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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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CowGoMoo
United States428 Posts
Thinks makes me want to offer private lessons -- you can sleep on my roommates couch and eat their food and I'll teach you SC2 stuff. (not serious) | ||
KwarK
United States41950 Posts
On May 11 2010 06:00 Rabbet wrote: $250? Are you kids serious about building a business or not? Don't listen to the criticism about having a high price, you have to relate your price to the value and $250 translates to very little value. I don't get off the couch for $250, let alone have strangers come to sleep in my house, eat my food and give away valuable knowledge. A market is a market, and I do believe there is a market for your services just like there is a market for mine. If this is just a hobby for you, I understand. If it is just a hobby you are better off just giving the spots away, making people pay for their own meals and having fun with it - because $2000 split between you all is just beans, especially considering your spending a week of your lives to fulfill the program. You are progamers and I know you to be good at what you do, but if you want some serious business advice PM me and I'll tell you what I think would make your business work. lol Find a guy willing to pay more and I'm sure they'll thank you for it. When most their potential clients are college kids with more important things to spend money on I think $250 is somewhat more realistic. But hey, maybe you know better. Who would be willing to offer $2000 for a spot? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On May 11 2010 03:02 KwarK wrote: 100% serious. I wanna do random shit this summer but I'm skint. Apparently being good at sc2 is a marketable skill so I thought I'd put it out there. hahaha I think I would actually do this if I was still living by myself. But now I think it would be a bit weird if I told my flat mates "oh yeah btw. this dude from the UK is coming tomorrow to teach me sc2 for some days lulz"  Anyways, people need to stop bitching, 250$ certainly seems like a fair price And rofl at the "oohhh these people arent that good" Thats like saying "Why would I take guitar lessons from YOU, shitty Joe Satriani?! Yngwie Malmsteen is a way better guitar player." | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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Rabbet
Canada404 Posts
On May 11 2010 06:07 RANDOMCL wrote: Holy internet, batman. Let me guess, you're also a lawyer magician superhero? I'm an HVAC technician. | ||
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Sky.Technique
United States271 Posts
On May 11 2010 04:36 Chrispy wrote: Anyhow, besides Incontrol's obligatory self contradiction this actually sounds really neat and if anyone's willing to pay for it I bet it would be a hell of a fun experience. And go Kwark! Travel the world, living a simple and modest life free of all possessions except pizza and beer while teaching others the way of the Beta. they said they are the best in the USA, not in the entire beta. please read | ||
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KwarK
United States41950 Posts
On May 11 2010 06:14 unkkz wrote: This would be so cool and awesome and just freaking awesome to go to, but flying over to the states, with a PC would cost like a bazillion dollars (If only there were some way it could come to you for the price of a return plane ticket from the UK and food. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
It is somewhat related to guitar lessons I suppose, and I can tell you all that when I was in college for music, I had to pay $50 for an hour lesson, and this wasnt from guys like Satriani or whatever, just the top Jazz guitarists in eastern Canada (so its comparable to how InControl would be to the US). So $250 for a week is not bad at all. Finding people who are willing to pay any money at all for SC training is the hard part, its not like theres really a chance they can become the next Nony or Idra, and anyone who already has RTS talent probably understands that going there and paying money wont help them to get much better than if they just spent 11 hours a day playing on ladder/vs top players. | ||
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VarsityUser
United States84 Posts
W/e 250 is worth it if u don't like training alone. | ||
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disco
Netherlands1667 Posts
On May 11 2010 06:26 VarsityUser wrote: Seems like theres a bunch of players in USA better than these 5.. huk , telecom 2-0'd inc, cauthon, many others.. W/e 250 is worth it if u don't like training alone. 250 is definitely worth it if it includes a man hug from Inc. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
It'd be cool to get something going on there, like a house to just practice all day with eachother, not a "pay us money and we'll show you the basics" program.. It could really bolster their play. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
I hope the the beta duration issues work itself out and that everyone involved has a really good time when it does happen. I can vouch for the fact all these guys are fun to be around and of course skilled gamers. <3 | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On May 10 2010 21:35 AmstAff wrote: incontroll is really trying to make money by doing nothing. lets see how many idiots he will find. "The first day of training, the coaches will go over with each individual the personal goals they want to accomplish the next three days. Better Macro? Micro? Multi-tasking?" seriously... i dont know what to say, this is just so... All these "video gaming coaching" stuff is always a scheme. This is like a "pretend you are good at SC2" fantasy camp. | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On May 11 2010 00:56 Sent wrote: In what other discipline can you NOT learn something from someone better than you? People are just not used to seeing coaching in such a new medium. If I told you I was going to tennis camp with Blake for 3 days you wouldn't bat an eye. see, theres a physical component there, where it makes sense for you to travel there. What can they do here that they couldn't just tell you online. Practice games? Scrims? Telling you to macro? A sucker is born every minute though | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On May 11 2010 02:51 Precipice wrote: First off, I am interested to see how this works out for you guys. I think it's a reasonably neat idea, and perhaps foreshadowing of more and longer versions of the same thing. One thing that does slightly concern me, though we're talking about 18 year olds (whether or not that means adults, I don't know), is the influence that you guys can have over trainees. Essentially, I'll be interested in seeing how exactly you go about coaching various people. There are very subtle cues that you guys can give off that could impact someone in a very negative way (given the context of them respecting you enough to come to your camp). That said, if performed effectively, I can see this as a powerful utility for some players. Another thing that does surprise me is that 8:30-11:30 is not scheduled time too, going for the full scale progamer house experience. I really think you might have some potential in a 3 day span if you tried to cram *more* of the time with playing than the standard house schedule (which I think is 9 hours) until the last day where people play less. 1. people would develop stamina and have experience playing a LOT of games. 2. When people leave that tournament, they're going to want to go home and keep practicing. idk, I've got about 8 other ideas, but, this is your thing Good luck I'm pretty sure thats because even the coaches don't want to spend all day doing =p | ||
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theBullFrog
United States515 Posts
jk i'm kinda interested in this. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On May 11 2010 06:41 PanzerDragoon wrote: see, theres a physical component there, where it makes sense for you to travel there. What can they do here that they couldn't just tell you online. Practice games? Scrims? Telling you to macro? A sucker is born every minute though A lot of people could figure most things out for themselves. However, I have some friends that I play with that I have given a TON of advice to. They would never have gotten to the level they are at now for months without somebody helping them. People that can't make it to platinum are definitely missing something that could be figured out with a few days at gosu camp. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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Niten
United States598 Posts
To respond to an earlier critique, maybe EG could write out / make videos for all the content they want to share... but the advantage, I assume, of having everybody there is that the coaches can physically see what you do, how you do it, etc., and from that make valuable coaching advice specifically tailored to the trainee. I suppose they could sorta do the same thing with webcams, but then they wouldn't get the advantage of the multiple trainees meeting and learning from each other. This sort of vertical and horizontal teaching is really very common, I think. It is what you can't get from general online vids. I wish GosuCoaching all the best on their first camp  | ||
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