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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 26 2012 13:43 GMT
#2841
sounds so awesome i hope my processor can manage the streaming ^^
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
July 26 2012 13:43 GMT
#2842
On July 26 2012 21:42 Swwww wrote:
Awesome! This might just be the longest Op in whole of TL

Yeah it's pretty insane what this program can do. So many functions. :D

@Dakota_Fanning
Are you working on that project alone and do you get something out of it other than some donations?
Cj hero | Zest
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
July 26 2012 13:55 GMT
#2843
On July 26 2012 22:43 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 21:42 Swwww wrote:
Awesome! This might just be the longest Op in whole of TL

Yeah it's pretty insane what this program can do. So many functions. :D

@Dakota_Fanning
Are you working on that project alone and do you get something out of it other than some donations?

I'm working on it alone, and no, I don't get anything else for it (except some rare donations).
https://repmastered.icza.net
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
July 26 2012 14:19 GMT
#2844
Hi sorry but i'm not a huge computer nerd and i was wondering what's the difference between your streaming app and using justin tv and xsplit for example
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
July 26 2012 14:30 GMT
#2845
On July 26 2012 23:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Hi sorry but i'm not a huge computer nerd and i was wondering what's the difference between your streaming app and using justin tv and xsplit for example

Read this page, it shall tell you everything: Sc2gears Private Video Streaming

In short: Sc2gears broadcasts the stream to all clients who can view your stream from a browser. You have full control over the streaming parameters. The stream web page does not require any plugins, clients can even view the stream from cell phones.

In case of justin tv and xsplit you have to register in a central service, you have to download and install a streaming client software which sends the stream to their central servers which are responsible to broadcast the stream to clients, meanwhile placing ads on it, requiring subscriptions etc. Their streaming web page usually requires a plugin (like Flash), so their use is limited.
https://repmastered.icza.net
kerblaster
Profile Joined April 2012
6 Posts
July 26 2012 15:05 GMT
#2846
I get like 30 frames ingame when I stream with xsplit. Does this have any chance to increase frames while streaming as compared to xsplit?
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
July 26 2012 15:18 GMT
#2847
This is really cool, and I'm quite amazed by what you're doing.

I'm curious though, why is it you're implementing a Streaming feature? It could really change things, but isn't this the sort of project that would require more resources than just a (albeit quite skilled) one-man-team? Could you explain what your reasoning for this is, and how you would reply to the claim "you're looking to challenge the fully-functional, satisfactory services provided by other free streaming providers"?
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Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
July 26 2012 16:47 GMT
#2848
On July 27 2012 00:05 kerblaster wrote:
I get like 30 frames ingame when I stream with xsplit. Does this have any chance to increase frames while streaming as compared to xsplit?

No, probably not. Although in cases when xsplit is not able to produce 30 FPS, you can lower quality in Sc2gears to give higher FPS values...
https://repmastered.icza.net
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 17:30:08
July 26 2012 17:16 GMT
#2849
On July 26 2012 23:30 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 23:19 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Hi sorry but i'm not a huge computer nerd and i was wondering what's the difference between your streaming app and using justin tv and xsplit for example

Read this page, it shall tell you everything: Sc2gears Private Video Streaming

In short: Sc2gears broadcasts the stream to all clients who can view your stream from a browser. You have full control over the streaming parameters. The stream web page does not require any plugins, clients can even view the stream from cell phones.

In case of justin tv and xsplit you have to register in a central service, you have to download and install a streaming client software which sends the stream to their central servers which are responsible to broadcast the stream to clients, meanwhile placing ads on it, requiring subscriptions etc. Their streaming web page usually requires a plugin (like Flash), so their use is limited.


i dont get it working the streaming id is wrong even using the id from my router °_° so sad
i have to make WANIP/stream/nickpasswhateverthethingshowme ?
or did i do anything wrong
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
July 26 2012 17:36 GMT
#2850
"When Private streaming is started, your computer will broadcast the stream to all clients. I've implemented a specialized HTTP server for this purpose. Clients can view the video stream from any browser. The client interface (which is a web page) does not require any plugins (not even Flash plugin), which means clients can start viewing the stream from ANY platform, even from CELL PHONES!"

