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[quote=|# [user=1]Spartan[nK][/user]|]Yes, folks, fastest money maps are definitely possible on the SC2 engine and through the editor.
First, before we get started, let me say that I personally would not play fastest maps on SC2 because it ruins the core game ideals. Furthermore, the game itself is already incredibly fast-paced; playing normal maps on SC instead of SC2 feels like the stone age all over again.
Second, VG will no doubt continue to support our fastest map league, VGT, with the launch of SC2. We will continue to be at the forefront of that fastest maps community and deliver as much as we can, as long as there is a high demand for the fastest maps and league by players. So expect VGT to bleed over into the SC2 realm upon immediate launch of the game this summer. This, however, means that VGT will no longer be open for SC (again, assuming the SC2 scene is popular).
Anyhow, without further adieu, here are some videos to whet your appetite..
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obv im sure tl feels bad about this, but i wouldnt be surprised if when sc2 launches that already a large chunk of players are starting off on fastest instead of the real maps. this really disappoints me, but really what can we do? today when i log on b.net and look for games on sc1 half the game list is fastest maps any one have ideas on how we can prevent this from happening more frequently??
I don't mind people playing on fastest, personally. It's their choice - as long as they are getting enjoyment out of the game I'm happy with that. As long as they don't take a holier than thou approach to the rest of the world (and visa versa for that matter) then we should be able to live in harmony and celebrate a great game.
On April 26 2010 16:14 Plexa wrote: I don't mind people playing on fastest, personally. It's their choice - as long as they are getting enjoyment out of the game I'm happy with that. As long as they don't take a holier than thou approach to the rest of the world (and visa versa for that matter) then we should be able to live in harmony and celebrate a great game.
I just hate fastest players who insist that it takes just as much, if not more skill than non money maps. Logic doesn't reach them, so don't bother arguing when the time comes people.
I'm not gonna lie, I learned how to speed through production facilities thanks to Fastest, but I always (even before I knew about the pro scene) hated money maps like it. It's just that's what the common player plays. I guess they're fun if I want to dick around, but otherwise, I facepalm when people say it takes as much skill, even though all the macro is gone.
But I doubt you're going to prevent it. I mean, if anything, it would be reduced if the Korean pro scene was more apparent to all of Bnet users, but even then, it will probably always exist because there will be that player who hates economy in their RTS, even a game built around it.
Just be glad it won't be in the ladder (hopefully). Although, it would be funny if they had a high-money ladder.
Yeah I don't mind fast map but players who refuse to see the skill in pro maps (irony?) and insist they're playing the better part of StarCraft really shit me
i started sc1 with fastmaps and it was good to learn how units work against each other and which building builds which unit and hotkeys etc. all in all it needs very to no skill, but with the storm nerf it could be funny to play drunken on that map.
On April 26 2010 16:14 Plexa wrote: I don't mind people playing on fastest, personally. It's their choice - as long as they are getting enjoyment out of the game I'm happy with that. As long as they don't take a holier than thou approach to the rest of the world (and visa versa for that matter) then we should be able to live in harmony and celebrate a great game.
i hate fastest maps because it takes away players who might otherwise become good non-money map players if they didnt join the world of fastest. of course, some people might not play at all if it werent for fastest and there are probably plenty of sc players in the world already (but never enough).
it's just hard to get a decent game going because some people (RL folks, esp in a dorm) only play fastest and i have to go through a lot of trouble just to teach them to try non-money maps. in the end, they give up and go back to their world of fastest, and we lose out on a nice LAN competition
I tried a fastest map in the map editor just the get the feel of how fast it feels in sc2 and let me just say zerg feels like they are going to be waaay overpowered. Like to the point where the other races will not have a chance after the 6 minute mark.
On April 26 2010 16:28 kidcrash wrote: I tried a fastest map in the map editor just the get the feel of how fast it feels in sc2 and let me just say zerg feels like they are going to be waaay overpowered. Like to the point where the other races will not have a chance after the 6 minute mark.
On April 26 2010 16:19 RageOverdose wrote: I'm not gonna lie, I learned how to speed through production facilities thanks to Fastest, but I always (even before I knew about the pro scene) hated money maps like it. It's just that's what the common player plays. I guess they're fun if I want to dick around, but otherwise, I facepalm when people say it takes as much skill, even though all the macro is gone.
But I doubt you're going to prevent it. I mean, if anything, it would be reduced if the Korean pro scene was more apparent to all of Bnet users, but even then, it will probably always exist because there will be that player who hates economy in their RTS, even a game built around it.
Just be glad it won't be in the ladder (hopefully). Although, it would be funny if they had a high-money ladder.
You are so right, I hate when those plebs try and play my game the wrong way. Why don't they understand that they are doing it wrong? They should ban people from playing this game that aren't atleast B on iccup, I am so sick of these commoners crashing my beta server.
On April 26 2010 16:19 RageOverdose wrote: I'm not gonna lie, I learned how to speed through production facilities thanks to Fastest, but I always (even before I knew about the pro scene) hated money maps like it. It's just that's what the common player plays. I guess they're fun if I want to dick around, but otherwise, I facepalm when people say it takes as much skill, even though all the macro is gone.
But I doubt you're going to prevent it. I mean, if anything, it would be reduced if the Korean pro scene was more apparent to all of Bnet users, but even then, it will probably always exist because there will be that player who hates economy in their RTS, even a game built around it.
Just be glad it won't be in the ladder (hopefully). Although, it would be funny if they had a high-money ladder.
You are so right, I hate when those plebs try and play my game the wrong way. Why don't they understand that they are doing it wrong? They should ban people from playing this game that aren't atleast B on iccup, I am so sick of these commoners crashing my beta server.
On April 26 2010 16:19 RageOverdose wrote: I'm not gonna lie, I learned how to speed through production facilities thanks to Fastest, but I always (even before I knew about the pro scene) hated money maps like it. It's just that's what the common player plays. I guess they're fun if I want to dick around, but otherwise, I facepalm when people say it takes as much skill, even though all the macro is gone.
But I doubt you're going to prevent it. I mean, if anything, it would be reduced if the Korean pro scene was more apparent to all of Bnet users, but even then, it will probably always exist because there will be that player who hates economy in their RTS, even a game built around it.
Just be glad it won't be in the ladder (hopefully). Although, it would be funny if they had a high-money ladder.
You are so right, I hate when those plebs try and play my game the wrong way. Why don't they understand that they are doing it wrong? They should ban people from playing this game that aren't atleast B on iccup, I am so sick of these commoners crashing my beta server.
Did I really come off as an elitist prick?
I didn't mean to. I just wanted to get across that I disliked Fastest, thought that it was ridiculous to compare it's skill to professional level of play, and that it's what you'll find the most on Bnet and there's nothing really wrong with that and that's how it's going to be.
And I do think it would be funny if there was a high-money ladder, because the games would be ridiculous. Plus, Fastest wasn't suited for balanced competition, which is how I view the ladder.
Although I guarantee you I'll at least give Fastest a shot in SC2.
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any one have ideas on how we can prevent this from happening more frequently??
