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CruiseR
Poland4013 Posts
On July 25 2012 22:05 Dakota_Fanning wrote:Sc2gears 11.0 has been released with Integrated Private Video Streaming server.![[image loading]](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SPJM-yqv1OE/UA_kBHDwqBI/AAAAAAAArO8/_8J3Q1X4S7w/s730/private_video_streaming.png) Details are in the first post.
is there an FPS limit of 30? because if i set any number higher than 30, it automatically goes down to 30, and the stream isn't smooth :x
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really awesome idea with the private stream feature. When playing around with it, I notice the mouse or at least my cursor will flash. Also when looking at the stream through another pc it is really laggy. Overall awesome idea, would like to see sound and maybe a full screen functionality. Overall great job with it.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
On July 26 2012 02:26 CruiseR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 22:05 Dakota_Fanning wrote:Sc2gears 11.0 has been released with Integrated Private Video Streaming server.![[image loading]](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SPJM-yqv1OE/UA_kBHDwqBI/AAAAAAAArO8/_8J3Q1X4S7w/s730/private_video_streaming.png) Details are in the first post. is there an FPS limit of 30? because if i set any number higher than 30, it automatically goes down to 30, and the stream isn't smooth :x Yes, the valid FPS range is 1..30. If you keep your mouse on the input slider, it will display this in a tool tip. If it's not smooth with 30 FPS it's not because the FPS is too low. Most likely your computer is not capable of producing higher FPS value.
Start streaming, and Sc2gears will display the average FPS value in the Streaming Statistics table. If you change other parameters, you will get higher reachable FPS value.
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Another thing, you should definitely set up a guide(most people won't even know how to) on how to port forward. And how to allow a antivirus/local firewall to allow javaw.exe to receive incoming connections.
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Nice idea the Video Streaming. It isn't really working well for me though. My pc is pretty good, i can play sc2 on ultra without problems. If i start the stream and (with no other program open!) i get 16 fps on default settings, 7 fps on fullHD. Not sure whats the problem. My cpu is only 25% used, and my graphic card on 40% max, RAM 50%. just tested myInternet. It is very good as well: download 48.000 kbit/s, upload: 2.500 kbit/s
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CruiseR
Poland4013 Posts
On July 26 2012 04:20 OrbitalPlane wrote: Nice idea the Video Streaming. It isn't really working well for me though. My pc is pretty good, i can play sc2 on ultra without problems. If i start the stream and (with no other program open!) i get 16 fps on default settings, 7 fps on fullHD. Not sure whats the problem. My cpu is only 25% used, and my graphic card on 40% max, RAM 50%. just tested myInternet. It is very good as well: download 48.000 kbit/s, upload: 2.500 kbit/s
I had the same problem. I have a strong computer and 30mbit/2mbit internet and on 1920x1080 it produced only about 7fps which is kinda unwatchable. I tested streaming for a while on twitch(xsplit) and it was very smoothly with high fps and fullhd (on same setup and internet) I hope it can be fixed because i'm definitely looking forward to using this
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
On July 26 2012 03:12 Boblhead wrote: Another thing, you should definitely set up a guide(most people won't even know how to) on how to port forward. And how to allow a antivirus/local firewall to allow javaw.exe to receive incoming connections. That isn't really Sc2gears related, and there are many howto's on the subject on the internet... and it's really router an firewall specific... but I might put some links on the private streaming video page.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
On July 26 2012 04:20 OrbitalPlane wrote: Nice idea the Video Streaming. It isn't really working well for me though. My pc is pretty good, i can play sc2 on ultra without problems. If i start the stream and (with no other program open!) i get 16 fps on default settings, 7 fps on fullHD. Not sure whats the problem. My cpu is only 25% used, and my graphic card on 40% max, RAM 50%. just tested myInternet. It is very good as well: download 48.000 kbit/s, upload: 2.500 kbit/s
CPU is 25% used probably because you have a quad core (and 1 core is used fully). You can increase FPS if you don't stream full screen but only a custom area (let's say you cut off 100-200 pixels on each side...) and decreasing the output video size.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
On July 26 2012 04:34 CruiseR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 04:20 OrbitalPlane wrote: Nice idea the Video Streaming. It isn't really working well for me though. My pc is pretty good, i can play sc2 on ultra without problems. If i start the stream and (with no other program open!) i get 16 fps on default settings, 7 fps on fullHD. Not sure whats the problem. My cpu is only 25% used, and my graphic card on 40% max, RAM 50%. just tested myInternet. It is very good as well: download 48.000 kbit/s, upload: 2.500 kbit/s
I had the same problem. I have a strong computer and 30mbit/2mbit internet and on 1920x1080 it produced only about 7fps which is kinda unwatchable. I tested streaming for a while on twitch(xsplit) and it was very smoothly with high fps and fullhd (on same setup and internet) I hope it can be fixed because i'm definitely looking forward to using this  As I wrote in my previous post, you can increase FPS by reducing the streamed screen area (by cutting off the edges...) and by reducing the output video size.
