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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 06 2010 23:08 GMT
#561
On May 07 2010 08:06 wintergt wrote:
I like a lot of these changes but what?
- crappy thor ability noone uses, now has to be researched?
- seeker missile who noone was using anymore, big nerf.. why?
- ultras gonna be yummy!

I assume you're nowhere near top 20 platinum...

Everyone's using it there.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 06 2010 23:08 GMT
#562
Is it just in my head, or is the Raven slightly faster (maybe just faster acceleration)?

Also, I just played a test game on US servers without battleping, and got WAY better lag than I normally do, like barely noticeable.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
May 06 2010 23:09 GMT
#563
On May 07 2010 07:44 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 07:41 Twitchzor wrote:
On May 07 2010 07:37 lololol wrote:
Corruptors now own Phoenixes even worse, they got a 2 damage buff, and they were already superior. Even with sentry shield added a Phoenix will lose to a Corruptor.

You just got an actual moving attack and you're still whining. Considering your nick i will just take it you're a Trololololol.


Considering your post i will just take it you're an idiot.


i lololol-ed
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
May 06 2010 23:09 GMT
#564
On May 07 2010 07:52 Attica wrote:
Tell me how you stop a planetary fortress now without the old corruption?


SQUISHTRALISKS!

Why not? They say exploding AOE centered on them isn't going to hit any other units nearby, so sounds like a good unit to put up front while you batter it down.
Attica
Profile Joined February 2010
United States277 Posts
May 06 2010 23:10 GMT
#565
At least we know more changes are coming to Ultralisks. I'm hoping for some charge in ability that pushes your units aside and does aoe dmg + goes through forcefields.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
May 06 2010 23:10 GMT
#566
On May 07 2010 08:00 rei wrote:
oh muta baby!!


WHY IS BENNY HILL NOT PLAYING!?

Looks the same to me.
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
May 06 2010 23:11 GMT
#567
So..they nerfed neural parasite because ultralisks were being mind controlled to easily.

wtf?!?!... Am I playing the same game they are?
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
May 06 2010 23:11 GMT
#568
Anyone else been growing an immense dislike for the word 'imbalance' lately?

no
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
May 06 2010 23:11 GMT
#569
On May 07 2010 08:08 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Is it just in my head, or is the Raven slightly faster (maybe just faster acceleration)?

Also, I just played a test game on US servers without battleping, and got WAY better lag than I normally do, like barely noticeable.


what is better lag?

more lag? or better ping?

:D
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
chocoed
Profile Joined June 2007
United States398 Posts
May 06 2010 23:12 GMT
#570
On May 07 2010 08:06 wintergt wrote:
I like a lot of these changes but what?
- crappy thor ability noone uses, now has to be researched?
- seeker missile who noone was using anymore, big nerf.. why?
- ultras gonna be yummy!


Crappy Thor ability? You haven't even seen its potential.
My life for Aiur!
Attica
Profile Joined February 2010
United States277 Posts
May 06 2010 23:13 GMT
#571
On May 07 2010 08:09 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 07:52 Attica wrote:
Tell me how you stop a planetary fortress now without the old corruption?


SQUISHTRALISKS!

Why not? They say exploding AOE centered on them isn't going to hit any other units nearby, so sounds like a good unit to put up front while you batter it down.


Except you're going to have to fight the terran army first and then kill it while it gets repaired. Every suggestion so far has been a tier 3 one. Pretty much sounds like if you miss a small timing window to take it out before it's done upgrading you're screwed in destroying that expo.
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
May 06 2010 23:14 GMT
#572
On May 07 2010 08:11 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 08:08 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Is it just in my head, or is the Raven slightly faster (maybe just faster acceleration)?

Also, I just played a test game on US servers without battleping, and got WAY better lag than I normally do, like barely noticeable.


what is better lag?

more lag? or better ping?

:D


Lower latency when controlling units.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
May 06 2010 23:14 GMT
#573
On May 07 2010 08:03 dangots0ul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 06:08 Zeke50100 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that the new Phoenix actually looks natural when it does it? The thing's a paper-thin air-superiority fighter, piloted by a psionic being. I'd like to think the Protoss figured out how to use their rear-view mirror to pilot >.>

You guys complained about no moving shot and said the lack of it meant you can never overtake an enemy who pre-emptively took air superiority. Now you do. Simple as that.

