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Neural parasite exploit in 2v2

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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 16:27:16
May 13 2010 16:11 GMT
#1
It turns out that you can capture your teammate's units using the neural parasite in 2v2.

Units currently do not automatically target any NP-ed units at all, even if the unit was not originally friendly.

This means that you can, for example, NP some of your ally's units to sneak up and kill enemy sieged tanks - the tanks will not attack approaching NP-ed units unless manually ordered to.

(Edited for clarity)
AnodyneSea
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Jamaica757 Posts
May 13 2010 16:20 GMT
#2
I don't quite understand what you're saying.

You can neural parasite you're teammates units and the enemy units won't attack them?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#3
It'll work just like changeling - You need to order units to shoot unit, if not they will just ignore it
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
May 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#4
I think he means, you NP your friends units, walk them into tank range and the tanks wont attk.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 13 2010 16:23 GMT
#5
Neural parasiting a friendly Mothership would be pretty handy.
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
May 13 2010 16:25 GMT
#6
I don't think this advantage is worth 2 fungal growths.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
May 13 2010 16:26 GMT
#7
it would be awesome for taking out an opponent's tank line with your allies tanks. NP some tanks just out of range of the opponents', then roll up a bit, siege, and boom
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
May 13 2010 16:30 GMT
#8
On May 14 2010 01:25 AssuredVacancy wrote:
I don't think this advantage is worth 2 fungal growths.


I agree, the example of breaking tank lines is the only good use I could think of. But still this feels wrong.
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
May 13 2010 16:30 GMT
#9
The "is not auto attacked by ennemi units" part is not a bug. NP would be an equivalent to instant kill vs a+click. Developers let the player make the choice between killing his own unit or ignoring it and kill the infestor.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 16:35:24
May 13 2010 16:34 GMT
#10
On May 14 2010 01:30 HubertFelix wrote:
The "is not auto attacked by ennemi units" part is not a bug. NP would be an equivalent to instant kill vs a+click. Developers let the player make the choice between killing his own unit or ignoring it and kill the infestor.

i think you should re-read the OP. the potential bug in question is when you NP your allies' unit, and your opponents units are not auto-firing
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
May 13 2010 16:36 GMT
#11
On May 14 2010 01:30 HubertFelix wrote:
The "is not auto attacked by ennemi units" part is not a bug. NP would be an equivalent to instant kill vs a+click. Developers let the player make the choice between killing his own unit or ignoring it and kill the infestor.


The NP'd unit in this case was never friendly - it is one of the enemy team's units - so there is no reason you would not want to kill it
Frost.stropheum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States71 Posts
May 13 2010 16:37 GMT
#12
They're probably just going to patch it so you can't NP your ally's units, since he/she can give you control anyway, it makes no sense in being in the game, then bug gone.
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Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 13 2010 16:40 GMT
#13
On May 14 2010 01:30 HubertFelix wrote:
The "is not auto attacked by ennemi units" part is not a bug. NP would be an equivalent to instant kill vs a+click. Developers let the player make the choice between killing his own unit or ignoring it and kill the infestor.

I don't think you understand the OP. He is saying, if you NP an allie's unit, it now will not be autotargeted by enemy units.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
May 13 2010 16:51 GMT
#14
This is why i said "part", of course NP an ally unit is a bug

I think the fact it is not auto attacked is not a bug
codewarrior
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
June 05 2010 05:23 GMT
#15
I just discovered this on my own. I thought about using it to relieve an ally of the supply cap, so they could build another 5 Carriers and a Mothership or so.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
June 05 2010 05:24 GMT
#16
Bug report forum imo.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
June 05 2010 05:31 GMT
#17
Now the question is can you target your own units and do the same thing?
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hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
June 05 2010 05:36 GMT
#18
On June 05 2010 14:31 STS17 wrote:
Now the question is can you target your own units and do the same thing?


I don't think you can target your own units in the first place.
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
June 05 2010 05:40 GMT
#19
Hehe, I can see some fun coming from this. Hopefully one of my Zerg friends will test this out with me tomorrow.
Life is Good.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 05 2010 05:44 GMT
#20
you can do this in 1v1 if you steal a thor reinforcing a siege line and walk the thor into range and take out tanks.
Fitz
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada77 Posts
June 05 2010 05:45 GMT
#21

I just discovered this on my own. I thought about using it to relieve an ally of the supply cap, so they could build another 5 Carriers and a Mothership or so.


hmm, how about NP allied mothership and start building an other ?, rinse and repeat when second MS comes out to progressively get a motherships army ?
lol
EvilMaishidon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
June 05 2010 06:27 GMT
#22
Play ZPv?? or ZTv??
get infestors
NP allies worker
Build up a 300/300 army
??????
profit

any questions?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 05 2010 06:30 GMT
#23
On June 05 2010 15:27 used man wrote:
Play ZPv?? or ZTv??
get infestors
NP allies worker
Build up a 300/300 army
??????
profit

any questions?

You don't get an extra set of supply with NP-ed units, IIRC.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
June 05 2010 06:36 GMT
#24
On June 05 2010 15:30 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 15:27 used man wrote:
Play ZPv?? or ZTv??
get infestors
NP allies worker
Build up a 300/300 army
??????
profit

any questions?

You don't get an extra set of supply with NP-ed units, IIRC.

But you can NP even if you're at 200/200 right?

Does the allies supply count go lower when you do the neural parasite?

If so, you could start mass neural parasiting every unit of his and so he can go over 200/200 when you stop the neural parasites. It could be a fun mechanic if it works.
EvilMaishidon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
June 05 2010 06:50 GMT
#25
dang, i thought it was like SC1. Should of tested before i talked, sorry.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 05 2010 07:12 GMT
#26
Interesting. Good find.
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SpiderWaffle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States125 Posts
June 05 2010 07:59 GMT
#27
Would be useful on maps like zero clutter, by getting max army of infesters then NPing a bunch of big units so your effective army would be like 800 supply. Or could double all your allies armies.
http://students.washington.edu/blakep/SCBW/replays/
SpiderWaffle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States125 Posts
June 05 2010 18:54 GMT
#28
Would be useful on maps like zero clutter, by getting max army of infesters then NPing a bunch of big units so your effective army would be like 800 supply. Or could double all your allies armies.
http://students.washington.edu/blakep/SCBW/replays/
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
June 05 2010 18:57 GMT
#29
On June 05 2010 15:36 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 15:30 TheYango wrote:
On June 05 2010 15:27 used man wrote:
Play ZPv?? or ZTv??
get infestors
NP allies worker
Build up a 300/300 army
??????
profit

any questions?

You don't get an extra set of supply with NP-ed units, IIRC.

But you can NP even if you're at 200/200 right?

Does the allies supply count go lower when you do the neural parasite?

If so, you could start mass neural parasiting every unit of his and so he can go over 200/200 when you stop the neural parasites. It could be a fun mechanic if it works.


No their supply is still used up when you steal the unit. Effectively if you had say 12 Infestors and they stole 12 Thors, that's 72 supply that would be caught up for the Terran.
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