I will try to improve performance of course. The current Private Video Streaming server is version 1.0 which is only a few days of work...
And the difference compared to xsplit is probably because xsplit captures frames on hardware level (probably from the video card memory) while Sc2gears goes through the operating system (and also on a platform independent way..), and twitch uses a flash player on client side while Sc2gears uses only basic HTML components.
Edit: ...and also in case of twitch there are central streaming servers which do the video transformation and compression while in our case Sc2gears has to do all the jobs....
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no i actually checked that aswell. Even so i have a quad core its pretty even divided between them. 1 core is on 20% 2 on 30% and 1 on 40%. I made some benchmarks (futuremark and others) one month ago when i set up my windows 7 and everything looked normal. This is still a bid strange. Maybe some others can look at their cpu load and tell me if something is wrong with my system or if the streaming system just doesn't use all available ressources.
Looking forward to the improved version btw. =)
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Hello, and thank you for all your efforts. Love your program.
Yes please please do more work on the video streaming, it's sooo cool. If you can make it multi-core that would be great. I'm pretty sure my computer can handle a higher FPS i cannot get more than 21FPS, and that's with setting the output to 320x240 (which is useless imo no offense haha)
I have an i7 920, 8GB RAM, HD 6950 etc.
This program doesn't come close to maxing out any of my hardware, it goes to 20% max.. If you need help testing let me know!!
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On July 26 2012 04:34 CruiseR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 04:20 OrbitalPlane wrote: Nice idea the Video Streaming. It isn't really working well for me though. My pc is pretty good, i can play sc2 on ultra without problems. If i start the stream and (with no other program open!) i get 16 fps on default settings, 7 fps on fullHD. Not sure whats the problem. My cpu is only 25% used, and my graphic card on 40% max, RAM 50%. just tested myInternet. It is very good as well: download 48.000 kbit/s, upload: 2.500 kbit/s
I had the same problem. I have a strong computer and 30mbit/2mbit internet and on 1920x1080 it produced only about 7fps which is kinda unwatchable. I tested streaming for a while on twitch(xsplit) and it was very smoothly with high fps and fullhd (on same setup and internet) I hope it can be fixed because i'm definitely looking forward to using this 
Your connection will bottleneck you anyway. Sure you can watch 1080 streams with ease, but to stream one you should have a solid 3-5Mbs Up. 2 is barely enough for 720p, if you could guarantee a solid 2 at all times you could have a 720p stream maybe be watchable.. Also what compression is being used will effect it. If you want a true 1080p24 with H.264 you may need most of that 30Mbs just to watch it. (This is basically what blu-ray players operate at) anyway...just saying you should maybe just try to get a solid fps at 640x480 as that's likely all your 2Mbit can really constantly deliver..
