I guess I'm the only person who likes the divisions?

It is a little more fun to compete with a small group than one where you have to look through 6000 pages just to get an indication of where you are at. It makes the competition feel a little more tight and close-knit. You can still compare your rating if you want to have penis-measuring contests.

That said, a pro league would be absolutely awesome, and would abolish any reservations about the system.

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

May 23 2010 06:49 GMT

#282

On the old Xbox, I remember my brother being SOO stoked when he broke into like the top 100 players in the US on John Madden '05 or something. But, he did that because he kept playing when he was ranked 9000. Or 14000.
Getting to the top of your Division, of 100 people, isn't really telling you a whole lot.
Especially since their matchmaking system seems to work so well, I don't see why anyone would be concerned knowing they were ranked 15,000 if all the games they played were well balanced, challenging and fun.

Wi)nD

Canada719 Posts

May 23 2010 06:50 GMT

#283

/signed

really nice letter, well formated, total support

++ mad props for making that ladder ranking

GenesisX

Canada4267 Posts

May 23 2010 06:54 GMT

#284

I like leagues, but I see no point for divisions

Golden Ghost

Netherlands1041 Posts

May 23 2010 07:23 GMT

#285

I concur

Pigsquirrel

United States615 Posts

May 23 2010 07:25 GMT

#286

Absolutely. I especially agree with the lack of unique names. That just makes me mad.

/signed

Atticus.axl

United States456 Posts

May 23 2010 07:45 GMT

#287

/signed

aTnClouD

Italy2428 Posts

May 23 2010 07:50 GMT

#288

/signed

Shrewmy

Australia199 Posts

May 23 2010 09:56 GMT

#289

You do realise that the Division Numbers are just arbitrary and pointless, right? They only exist based on when you joined the ladder, they have no bearing on your actual skill.

If you mean comparing via points and Win/Loss ratios, then sure, I guess.

I wouldn't mind being able to check out how people in Silver, Gold etc. are doing as well.

Jayson X

Switzerland2431 Posts

May 23 2010 10:00 GMT

#290

On May 23 2010 12:06 Kennigit wrote:"you are the most handsome, smartest boy in the world

you are great

But you are.

Man Divisions look even more crappy after the patch. Tables are way too spaced but the window is smaller??? What's up with that. It's like it's some kind of side feature now noone should really care about...

shenkiepenkie

23 Posts

May 23 2010 10:05 GMT

#291

/signed

Space_C0wb0y

Germany41 Posts

May 23 2010 10:41 GMT

#292

/Signed

OverTheUnder

United States2929 Posts

May 23 2010 10:45 GMT

#293

/signed

omg.deus

Korea (South)150 Posts

May 23 2010 10:49 GMT

#294

On May 23 2010 12:06 Kennigit wrote:
You know what irks me about the whole thing? I feel like its my mom trying to protect me from the real world when i was 5 years old.

"you are the most handsome, smartest boy in the world

you are great

"

It's ok mom, you can let me know how bad i am at SC2. I'm not as stupid as those kids in the playground (xbox live). The hundreds of thousands of players that took part in Iccup/wgtour at their primes should be evidence that yes in fact players CAN handle the knowledge that they aren't as good as others.

Would i rather be shown that im not good, or have information hidden to protect me from quitting cause im so mad....Some rethinking really needs to happen with this one.

I liked this analogy. However, children learn extremely quickly the praises of their parents aren't true while many gamers never fully realize how bad they are. They either justify their losses or only play weaker opponents.

Blizzard is fully aware of the effects of their division and ranking system. The way I see it...only casuals would be turned off by a global system while almost no competitive gamer would be turned off by the lack of a global system. I hate repeating this but it's all about money. Blizzard is trying to maximize the people playing the game.

NotSupporting

Sweden1998 Posts

May 23 2010 10:51 GMT

#295

Personally I would like to see five different global ladders, one for each league. If it will remain the same as today, I think I will lose interest fairly quickly, it just feels way to isolated.

ven

Germany332 Posts

May 23 2010 11:17 GMT

#296

I have no real problem with dividing the lower ladders into leagues as long as the top ladders have a proper one. At the moment it's a little bit too obfuscating but I think it's actually more manageable to assign a denominator to certain skill ranges than having some insane number that doesn't really hold any relative value anymore as soon as you hit the 4-digit mark. Look at iCCup for example. Most players will identify with their ladder rank and maybe their points but not their ladder position. The same thing could be done here. Add a few more leagues, get rid of the divisions in the top league and you're all set.

Actually they already had a system exactly like that and - except for the smurfers which wouldn't be a problem anymore - it worked wonderfully.
Warcraft 3's ladder only had the top 1000 players in it and that was far more than enough to hold everyone important. Back in 2005 or so before Blizzard screwed it up in an attempt to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place and levels still meant something the players who weren't in the top 150 or something like that also just compared each other via their ladder levels and everyone was happy.

Mikami_

Estonia274 Posts

May 23 2010 11:53 GMT

#297

/signed

Gibybo

United States229 Posts

May 23 2010 12:12 GMT

#298

On May 23 2010 19:49 omg.deus wrote:

Show nested quote +

while almost no competitive gamer would be turned off by the lack of a global system.

Really? Have you seen this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126767 ?

Jayde

Marshall Islands104 Posts

May 23 2010 13:25 GMT

#299

Wow, totally amazing. Fantastic work Gibybo, both for creating what the fans want and for making such a slick site while you were at it

How could I have missed this? I don't know...

PS I was pleased to see how many people from teamliquid were ranked so high. Jinro being 24th in all of Europe is awesome!

AyJay

1515 Posts

May 23 2010 13:33 GMT

#300

On May 23 2010 20:53 Mikami_ wrote:
/signed

Looks like we've...

*puts on sunglasses*

got a petition thread

NOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

But on serious note stop with /signed posts, be more constructive

Blizzard said that ranking system like in WC3 only served people who got mad skills as unskilled players didn't wanted to see themselves ranked 60000-something

I agree, but not putting this kind of function is also bad imo.