Unbelievable that half the people voted that this was a bad idea, especially after that huge MBS/automine ordeal you put this site's readership through. I'm getting the sneaking suspicion people are complaining just for the sake of complaining...

tyir

Canada15 Posts

April 24 2010 00:57 GMT

#43

On April 24 2010 09:50 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
I think this is a fair change. Terrans had to cast mule on minerals and that requires moving view back to base. Making P and Z do the same things keeps things even.

Again, how can you compare the macro mechanic from other races. They are all different! The terran mechanic allows you to spam mules if you have excess energy. To keep things "even", shouldn't the queen be allowed that?

I'm obviously not seriously proposing that, I like that the macro mechanics are all different. They shouldn't all be the exact same thing.

chocoed

United States398 Posts

April 24 2010 00:59 GMT

#44

At first I thought it was a bug, but this changes everything. I guess I'm a bit disappointed that it's intended, but it does make for some more BW-like mechanics. Gradually I'll accept it.

LaNague

Germany9118 Posts

April 24 2010 01:02 GMT

#45

as said, terrans can spend the energy all at once and also, they only need to go to 1 mineral patch while zerg has to be all over the map, which takes more time.

I dont like it, but i can certainly live with it.

daywiss

United States83 Posts

April 24 2010 01:05 GMT

#46

personally hate this change, more on principle than anything else. and i do forsee blizzard removing casting SL from minimap, probably an oversight on their part.

its the old argument of "introduce better mechanics" vs "artificially limit interface".

Kletus

Canada580 Posts

April 24 2010 01:06 GMT

#47

I've always gone to my base as zerg, it isn't that hard...crybabies

j4vz

Canada976 Posts

April 24 2010 01:06 GMT

#48

honestly as protoss i dont mind going back to my base to chronoboost.
binding all buildings on a key was boring.

PanzerDragoon

United States822 Posts

April 24 2010 01:07 GMT

#49

I think its dumb that you can't do it with units. I understand for the macro mechanics, but there is no reason i should be unable to use the wireframe to pick up units with a drop ship, or repair with SCVs.

Duckvillelol

Australia1259 Posts

April 24 2010 01:09 GMT

#50

On April 24 2010 09:28 Tropics wrote:
Kinda silly. I find it especially silly with chrono boost in the case of warp gates. If they had an animation so that I knew which ones were charged and which weren't it'd be ok, but its kind of annoying having this functionality, adjusting to it, then having it taken away from you.

What do you mean exactly? There is an animation on buildings being chrono'd :S

Jonoman92

United States9110 Posts

April 24 2010 01:10 GMT

#51

lol funny how poll is currently about 1/3 vs 2/3

Z players vs the others

dthree

Australia150 Posts

April 24 2010 01:11 GMT

#52

I like this change as a zerg player as well, gives us something extra to do and adds to difficulty. Another way to separate yourself from another player, how can that be bad? Mechanics are still tremendously easier than in BW

NewBKaeK

Canada57 Posts

April 24 2010 01:11 GMT

#53

On April 24 2010 09:37 Chaoz wrote:
As Protoss it's not that bad. But it absolutely sucks for Zerg.

Not really. I've actually never used it because I find it better to go back to my main to spawn the larvae anyways. It gives me a chance to check all my other buildings and upgrades while I'm at it.

EZjijy

United States1039 Posts

April 24 2010 01:12 GMT

#54

It's funny back when MBS and automine was announced and everyone was like OMG SC2 = NO MACRO. Now its like Bliizard: More Macro! and people say no?

SilentCrono

United States1420 Posts

April 24 2010 01:14 GMT

#55

this is stupid. idk why they would do this. it doesn't change anything. it will just annoy people.

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21247 Posts

April 24 2010 01:16 GMT

#56

Such bullshit -.-

ccou

United States681 Posts

April 24 2010 01:16 GMT

#57

On April 24 2010 10:10 Jonoman92 wrote:
lol funny how poll is currently about 1/3 vs 2/3

Z players vs the others

I play all 3 races and it's not too difficult to spawn larvae using either each queen to a hotkey AND/OR using the backspace trick. Spawning being V took a little getting used to, but it's fine. Queens are normally right there.

Personally, this affects my protoss game more. It's harder to chrono boost stuff instead because you have to find it around your base. I normally have my forges and warpgates on the same hotkey as my nexus.

Senx

Sweden5901 Posts

April 24 2010 01:17 GMT

#58

On April 24 2010 10:12 Repok wrote:
It's funny back when MBS and automine was announced and everyone was like OMG SC2 = NO MACRO. Now its like Bliizard: More Macro! and people say no?

Take note that all the naysayers are the new members here at TL.net, a big majority of them are casual players and wants the game to be easy, fun and modern before anything, they don't really care about the big picture (SC2 as a viable esport).

These guys were not really present in the same extent before the beta hit so that makes the overall opinions a bit skewed.

Zack1900

United States211 Posts

April 24 2010 01:20 GMT

#59

I liked the old way better. At least you can still use the minimap for larva or have all of the Nexi on one hot key to cast chrono. ( I play random)

Terran may have to do more for their macro, but they do it half as often. Just my two cents.

Bear4188

United States1797 Posts

April 24 2010 01:21 GMT

#60

I agree with this move. I have terrible APM/Macro/Skillz and even I could keep up with 4 queens no problem. At least now I need to jump back to my base.