Theres the typical baneling all in, 14 gas 13 pool drones to 15, ovie, pump lings, 22 bane nest, first 100 gas is ling speed, morph banes at 26 food, bust in. I'm sure you could adjust it to not be so all-iny, just pump more drones after 15 and add in an expo after (or before) the bane nest.

afiddy

Canada108 Posts

May 14 2010 01:01 GMT

#1085

I really think that if they are going to keep this change, that they should put the armor back to 2 at least.

Grobyc

Canada18410 Posts

May 14 2010 01:03 GMT

#1086

the vortex and forcefield thing seems pretty random to me, but the roach's supply change is massive for zerg. I've lost a lost of 2v2 from fast zealot/roach pushes, so hopefully that won't be as hard to deal with now.

Chuiu

3470 Posts

May 14 2010 01:03 GMT

#1087

TBH, I agree with the Zerg nerf to roaches. But I wanted roaches at 2 supply a long time ago when they were a lot stronger, now its just overkill to hit them that hard. They need a slight buff again, something like -10 hp, +1 armor and attack.

fabiano

Brazil4644 Posts

May 14 2010 01:03 GMT

#1088

Anyone else crashing more often after this patch? I just tried to play 3 games and crashed randomly every sigle one :/

danl9rm

United States3111 Posts

May 14 2010 01:03 GMT

#1089

On May 14 2010 03:02 FrozenArbiter wrote:

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Great, the race supposed to be all about overwhelming numbers will now have smaller armies than Terran.

this is the part that makes me sad

iEchoic

United States1776 Posts

May 14 2010 01:05 GMT

#1090

Maybe it's not the race but the players? -.-

Read my next post... when demuslim and nazgul switched of pvt the terran lost every single time.

fathead

United States158 Posts

May 14 2010 01:08 GMT

#1091

On May 14 2010 09:31 Bibdy wrote:

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Suit yourself. Enjoy getting run over by Speedlots until you remember what Roaches are for.

4 speed lings. 2 supply. Beat 1 roach (2 supply) with 3 lings left over on average. Don't believe me? try it for your self.

Also 3 lings beats one roach.

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

May 14 2010 01:08 GMT

#1092

I'm kinda torn on the roach change. As a zerg, I have to admit spamming roaches did make things a little boring. I didn't feel like I could play each matchup optimally without building roaches. The change was maybe a good thing, but I don't feel they compensated by giving us any alternatives.

Thank god they're resetting soon, perfect opportunity to switch races.

Tristan

Canada566 Posts

May 14 2010 01:11 GMT

#1093

you will be missed little guy

tyCe

Australia2542 Posts

May 14 2010 01:12 GMT

#1094

Not too happy about the forge build time nerf. Fast expansions will be almost impossible now. Seriously, I think if someone manages to lose to a cannon rush, they deserve it and should take the humiliation as a lesson for the importance of scouting. Blizzard needs to stop trying so hard to remove every possible cheese in the game because it's killing player creativity and the importance of good response/decision-making.

iEchoic

United States1776 Posts

May 14 2010 01:13 GMT

#1095

4 speed lings. 2 supply. Beat 1 roach (2 supply) with 3 lings left over on average. Don't believe me? try it for your self.

Also 3 lings beats one roach.

2 lings beat one marine! That must mean that lings counter marines!

Stupid.

diggurd

Norway346 Posts

May 14 2010 01:15 GMT

#1096

what about giving ultralisk a leap from burrow ability. and archon could mine like a bad mule and go through units if you click a mineral. :D

Rorschach

United States623 Posts

May 14 2010 01:23 GMT

#1097

Any unpublished changes?

Ampere

United States27 Posts

May 14 2010 01:28 GMT

#1098

On May 14 2010 10:03 Grobyc wrote:
the vortex and forcefield thing seems pretty random to me, but the roach's supply change is massive for zerg. I've lost a lost of 2v2 from fast zealot/roach pushes, so hopefully that won't be as hard to deal with now.

There was another video of this that I saw, but this is the only one I could find:

That's why they made vortex get rid of forcefields =p

fathead

United States158 Posts

May 14 2010 01:31 GMT

#1099

On May 14 2010 10:13 iEchoic wrote:

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2 lings beat one marine! That must mean that lings counter marines!

Stupid.

Actually roaches depreciate in value the more you make.

So 1 zel beats 1 roach. But 2 zel beats 2 roachs even easier. 6 zel beats 6 roach even easier ect. Assuming you are 'a' moving of course. Go try it out, it's true.