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United States33075 Posts
At this rate, SC2gears will attain selfawareness by 2014
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CruiseR
Poland4013 Posts
On July 26 2012 08:46 thurst0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 04:34 CruiseR wrote:On July 26 2012 04:20 OrbitalPlane wrote: Nice idea the Video Streaming. It isn't really working well for me though. My pc is pretty good, i can play sc2 on ultra without problems. If i start the stream and (with no other program open!) i get 16 fps on default settings, 7 fps on fullHD. Not sure whats the problem. My cpu is only 25% used, and my graphic card on 40% max, RAM 50%. just tested myInternet. It is very good as well: download 48.000 kbit/s, upload: 2.500 kbit/s
I had the same problem. I have a strong computer and 30mbit/2mbit internet and on 1920x1080 it produced only about 7fps which is kinda unwatchable. I tested streaming for a while on twitch(xsplit) and it was very smoothly with high fps and fullhd (on same setup and internet) I hope it can be fixed because i'm definitely looking forward to using this  Your connection will bottleneck you anyway. Sure you can watch 1080 streams with ease, but to stream one you should have a solid 3-5Mbs Up. 2 is barely enough for 720p, if you could guarantee a solid 2 at all times you could have a 720p stream maybe be watchable.. Also what compression is being used will effect it. If you want a true 1080p24 with H.264 you may need most of that 30Mbs just to watch it. (This is basically what blu-ray players operate at) anyway...just saying you should maybe just try to get a solid fps at 640x480 as that's likely all your 2Mbit can really constantly deliver..
I don't know much about how streaming/watching stream consumes the bandwith, but as i said i tried streaming on twitch(xsplit) with 720p and around 30-40 fps, and that was running smoothly.
edit: and yeah i know 2mbits aren't much, but here in Poland it's hard to get more, getting a symmetrical connection is almost impossible. Most ISP's offer assymetrical ones like 10/1 20/2 50/5 etc : (
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
On July 25 2012 21:27 Belial88 wrote:My screen resolution is 1280x768. This is what pop's up when I hit 'share replay': + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3kmCo.png) Then I have to click on the right (or left) edge of it and resize it to make it visible: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vvq3E.png) Then I have to resize it from the top and shrink it so it will fit on my screen, and then leftclick-hold on that top bar to drag the window up: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hXcOb.png) Can you please confirm that the fix included in the latest 11.0 release solves your problem?
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
Another tip to increase the reachable streaming FPS: if you want to stream your full screen, you can get higher FPS if you switch to a lower screen resolution (but this may not be feasible to many...).
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Got to admit that multi-core usage is important. Xsplit x264 has multi-threading built in to the encoder, but not the capture. You have to assign each process to each core to balance FPS drops. But performance still sucks.
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sc2gears won't update for me. The log file says the following:
2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Starting Sc2gears Updater 1.3.1 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Available latest version: 11.0 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Preparing for update... 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Downloading archive... 2012-07-26 01:32:31 - Failed to download archive. java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403 for URL: [url=http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip]http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip[/url] at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown Source) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection$6.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getChainedException(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.startUpdate(Updater.java:383) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.<init>(Updater.java:214) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.main(Updater.java:164) Caused by: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403 for URL: [url=http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip]http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip[/url] at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getHeaderField(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLConnection.getHeaderFieldInt(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLConnection.getContentLength(Unknown Source) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.startUpdate(Updater.java:375) ... 2 more 2012-07-26 01:32:31 - Update FAILED! Check the log file for details.
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Awesome! This might just be the longest Op in whole of TL
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2335 Posts
On July 26 2012 21:34 netherh wrote:sc2gears won't update for me. The log file says the following: + Show Spoiler + 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Starting Sc2gears Updater 1.3.1 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Available latest version: 11.0 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Preparing for update... 2012-07-26 01:32:28 - Downloading archive... 2012-07-26 01:32:31 - Failed to download archive. java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403 for URL: [url=http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip]http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip[/url] at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown Source) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection$6.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getChainedException(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.startUpdate(Updater.java:383) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.<init>(Updater.java:214) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.main(Updater.java:164) Caused by: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403 for URL: [url=http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip]http://199.91.153.249/gy9gl244lwug/0wnozn1rbnaodch/Sc2gears-11.0.zip[/url] at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getHeaderField(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLConnection.getHeaderFieldInt(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLConnection.getContentLength(Unknown Source) at hu.belicza.andras.sc2gearsupdater.Updater.startUpdate(Updater.java:375) ... 2 more 2012-07-26 01:32:31 - Update FAILED! Check the log file for details.
Looks like a simple download server error. Try again, it should work.
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