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On April 26 2010 16:14 Plexa wrote:
I don't mind people playing on fastest, personally. It's their choice - as long as they are getting enjoyment out of the game I'm happy with that. As long as they don't take a holier than thou approach to the rest of the world (and visa versa for that matter) then we should be able to live in harmony and celebrate a great game.
It's also at times a great tool to work on your macro and multitasking skills.
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I personally preffer BGH over Fastest.
A couple of games of fastest will ruin your feel for melee, atleast it does for me :p
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LOL!!
I know that for Pros, maybe FMP (Fastest Map Possible) isn't the greatest thing to ever happen to Starcraft.
But for people like me, it .. is... AWESOME.
- No need to worry about crazy, unpredictable maps
- No need to worry about mining.
- No need to worry about expanding.
Just head on mash ups of massive armies (YES NR 15 is SICK).
Hm.
I seem to remember another map... I THINK it was Zero Clutter? 3v3 Zero Clutter games were the most EPIC!! (It's the map divided in half for awesome 3v3 play, with a narrow choke in the middle?)
Gawd I love Starcraft.
And I'll love whoever remakes Zero Clutter for SC2. I will create a shrine in my home in honor of that person - for whoever remakes the sickest 3v3 map of all timeeee!!
... I know I'm not the only one who liked playing these maps... right? =D
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On April 26 2010 18:42 RageOverdose wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2010 17:32 Fizban140 wrote:On April 26 2010 16:19 RageOverdose wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, I learned how to speed through production facilities thanks to Fastest, but I always (even before I knew about the pro scene) hated money maps like it. It's just that's what the common player plays. I guess they're fun if I want to dick around, but otherwise, I facepalm when people say it takes as much skill, even though all the macro is gone.
But I doubt you're going to prevent it. I mean, if anything, it would be reduced if the Korean pro scene was more apparent to all of Bnet users, but even then, it will probably always exist because there will be that player who hates economy in their RTS, even a game built around it.
Just be glad it won't be in the ladder (hopefully). Although, it would be funny if they had a high-money ladder. You are so right, I hate when those plebs try and play my game the wrong way. Why don't they understand that they are doing it wrong? They should ban people from playing this game that aren't atleast B on iccup, I am so sick of these commoners crashing my beta server. Did I really come off as an elitist prick? I didn't mean to. I just wanted to get across that I disliked Fastest, thought that it was ridiculous to compare it's skill to professional level of play, and that it's what you'll find the most on Bnet and there's nothing really wrong with that and that's how it's going to be. And I do think it would be funny if there was a high-money ladder, because the games would be ridiculous. Plus, Fastest wasn't suited for balanced competition, which is how I view the ladder. Although I guarantee you I'll at least give Fastest a shot in SC2.
No hard feelings, I hate people who only play on fast money maps and refuse to try anything else. I just thought it was kind of funny how you said it.
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I think fastest maps won´t be as much of a "problem" in SC2, because of Galaxy. There will be a mountain of awesome mods for the faint-hearted, offering easier ways to crack open the shell and overindulge the sweet fruits that are dangling from the SC2 tree.
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On April 26 2010 18:47 mynameisbean wrote:
LOL!!
I know that for Pros, maybe FMP (Fastest Map Possible) isn't the greatest thing to ever happen to Starcraft.
But for people like me, it .. is... AWESOME.
- No need to worry about crazy, unpredictable maps
- No need to worry about mining.
- No need to worry about expanding.
Just head on mash ups of massive armies (YES NR 15 is SICK).
Hm.
I seem to remember another map... I THINK it was Zero Clutter? 3v3 Zero Clutter games were the most EPIC!! (It's the map divided in half for awesome 3v3 play, with a narrow choke in the middle?)
Gawd I love Starcraft.
And I'll love whoever remakes Zero Clutter for SC2. I will create a shrine in my home in honor of that person - for whoever remakes the sickest 3v3 map of all timeeee!!
... I know I'm not the only one who liked playing these maps... right? =D
im with you man, im with you 
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Casual, non-competitive player can do as they like. I'm sure there will a huge custom game crowd for SC2 given everything it has to offer.
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This is why i'm glad you probably won't be able to ladder with fastest maps as an option
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Glad to see that the fastest people can also transfer into sc2 as well. Im not personally a big fan of fastest maps, but even when playing bw somewhat seriously (not very) I still enjoyed a good 3v3 bgh, so I hope that we get something like that going in sc2 as well, eventhough protoss with maaaasss forcefield can be hard to overcome 
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meh, i dont really care. they wont be rated, so let the casuals have their fun, right?
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hey guys.
i saw your videos and well.. i thought to join this thread with my map.
http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/fasstest-map-possible/
i made this map yesterday. i think its perfect (dont wanna sound insane^^).
100% symmetric 100% fast money income, everyone got the same buildspace and there are no bugs like these hq boundry problem or performance issues due to massive mineral stones (if you proceeded with createing a real fasstest map, with 8x50 minerals you know what im talking about.)
feedback please!
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@howlighH not to try to derail this thread but it looks way too tight. Money maps have huge armies battling it out.
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infinite money = no need for expansions = turtle = boring games
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I think the main problem with fastest in sc2 is going to be mules, being that they can mine over scvs. Terran will be pretty friggen strong due to that.
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i know what money maps have or need.
okay probably removing 3 of the xel naga towers in the middle to get some space - but everything else and the whole mapsize is okay.
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fastest maps were kinda fun... not very competitive - but fun having a war of 100 mutalisks vs 100 dragoons etc
i dont think mules will make a difference, as it's pretty impossible to keep your minerals down unless you've got about 40 hatchery's.
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But but but, think of all the free wins we could get if these guys played normal maps!!!
D:
Whatever, as long as they have fun, i don't mind. They have their own silly sub community.
...Are BGH maps out yet?
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On April 26 2010 17:00 shindigs wrote:
Admit it, the real glory days of SC for us were NR 20 MIN FASTEST MAP EVARRRRRRRR
Fastest map didnt exist when I was into NR20.
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Combat-EX will indeed find his place in SC2 as well.
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i think terran's gonna be WAY imba on fastest...
mules o.o
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