:O

I look forward to using this.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 26 2012 17:40 GMT
#2851
sry i forgot port xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
July 26 2012 19:19 GMT
#2852
On July 27 2012 00:18 bITt.mAN wrote:
This is really cool, and I'm quite amazed by what you're doing.

I'm curious though, why is it you're implementing a Streaming feature? It could really change things, but isn't this the sort of project that would require more resources than just a (albeit quite skilled) one-man-team? Could you explain what your reasoning for this is, and how you would reply to the claim "you're looking to challenge the fully-functional, satisfactory services provided by other free streaming providers"?

Those "fully-functional, satisfactory" services exist for quite some time now, yet not everyone who would like to stream uses them...
They are often not trivial to setup and use. The streaming feature in Sc2gears literally can be started with one click. Another reason can be not everyone wants to run 10 supplementary software while playing Starcraft II. Also many of those cannot be viewed on all platforms (like cell phones). Sc2gears streaming solves this problem.

This streaming feature does not want to be a replacement or a contender to the streaming services, as this is unique and different in many aspects. Sc2gears streaming will never replace a service where there are many (tens, hundreds or thousands of) clients, since in this case the streaming server is your computer. This is more like a private video streaming feature (exactly what its name states) to share your screen or activity with your friend(s).
If you want to show something to your friend, let's say how to setup Sc2gears or how to analyze your games, you would not register on twitch and download their client, install it etc. just so you can show your live action to your friend. With Sc2gears, you just click once, send the link to your friend, and your goal is achieved.

As to "would require more resources than just a one-man-team": I'd say Sc2gears itself (including the Sc2gears Database, Parsing service etc.) without the video streaming feature is also more than a one-man job (bigger than the feature in question), yet I think it's doing okay.
https://repmastered.icza.net
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#2853
Can you add an overlay feature?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
July 26 2012 23:56 GMT
#2854
On July 27 2012 04:56 graNite wrote:
Can you add an overlay feature?

I can, but what do you mean? Custom text? Custom image? Or just covered areas?
https://repmastered.icza.net
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 27 2012 06:18 GMT
#2855
Everything from custom text (for displaying a score) over custom image (for a new UI, or at least sponsor images) up to a webcam overlay.

thanks for everything ♥
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 27 2012 06:21 GMT
#2856
hm horrible lag or horrible quality seems 16/1 is faaar to worse upload xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
July 27 2012 06:57 GMT
#2857
The amount of work done on this program is just completly insane, amazing job really.
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
July 27 2012 12:08 GMT
#2858
On July 27 2012 15:21 CoR wrote:
hm horrible lag or horrible quality seems 16/1 is faaar to worse upload xD

The video encoding is optimized for pictures and not for text. So if you stream your OS windows, you might find a certain video size+image quality bad, but if you stream an SC2 game or a movie with the same parameters, you will find it a lot less disturbing.
https://repmastered.icza.net
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
July 28 2012 04:06 GMT
#2859
I wonder how widespread this program is. You think KeSPA teams use it to quickly analyze their games to decrease the time it would take to improve? Are there any equalivalents to this in places where TL is not as well know?

Dakota should be hired by Blizzard to get access to more game info and really make it the official analyzing tool. Or at least give Dakota a feat of strength achievement. Maybe even a portrait of Dakota Fanning in a Ghost outfit.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 28 2012 05:34 GMT
#2860
On July 28 2012 13:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
I wonder how widespread this program is. You think KeSPA teams use it to quickly analyze their games to decrease the time it would take to improve? Are there any equalivalents to this in places where TL is not as well know?

Dakota should be hired by Blizzard to get access to more game info and really make it the official analyzing tool. Or at least give Dakota a feat of strength achievement. Maybe even a portrait of Dakota Fanning in a Ghost outfit.


He already has a Liquid Star next to his name.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
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