Oh, and if you can perfectly measure your movements to not get hit, then you would be able to do SC1-style moving shot anyway. Phoenixes DO move faster than Mutas, you know >.> You actually have to think, unlike some people seem to believe (LOLOL 1 APM = INVINCIBLE PHOENIXES, YOU DON'T NEED TO THINK AT ALL!)


In regards to the point of "looking natural". The reason it looks retarded is it complete throws momentem out the window. thats why it looks retaded. its just spinning and adjusting without slwoing down even 1 bit


Am I the only one thinking of this scene when seeing the Phoenix flying backwards?

The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 06 2010 23:14 GMT
#574
On May 07 2010 08:11 Erucious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 08:08 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Is it just in my head, or is the Raven slightly faster (maybe just faster acceleration)?

Also, I just played a test game on US servers without battleping, and got WAY better lag than I normally do, like barely noticeable.


what is better lag?

more lag? or better ping?

:D

Fine - less lag, better ping.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
UnderWorld_Dream
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada219 Posts
May 06 2010 23:15 GMT
#575
On May 07 2010 08:04 chocoed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 08:02 UnderWorld_Dream wrote:
I have the feeling Blizzard has been lurking these forums quite a lot.


And yup that's fact. Blizz has been checking out TL for quite some time.


I knew they were looking but they are also adressing changes. Seems obvious to me that the Pheonix change is sort of response to LaLush's thread.
HeyheyLBJ
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 23:17:43
May 06 2010 23:15 GMT
#576
On May 07 2010 08:11 Erucious wrote:
So..they nerfed neural parasite because ultralisks were being mind controlled to easily.

wtf?!?!... Am I playing the same game they are?


I also don't understand how an upgrade will stop that. It's not like you will have ultras before the upgrade is finished...

edit: Also, if I don't care about my ultras getting parasited can I have the old NP back the way it were plz?
Tribulation
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway86 Posts
May 06 2010 23:16 GMT
#577
Is europe down?
Just reinstalled the beta and have problems connecting to the server when I create games.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 23:19:18
May 06 2010 23:17 GMT
#578
On May 07 2010 08:04 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 07:51 blue.devils wrote:
On May 07 2010 07:45 Pika Chu wrote:
I think the nerf of sentry's damage just made zvp a bit more imba. It's almost impossible now to counter a muta rush without going air or mass stalkers.


Wtf?

You're complaining that you need to actually counter units?

News flash:
If your opponent goes for a particular strategy, that means you need to counter it. So if that means going air or mass stalkers, then do it.

He's complaining that there is now only 1 ground unit that can fight mutas, and that ground unit is pretty mediocre or terrible vs anything the zerg has. with sentries pre-patch at they were useful in the army so you weren't too screwed over.

although from what i see from the phoenix change its now possible to survive with smaller numbers, ala corsair in BW.
[image loading]


What the hell ? Are the phoenixes flying forward while turning/shooting backwards? Maybe they made it a little bit too easy to do the moving shot?

You should be forced to fly TOWARDS the units you want to be able to hit imo
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 06 2010 23:17 GMT
#579
On May 07 2010 08:13 Attica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 08:09 Bibdy wrote:
On May 07 2010 07:52 Attica wrote:
Tell me how you stop a planetary fortress now without the old corruption?


SQUISHTRALISKS!

Why not? They say exploding AOE centered on them isn't going to hit any other units nearby, so sounds like a good unit to put up front while you batter it down.


Except you're going to have to fight the terran army first and then kill it while it gets repaired. Every suggestion so far has been a tier 3 one. Pretty much sounds like if you miss a small timing window to take it out before it's done upgrading you're screwed in destroying that expo.


Banelings, Baneling Drop, Burrowed Roaches (easier to get optimal amount of Roaches in range), Mutas...

It's not like Toss has it much easier >.> Zealots are slow until Charge, Stalkers are pretty good, Sentries are lol, High Templar suck, Dark Templar tech is too costly, Immortals are great, but expensive, Colossi is lol vs buildings...

Really, the Immortal is the only thing that Toss has above Zerg against PFs, and even then, Banelings are much cheaper and more powerful >.>
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 06 2010 23:18 GMT
#580
Ew @ infestor nerf, even though I"m primarily terran. It seems OP against ultras, but still.... storm seems OP in BW.
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