EPTPatch 13 Discussion - Page 21
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
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roark
United States187 Posts
Targets a single enemy structure which cannot train units or research upgrades for 30 seconds You can't even use this ability in the way we have been debating for last 2 pages. Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&sid=5000 | ||
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hzhao
China75 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:38 Attica wrote: "The Ultralisk can now ignore Force Fields and with the Infestor’s Frenzy ability he can ignore all of the ways that the enemy could slow or disable him." Do they even know their own game? Ultralisks couldn't be slowed by marauders anyway. I think this patch looks good for zerg. I also think a lot of you are underestimating the power of frenzy. 25 energy isn't that much and having 2 infestors with 100 energy can frenzy 8 units. 8 units dealing 25% more dmg for 30 seconds could certainly turn the tide of a game. Zerg can slow them | ||
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Attica
United States277 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:36 xnub wrote: Ugggg this is going to suck for PF now that all army have atleast 1 overseer with them. : ( knocks that out like all the time GG PF : ( Broodlord + 25 % more dmg go go lol inferstor broodlords RAWR lol funny stuff will be cool. It doesn't say anything about disabling static defense usage. I think it only stop production and research now. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:38 iggyfisk wrote: Twenty spacebux this will not work out as dramatically in practice as I'm sure it is in your head I'm not saying it's a game-winning maneuver; it's just an example of what can be done with Contaminate. Of course, it could have been done before with Corruptors, but that required and additional tech-building, so it wasn't as common. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:39 KsBerzerk wrote: I'm afraid of mass frenzy on ultralisks >< Then you march in with your army and smash them to pieces. The end.  | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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graphene
Finland211 Posts
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
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iggyfisk
Sweden212 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:40 roark wrote: We all just got trolled by blizzard. You can't even use this ability in the way we have been debating for last 2 pages. Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&sid=5000 I think that's exactly what we thought it was?? | ||
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roark
United States187 Posts
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Soulous
United States133 Posts
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MasterAsia
United States170 Posts
Recall that in SC1, the ultralisk only does 20 damage (+15% each attack upgrade)/ 15 cd. The zergling does 5 damage (+20% each attack upgrade) / 6 cd. The DPS of one zergling is approximately 62.5% of the DPS of one Ultralisk. The 3/5 ultralisk takes 134 shoots by 3/3 marine, while 3/3 zergling takes 7 shoots to die. The A/D ratio of zergling is 62.5% * 134/7 = 12 times the A/D ratio of ultralisk. It is so huge. That is what makes it the best combination for zerg. Ultralisks take the damage, zerglings make the damage. Now see what we got: ultralisks are slower - they are behind zerglings and will be unable to take the damage; ultralisk hp nerf - they are unwilling to take the damagel; ultralisk slash damage + damage buff - they are more willing to make the damage. Are they still ultralisks? | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:40 roark wrote: We all just got trolled by blizzard. You can't even use this ability in the way we have been debating for last 2 pages. Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&sid=5000 eh.. how the theorycrafting don't work ? we talk about stoping robo production or templar archive reshearch | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:41 roark wrote: Only it can't, reads my post above. Contaminate only affects buildings that cannot produce units or research upgrades. Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&sid=5000 What would you use it on then? That's retarded. It's clearly just worded in an awkward way, why would you want to shut down a building that doesn't do anything? The only thing useful would be to use it on a cannon. | ||
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Drk_ItachiX
Japan113 Posts
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hzhao
China75 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:41 roark wrote: Only it can't, reads my post above. Contaminate only affects buildings that cannot produce units or research upgrades. Source: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23094049316&sid=5000 you read wrong. otherwise, why use it. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:32 KhAlleB wrote: ok with what will you kill the OS if you army get kill by the fight just bfr ? nothing obviously but that's like saying, for example, 'i just lost my entire army so what do i defend this thor drop/viking harrass/etc etc etc with'... there's situations you can abuse. you need to find ways not to get stuck in those corners cos there's always gonna be abilities that are super strong in certain situations. that doesn't mean you can't. try putting like one cannon inbetween the blind spot at the back of your base and your production line. i don't even move my overseer in to drop a changeling if there's a cannon cos it alerts them to my overseer. i don't want them to know the changeling is there until my overseer has moved a decent ways away. if they find out where my overseer has been hiding, one phoenix can hunt it down. and like i said, you can't ignore the fact that losing an overseer is a big deal for the zerg. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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