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johnnybrav0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States61 Posts
May 07 2010 07:28 GMT
#721
On May 07 2010 15:56 Kyuki wrote:I'm missing a tinkering with Force Field though, I just think it lasts too long and is abit too cheap to cast.
I see what you're saying, but I was playing as Toss earlier, and really had to think twice about the number of Sentries I warped in due to the damage reduction. Less Sentries=Less FF.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
May 07 2010 07:28 GMT
#722
Phoenix and ultra buffs go in the right direction. I don't really understand the broodlord nerf, nobody used them anyway. As a Terran I've never seen one BL in approx 15/20 games vs zerg.
I do not feel strike cannons were overpowered at all, I wonder why there's such a huge nerf.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
May 07 2010 07:31 GMT
#723
when i click starcraft 2 beta, the patch download screen appears and quickly goes away again.. and nothing happens...
someone the same problem or heard of it?
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
May 07 2010 07:33 GMT
#724
On May 07 2010 16:28 johnnybrav0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 15:56 Kyuki wrote:I'm missing a tinkering with Force Field though, I just think it lasts too long and is abit too cheap to cast.
I see what you're saying, but I was playing as Toss earlier, and really had to think twice about the number of Sentries I warped in due to the damage reduction. Less Sentries=Less FF.

I dig that, but I really think 4 warpgate pushes will still dump alot of gas into sentries since having the choice to just cut the opponents army in half is way more valuable than getting abit more DPS out on the field.

Regardless it'll be interesting to follow the development from here.
Mada Mada Dane
Karas
Profile Joined March 2010
United States230 Posts
May 07 2010 07:36 GMT
#725
The only change I really question is the neural parasite change...not because I don't necessarily agree with it, but because the 9 range NP has only be around a very short time.

Its getting some solid use right now, but players are only beginning to utilize it fully/counter it. I don't think its been enough time to say it needs a amount of nerfing (and yes while being able to get air units is nice....a big cost and build time and energy cost is overall a nerf to me).
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
May 07 2010 07:40 GMT
#726
good phoenix buff.

mutas was a pain in the ass for toss, and later in the game just impossible to beat
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
May 07 2010 07:41 GMT
#727
I'm curious. Does anyone know what happens if your neural parasite a medivac with units in it?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 07 2010 07:43 GMT
#728
On May 07 2010 16:27 Glider wrote:
My game now hangs after exiting B.net, anyone else have same problem?


i get it too :<
Hates Fun🤔
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
May 07 2010 07:58 GMT
#729
On May 07 2010 16:41 QueueQueue wrote:
I'm curious. Does anyone know what happens if your neural parasite a medivac with units in it?


During the previous patch were it was possible to NP flying units, the units in the medivac are killed when you parasite the unit.

So NP could (theorycraft) be a useful drop-protection.
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 08:27:45
May 07 2010 08:27 GMT
#730
is there any list of ninja changes that are not in the official patch notes?
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
griff
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands26 Posts
May 07 2010 08:56 GMT
#731
The game is 100% smooth again for me now, after the last patch it sorta felt a bit choppy (not like big freeze lag but just choppy).

I might be imagining things (or this might be related to the choppy part), but the game also feels a little bit faster.
Anyone else noticed this?
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
May 07 2010 08:58 GMT
#732
Root takes way too long. I can understand 6 being too fast, but doubling the time makes it very very slow. Maybe 9 would be better?

I've been having problems with the game crashing when I try to exit the game.
Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
May 07 2010 09:03 GMT
#733
On May 07 2010 16:43 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 16:27 Glider wrote:
My game now hangs after exiting B.net, anyone else have same problem?


i get it too :<

me too, every single time
and the last time ctrl+alt+del didn't work, had to hardreset my pc. Hoping for hotfix soon.
BroodWar forever
Narf
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom6 Posts
May 07 2010 09:08 GMT
#734
I don't get why people are so outraged by the pheonix change, sure it doesnt take a lot of apm to counter mutas, but they're _supposed_ to counter mutas. Personally I don't think it should require an apm high enough to properly do the "move shot" in order for the unit to perform it's role properly. If both players autoattack mutas still have the advantage. SC2 is not SC1, if people want to use their crazy high apm to it's fullest they'll still find a way to do it, but the average joe still needs their units to perform their roles properly without delving into the more advanced unit control.

And no, it does not mean that mutas are useless now vs phoenix, one infestor with fungal growth and all that "insane kiting" goes out the window. Corruptor range is also 2 greater than that of the phoenix and counts as armoured, but god forbid zerg players would have to use their dedicated air-air unit to gain air superiority against another dedicated air-air unit. All this does is force players to get a more diverse army, rather than mass muta and own the skies vs protoss.

As for the corruption ability, I think it's a great change. The unit gets bonus damage vs massive units and their ability makes them perform their role that much better, instead of a gimmicky ability of dubious usefulness. It'll also make dealing with thors, ultras and colossus that much easier, who cares if it does nothing vs something like mass roach/hydra, if you counter that with corruptors you're doing it wrong anyway.
When in doubt, use more nukes.
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
May 07 2010 09:14 GMT
#735
anyone tested the new ravens yet? how do they fare now, without a mana reduction those mines are still pretty expensive, when does one decide to use them?
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
May 07 2010 09:17 GMT
#736
pheonix became ridiculously strong, you can't chase it with mutas? That's a bit too much lol.

I think they are nerfing zerg too early, no one even learned how to properly play tvz/pvz yet. Wait until you see some decent terran mech vs z (it's coming)
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
May 07 2010 09:29 GMT
#737
On May 07 2010 09:07 kino.heezy wrote:
f10-s to surrender doesn't work

hotkey is changed to n ... it should read SurreNder lol
www.root-gaming.com
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
May 07 2010 09:29 GMT
#738
On May 07 2010 18:17 condoriano wrote:
pheonix became ridiculously strong, you can't chase it with mutas? That's a bit too much lol.

I think they are nerfing zerg too early, no one even learned how to properly play tvz/pvz yet. Wait until you see some decent terran mech vs z (it's coming)


you are wrong, mech just doesnt work vs zerg... all they have to do is mass roaches
www.root-gaming.com
Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 09:42:26
May 07 2010 09:40 GMT
#739
After patch I can't exit beta normally, it freezes and i have to restart, quite annoying.... Anyone having this problem...?
About patch... I as protoss can't do anything vs terran, 4 marauders 2 marines (with stim) and 2 medivacs kill 10 stalkers and colossus... ridiculous... colossus nerf wasn't necessary all I can do vs M&M now is void ray yeeey
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 07 2010 09:43 GMT
#740
did they increase the gamespeed?
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
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