57 GMT
#256
/signed
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
T)AK47
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States46 Posts
May 23 2010 00:02 GMT
#257
/signed
With God, we can change the world one person at a time
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
May 23 2010 00:04 GMT
#258
So many spammers with /signed burying actual posts.

Regarding my previous posts, one thing I'd like them to add is a "league ladder" because divisions have too small of a player pool to judge. I still stand besides the league system though, and that comparing players between leagues is pointless.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 00:06:28
May 23 2010 00:05 GMT
#259
IMO this is one of the BETTER aspects of Bnet 2.
I don't care about my stupid Logo. Or how superior I feel bragging about it on TL.
99% of games I am matched up with someone very very comparable skill to me. Their APM is usually similar as well as their overall skill.
This has proven true as I've worked my way through most of the Leagues and improved.
Though- I understand this isn't true for the top 1% of players- this is because there could be very few on who would even offer you resistance.

Lots of things about 2.0 are trash though- don't get me wrong. Challenging, but not overly difficult games- have been in abundance thus far for me.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
May 23 2010 00:06 GMT
#260
I think the ICCUP-like system would be better, just replace the rank names. D->Copper, C->Bronze etc. and 0-500 Copper, 500-1000 Bronze etc.
ggaemo fan
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