EPTAn Open Letter to Blizzard Regarding Divisions - Page 11
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DrivE
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Deleted User 47542
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shiroinohito
United States38 Posts
cool site btw, how often does it update? | ||
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AdahnSC
United States376 Posts
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
I support the idea of being able to toggle your personal view from divisional and global rankings. I find little reason anyone could argue otherwise- to simply give users the choice to view the information they desire in the way that pleases them would make everybody happy. I'll even go as far to say that I'm fine with the default option being divisional rankings, but there is no reason that I know of to not allow us a choice. Not so much digging the idea of "division rankings for everything except the top league," though. It's either got to be one way, the other, or both, for all leagues. | ||
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Tenda
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CynanMachae
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Squanto
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XeRoCrYSiS
United States18 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Shade692003
Canada702 Posts
You just have to break this mentally of ladder, that accompanied most RTS and Blizzard's since pretty much forever. Instead, think of sports (...esports?) leagues. Look at baseball. There is : Minor League Little League Junior League Senior League Big League Major League (the MLB) Says you have a kid playing in the minor league. Do you think he cares about his ranking, from every single baseball players around the USA? No he doesn't, what he cares about is performing well within his division. He wants to do well against other people from his league, and over time he might move up to another league, but the "goal" is not necessarily to be in the MLB (plat). If you're in silver/copper, that doesn't mean you fail, you are just in the skill group appropriate for you, and from there you can be competitive, within you're league, like everyone else. He knows a MLB team could rape him a new one, but that's not the point those players are "out of his league" and he knows it. A global ranking is then completely pointless, because the skill range is just too wide. It's the exact same thing with Starcraft. With this model everyone can be competitive, with the old one players who weren't in the top 1000th lost interest. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
On May 23 2010 03:38 Shade692003 wrote: They won't make a global ranking because it's meaningless for 99% of the playerbase. Pretty much only platiniums players would care, because for everyone else being 10,509th doesn't tell much, and doesn't make you care about being in the ladder. If you're 200th of course you start to get interest, but that's because you're probably "in the league" with the top. You just have to break this mentally of ladder, that accompanied most RTS and Blizzard's since pretty much forever. Instead, think of sports (...esports?) leagues. Look at baseball. There is : Minor League Little League Junior League Senior League Big League Major League (the MLB) Says you have a kid playing in the minor league. Do you think he cares about his ranking, from every single baseball players around the USA? No he doesn't, what he cares about is performing well within his division. He wants to do well against other people from his league, and over time he might move up to another league, but the "goal" is not necessarily to be in the MLB (plat). If you're in silver/copper, that doesn't mean you fail, you are just in the skill group appropriate for you, and from there you can be competitive, within you're league, like everyone else. He knows a MLB team could rape him a new one, but that's not the point those players are "out of his league" and he knows it. A global ranking is then completely pointless, because the skill range is just too wide. It's the exact same thing with Starcraft. With this model everyone can be competitive, with the old one players who weren't in the top 1000th lost interest. They could make more plat/gold/silver etc. and have no divisions. | ||
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refraxion
Canada88 Posts
As an aside, sad to see so many people actually did switch over to terran. In my diamond division alone, I think more than 50% are terran now. | ||
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chraej.
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having such a fragmented ladder really detracts from the competitive aspect of the game, trying to promote competition while equalizing everyone and making everyone feel like they are just as important/skilled as everyone else defeats the purpose of competitive ladder play. I am also completely confused by the addition of a "diamond" league and removal of copper (how does diamond even fit in among the list of metals?). Seems like blizz is indeed trying to make everyone feel important by giving them all special titles. | ||
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
SORRY FOR FLAME: I played this fucking noob a day ago, who's play style was just soo gay and cheesy he won me over like that (again sorry for flame). I rage quit calling me a fag, and I play him AGAIN after the matching system. Kind of an awkward and embarassing moment after I flamed him... (But I still won). Again the main point is, you shouldn't play the same person 2 times in a row in a random ladder matchup. | ||
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Attris
United States175 Posts
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Shade692003
Canada702 Posts
On May 23 2010 04:18 Zurles wrote: They could make more plat/gold/silver etc. and have no divisions. That they could, but the league system definitively have it's place. The divisions system in sports exists mainly because of geographical issues anyway. (East/West division in National Hockey League for instance). I could see tournaments between top divisions like playoffs though. | ||
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